Posting the standard every day

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  1. Ms.Holyoke

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    Is anyone else required to post the standard on the board every day? (ex. 6.NS.2: multiply decimals using the traditional algorithm.) This is in addition to the essential question, objective, hw, agenda which are also required. I have to figure out how to fit it on my board!
     
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    Yup! Laminated poster boards work well. What I did with mine was my husband took a piece of metal and salacked a poster with writing on it. Then I took cuts of poster board with magnets on the back. Just slap it up.
     
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    I had to do this at previous schools but not at my current school. I hated doing it.
     
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    We have done this for so many years that I don’t pay much attention anymore.

    The standard (student friendly) is integrated into the daily statement. (Today I am . . . so that I can . . . . I’ll know I’ve got it when . . . . )

    I have a small whiteboard for the weekly agenda, a bigger whiteboard for the statement, and the questions and work are on the Smartboard as part of the instruction. I use my Cricut to cut adhesive vinyl for the parts that stay all the time, and then I just write in the other parts with dry erase marker.
     
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    What did your DH do with the metal, exactly? I love magnetic stuff, and my DH is handy. I may put him to work.
     
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    I feel like that is similar to my objective! (Ex. Today I will...) I understand that but I don't see why I need the standard in non-student friendly language in addition to the objective!
     
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    We used to have to do that. Admin actually made very large posters with all the standards for my grade/subject. We just checked off when we did them so that if they came in they could "see" that we actually were teaching to standards. Glad when that ended. I have very little wall space.
     
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    We are supposed to, yes. I section off a section of my whiteboard for it.

    I think posting it itself doesn't necessarily drive any significantly more positive growth, but those who utilize it (refer to it at the beginning of the lesson, and either throughout or again at the end to ensure that they're focused around what they're aiming for) can lead to better growth.
     
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    That's actually the POINT of posting it! You're supposed to teach to the objectives and refer back to it otherwise it's pointless. I've been in rooms where they've posted them, but it's obvious that they were outdated and never referred to during instruction. We were always told that during a walk through ANY admin should be able to question the students regarding the objectives and be told by them what they are learning and doing. It keeps instruction focused and on - track. It's actually very helpful especially for new teachers who may get "lost'' or side- tracked often.
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    Definitely the point...but I would not be surprised at all to see a majority of classrooms not refer to it much! I even forget at times, even though I try to be completely on top of the "I can" statements!
     
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    You could assign a student to be responsible for either reading the "I can '' statements (or reminding you to) depending on the age of the kids. It can be a job. That way you'll have a constant reminder, "Hey, Mr./Mrs... we forgot to read the I can statements.''
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    Yes. We have done this for years. I list that standard number, but I can paraphrase the actual standard.
     
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    Yeah, we have to have them posted, and I had to fight to be allowed to put them in student friendly "I can" form and this year suddenly they want every teacher to write them that way, but we have to cite which standard it is. It seems that my district finds some new way to "improve instruction" every year and they seem to believe that every teacher should be cookie cutter exact to their peers...it's really getting me bitter. On the other hand, most of my students are able to roll with all of it. I'm sure I have said this before, but I really wish the district would just leave us alone, and allow us to teach! I love the idea of having a student in charge of reviewing the standard and then maybe we check post lesson to make sure we met our objective. Not an assessment, just a verbal check in, open discussion style.
     
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    Yes, I am required to post the daily standards in my lesson plans and in the lecture notes. It doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. My notes are pre-written (I’ve used the same notes since I started teaching) and they preface the start of every lesson. I also include the objective for each lesson along with the corresponding standard.
     
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    Shellac? I was wondering too!
     
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    Seems like an absolute waste of time. We put the standards in the curriculum when we designed the curriculum years ago. We don't write anything like that on the board---standards, objectives, etc. There are more important things to worry about. Save the board space for.....teaching.
     
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    I’ve been in a school like that too. My current school’s curriculum is primarily inquiry based. My problem with posting objectives and I Can statements is that it tells the students what they are learning before they have an opportunity to discover it on their own. Depending on the philosophy and curriculum, posting objectives can be beneficial but I don’t think it fits in well with Inquiry-based learning.
     
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    We have to post learning targets and success criteria but no standard. In a previous school we had to post standards and it did seem like a huge waste of time. I do refer to the learning targets and success criteria throughout my teaching, but there is no need for a primary aged student to learn the wording of the official standard.

    Is it just something that's required to be posted, or are they going to be asking kids to recite it in walkthroughs? If it's just required to be posted, one thing I've done is to hang up a plastic sheet protector. Then I type or write the standards for the day on plain white paper and put them in the sheet protector in the order I'll be needing them in. After each lesson is done, I simply take the top page out and then the next standard is there ready to go. You'll be in compliance and it doesn't take up much space.
     
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    Ooohhhh . . . that makes sense. My brain wasn't in translation mode. It was earlier than I'm usually up.
     
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    Okay so here's what we did. So firstly I got a piece of poster board from Walmart for the background and hubby grabbed a piece of scrap metal. Sheet metal maybe? I dunno it's not very thick though but magnets sick to it. So then he glued the background poster board to the metal sheet. I used a blue background because that's my favorite color. Then I took strips of poster board and wrote the titles down with a marker. I made mine all fancy with some calligraphy but you can do it however.

    So then he glued the titles down to the poster board (which is of course attached to the metal sheet). Then hubby put a clear varnish/shellaced the whole board. It gives it a nice laminated look and protects the poster board and everything. He made a wood frame for it to put around it both for asthethic and safety – the metal was a little sharp. Then I just took more strips of poster board to make the different objectives, dates, etc etc. Laminated them, hot glued some magnet strips on the back.

    And tadah! Pretty easy weekend project with minimum material. My hubby is pretty handy dandy like that he does wood working and stuff like that so he already had the wood for the frame. It's not massively huge, but it's big enough I can put up all three classes at once. Then I only have to change it once per day.
     
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    And I didn't know exactly how to spell it so I just kinda guessed.
     
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    We bought sheet metal at Lowes for a bulletin board in the home office. We just used it plain, but I like the idea of making it fancy. We are both pretty handy, but he is better with power tools. I'll have to see where I could use a board in my room. I'd love to have a magnetic poetry station for my class.
     
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    I'm trying to find a place for this as well.
     
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    I'm glad I've inspired you!
     
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    It seems like it is "highly suggested" to post standards and everyone does it. I like the sheet protector idea. I could just hang it to the side of the board.
     
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    That's what I was thinking as well. I like to use inquiry-based lessons as well so it's sometimes hard to come up with an objective that fits.
     
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    For ELA teachers, don't you think we teach several standards per class? What do you post?
     
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    I post only the one being assessed that day.
     
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    It actually is not a waste of time as some students need to know the purpose of the day’s lesson and what they will be doing. It helps certain students more than others.

    http://www.multibriefs.com/briefs/exclusive/learning_objectives_targets_goals.html#.W4yJ9BZlCaM

    http://www.ucdenver.edu/faculty_sta...uments/tutorials/Assessment/module3/index.htm

    http://www.achievementstrategies.org/1originalSite/math/PostingandStatingObjectives.doc

    https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED496125.pdf
     
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    I'm sure you can find lovely articles that support writing it on the board, but all I know is I'm happy my district doesn't require it. Heck, if I did everything that the research said teachers should do, then I'd have to live in the school. Singing during class probably helps some students more than others, but I'm not going to start doing it. Let's be honest. My students are just fine (better than fine!) without seeing that written on the board. Absolutely I will explain (verbally) what we are going to be learning at the start of the lesson, but my board space is precious, and so is my time, and the ten minutes I spend formulating that (and then erasing it and re-writing it if it's too sloppy because I couldn't stand to look at something sloppy all day) would be better spent helping a student or coming up with a fun brain break or perfecting my day's lesson.
     
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    We are required. I reference them in every class period. I have printed the objectives on card stock. I do them 2 weeks at a time, so I don't have to print daily. Then I use magnets to adhere them to the white board. This way it is in the same print every day, I'm assured they fit in the space and I can reuse them in the coming years. :)
     
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    The only reason I bother is because we're required. Someone a higher pay grade than myself thinks it is a helpful tool.
     
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    The only reason I bother is because we're required. Someone a higher pay grade than myself thinks it is a helpful tool.
     
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    I’m not saying that we should we institute every little thing that the research suggests, but don’t discount some things because it requires you to do a little more work. (As an aside, I have six 8-foot whiteboards in my classroom, one of which is a coordinate grid for graphing, along with the newer model of Smart Board. How many whiteboards do you have?)

    Moreover, I include all of the objectives and standards at the start of all my lecture notes (which are printed and handed out to students at the start of each unit) and I read them off at the start of class. I don’t have to write them down as the students already have access to them. Students also have access to my lesson plans on the course Moodle page and they frequently reference the daily objectives so they know what the heck it is that we are doing. It is especially helpful for students who are are absent because they can see what they are doing on a daily basis and what they should be learning and mastering specifically, not generally.
     
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    I have one whiteboard, and it's plenty. But I don't need to fill it with nonsense. Stop making it sound like I'm not doing it because I don't want to do a little extra work. I'm not doing it because it's not an effective use of my time, and pretty much everyone in my department/school would agree. I can do other little things that will actually help my students instead.If a student is absent, they email me for the course notes. Easy game. I know you think everything your private school does is perfect, but to me this is an extreme example of micromanaging, and an example of a school not trusting the teachers to teach what they should be teaching. Some administrator heard about it at a workshop and decided it'd be cool to force upon teachers. Not down with that.

    BTW: Moodle? What is this 2012 lol? Our district did away with that a while ago as it was deemed to be too dated to continue using. Have you considered using Google Classroom instead?
     
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    I used Moodle...when I was a classroom teacher over 6 years ago! LOL!

    Nowadays, everyone in my district uses Google Classroom.
     
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    My principal and I don’t like to see the actual standard. We do, however, like “I Can” statements. Keep in mind, though, that we’re elementary.

    I believe most of our middle and high school teachers prefer seeing the objective instead of the standard.
     
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    Some teachers use Google Classroom, but it’s up to the teacher. We just bought an updated server and we have the most recent edition of Moodle. It’s exactly quite nifty. I especially like the feature where you can make custom problem sets for each student by entering a single formula. It’s a great formative assessment tool.

    And you only have one whiteboard?! Pfft. That’s poo-poo. I frequently walk about the classroom and *need* to help students individually because we frequently do investigative tasks and collaborative work.

    And what am I supposed to think? I frequently hear teachers such as yourself (E.g., an “extreme case of micromanaging.” Really?) gripe about having to do tasks that take a few seconds or less than a minute to do. I do all those tasks without a forethought and have no qualms doing more if need be.
     
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    Students don’t have to email for the notes because I uploaded them to the class resource page. That seems more efficient than emailing them to each absent student. Said students can download them whenever they want.
     
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    We all have our preferences. I personally don’t like Google Classroom and prefer the updated version of Moodle. It has better features for math classes, IMO.

    Other teachers at my school use Google Classroom. I don’t and that’s okay.

    I really don’t know why that’s so humorous. And I would almost guarantee you that my school has more recent and better technologies than most public schools. Should I laugh at how old and delapidated the books, chairs, and facilities are and look, plus else, at various public schools?
     
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