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  1. smalltowngal

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    or Cheez-its?
     
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    a little inspiration for those who need it...

    I came across this verse and thought about all of us on this thread so I thought I would share it with you guys. I hope it helps...

    And we can be confident that He will listen to us whenever we ask him for anything in line with His will. And if we know He is listening when we make our requests, we can be sure that He will give us what we ask for.

    1 John 5:14-15
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    or lunchables-i LOVE them..

    you guys are so0o0o0 funny. i lost my voice. wrote instructions on the board for the kids to follow, told them if i had to use what i had of my voice to speak to them they'd get written up, some didn't learn. oh well.

    i think tomorrow should be the beginning of the rest of my life. i'm tired of being the "cool" teacher. i find it insulting that when another teacher (well depends on who it is) walks in the room or comes to either evaluate or give some sort of assistance and they're DEAD SILENT during classwork. where i have to tell them keep it down-silence doesn't seem to be an option. i mean, i know some classrooms (teachers) don't mind the dull roar if maybe you're helping your neighbor understand something that wasn't all that clear and i'm busy with someone else, but come on.. i mean, it's damaging to my sensitive spirit over here.

    i know, you're gonna fuss @ me for not being the mean teacher in the first place and for even compromising silence for a little chatter or what have you. but i've never been the SHUTUP AND DO YOUR WORK teacher. perhaps that's y i don't feel very confident of it. :(

    i know, you guys have bigger fish to fry, but i just wanted to vent. thanks for listening..
     
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    why is it so easy?

    to yell @ & be strict with my niece who's 2, and the things i tell her i THINK she knows & understands so i say "didn't i ask you to stop?" "didn't i ask you to go in the other room?" "didn't i tell you to wait?"

    AND YET

    so HARD to yell @ or be strict with my students, who definitely know better. who know better (well maybe) than to give lip to an adult. who know they SHOULD respect adults and listen to instructions given. why is it so hard to be strict with them and easy to be so lenient? and why is it so easy to not bend or be understanding with my niece?

    i want to implement a no-yelling or fussing policy in my life. i THOUGHT i had patience- me being a teacher & all. i am able to put up with some of the antics and deal with SOME of the questions and confused looks and the time after time after time after time of review i may have to give. what i don't think i have is real true genuine patience. maybe i should quit. i actually had a student say that to me last year-maybe you just shouldn't be a teacher ms. bailey.

    OUCH! Yea, that was when i decided i DID NOT want HSers anymore. UUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH and here i am, again.
     
  5. Master Pre-K

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    No! and since we are here! some schools can't even serve Jello and have Santa come visit anymore because some folks don't want to eat pork and celebrate 'other' holidays!

    Yet, I was born and raised here in the good old US of A, and I am questioned about getting a lousy job? I tell you, I am more upset about this racial issue than I am about getting a late check! You know I'm still waiting on the 2nd check.
     
  6. Master Pre-K

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    yeah, that's what I said....ask not, get not :rolleyes:

    edited to add: I took two bags of can goods to my girl who does my hair. she has 4 kids, and her boyfriend has one too! When you've been blessed, pass it on.
     
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    yeah you got it coming..and I first gotta tell you that you should not be losing your voice in Oct. that is an April thing! where is your water bottle missy?? cough drops, cholraseptic spray...and a six pack of pepsi. you will have no voice at all...and that is not cool for a teacher. you think they are runing over you now...what can you do without a voice, hold up a sign???

    don't smile until january! yes..it is a direct insult when another teacher makes your class quieter than you can. grrrr...I hate it when other people fuss at my kids in the hall. why not go fuss at my daughter while you're at it?! It's about respect msT...yours, theirs and those wannabe people taking over your room!

    sorry! I guess you guys can tell, I am a little more than po'd tonight!
    I should not be running around from church to church getting bags of can goods. this is starting to really tick me off. I even went to the office of some of these church schools, and they flat out told me, "we don't hire other people, we use our families."

    other people? :confused:

    and...you don't have to say shut up...just say:

    why do I hear talking?
    pipe down
    knock it off
    that's enough
    alright
    I guess you don't want __________
    Who needs to spend their lunch with me?!
    Who's parent do I need to call.
    Where is my cell phone, I need to call some parents.
    I must be in the wrong room, because I KNOW this is not my class doing all this talking!
     
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    i do the knock it off, alright, and that's enough bit. get back to work, get back on task, keep working, more writing less talking. but GOD!!

    HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO KEEP SAYING IT BEFORE THEY JUST DO IT!!?!??!?!!!

    NEVER? :(
     
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    How many times? ONE! And stick to it. And say, "I said that one time too many."

    and don't giggle, frown, or change your mind! (practice in a mirror) if you crack, they will never take you seriously.

    if you can do it with a two year old, you can do it with a 14 year old.

    you know..mentally, they are the same!

    broken record routine....you know...GO TO BED just change that to DO YOUR WORK...two times, then move on. and cross your arms. and don't budge.

    this is your job, and you won't let them take it from you! think of biscuits being snatched off your plate!!!

    no crumb snatchers and biscuit eaters around on your shift!
     
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    mstemple, go in there tomorrow and tell them that up until now, you have allowed them to talk because you respected them enough to give them that freedom...to talk when they were working, BUT if they are going to talk while you are talking/talking too loud during assignment that that is unacceptable and shows a lack of respect..and if they are not going to respect you then they will not be allowed to talk...those who choose to do so will have lunch detention, write up to the office, call to the parent, whatever you have.

    MPK, you need yourself some good ole chocolate!! I'm sure the hairstylist appreciated the kind gesture. You'll be blessed. Not sure when or with what, but that's not us to figure out.
     
  11. Master Pre-K

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    thanks smalltowngal...

    and since I have a 24 CVS drug store up the street from my new condo...I think I'll go take a walk in my new neighborhood, and get a Reeces Cup!!

    then...sigh...back to unpacking! I still have stuff in my car!

    night everyone!!!
     
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    good night!!

    and when did i miss you talking about the hairdresser? when did you go?

    i'm getting confused writing back and forth on 2 diff threads. i think i'm calling out tomorrow- i don't have a voice and i think the "break" will make an impression on the students.

    and THANK YOU SMALLTOWNGAL- i LOVE what you just said. i will go in on friday and tell them exactly that. that up until now i considered them to be old enough to handle the mutual respect thing and handle their own assignments and such. but up until now they've taken advantage and they need more boundaries and limits now. they've proven they can't handle it. i LOVE it!! where would i have been without you? this is what i was trying to come up with. a way to segue into me not yelling and them doing as they're told.
     
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    That's what I'm here for mstemple! Anytime!!

    MPK, I would offer to help to if I lived closer to you. I hope that you can get everything settled soon!! I HATE moving!!
     
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    my niece is a great cleaner! (when i get her in that zone)

    she could definitely help you-once she stopped climbing in and out of the boxes.

    DANG IT!! i FORGOT what i was going to say just now!! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
     
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    Another job posted, another 2 weeks of waiting, emailing, waiting, calling, emailing...and what do I get? NOTHING...NOT A DANG THING!!! no interview, no nothing, and they fill the position w/o interviewing EVERYONE that turned in an app. I'M REALLY PO'D :mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
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    that is SOOOOOOOOOOOO not cool. i'd call the school and ask to speak to the principal and then ask him about the position. play dumb. they don't know you've seen that they've filled the position. then they HAVE to tell you what they did.

    i don't know.. just a suggestion. :/
     
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    I don't think calling the principal would do any good. He doesn't seem to respond back to messages left or anything. Hubby thought they might have restructured and moved people around inside the school so they wouldn't have to pay another full time teacher. It's just very frustrating...No calls for subbing, no jobs on the horizon, and all I can do right now is volunteer to be a mentor.
     
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    it will get better for you,
    i PROMISE. i know it will. as encouraging & helpful as you have been-God is going to bless you. you are so0o0o0o sweet despite your situation. not that everyone else is just mean and spiteful, but you get what i'm saying. like, everyone usually offers some form of encouragement and listens and maybe even provides advice but you're ALWAYS so sweet about it-even when you're fussing & frustrated. ;)

    God bless you!
     
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    mstemple, I'm glad that you started this thread. I was really upset last night, but yet I still prayed. This morning I woke up with a peacefulness inside, not that I'm still not upset because I am, but I know there is something else in store for me. Its just hard because when I pray for others, like my dad, my prayers seem to be answered, but when I pray for myself, I don't see any results..I know its because its not in His will for me at the time, but being human, that's the way I think.

    I know others on this board would disagree with you on my being sweet part, even if I'm just trying to help. :)
     
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    Really? I can't imagine you being anything other than sweet. But i so get what you mean about not seeing your own prayer requests granted but others' getting their needs/wants fulfilled.

    A girlfriend of mine (the one on the prayer request thread who just took the bar & is getting married next year) is just now getting to that point where i was when i finally received my blessing. So as i told her, i'll tell you..

    Maybe there's something you're holding on to, or maybe you just shouldn't be worried for anything or maybe you should just be glad that all that's taken place over the course of your journey was just you worrying. Like, she ALWAYS tries to make it seem so much worse than it is by telling me the things she fears are ABOUT to get turned off or the ways in which her credit may be screwed. Which don't get me wrong, are definitely bad things. However, nothing of hers has been turned off yet, she manages to eat everyday, and while her credit may suffer some, it's not completely down the drain.

    She did the same for me when i was stressing. And to be honest, it may seem selfish, but i felt i had more of a reason to stress than she did. While she has more out in student loans than i do and she helps pay the mortgage (for the duplex she & her brother own) and she pays cell phone, cable, home phone bill.. but i felt like i had rent, car insurance, cable/internet/phone & a KID!! But either way, she said to me one day, God worked things out for you, and what happened in the meantime? You worried. That's all.

    So, i needed to tell her the same and i'm telling you. No need to worry. Of course easier said than done, but as you said & probably know-God has a purpose and plan. a STRATEGIC one that when everything happens you will sit back and say and know "that HAD to be God.." The only thing that changes is you worry. But it doesn't make a job nor does it make you some $. And it's not like you're sitting there doing nothing. You're @ least LOOKING for jobs..

    I know GREAT things are in store for you. Somewhere in the psalms (i believe) it says "delight thyself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart."
     
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    And it's not like I was trying to be mean in the thread. I was giving an honest opinion. Its in the Behavior thread under "what do they do when you can't see" or something like that if you wanna go check it out. Maybe seeing it with someone else's eyes will tell me if I was rude or not. Anyway, I try not to worry. But its human nature to worry about things that you can't control. I'm no where NEAR what you went through and MPK is going through. I have a hubby that makes good money (enough that I'm not rushing to come up with extra cash) and we can still pay our bills every month. I just know that I would rather be teaching than staying at home. I know some working moms would LOVE this opportunity and though I enjoy it, I miss being in the classroom every day. I continue to praise God in the work that He's done in my life and in the life of people that really needed the prayers.
    Thanks, mstemple, not sure what I would do w/o your words of encouragement! :hugs:
     
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    mstemple, I am trying to listen to your advice too. It is so hard when you think you have done everything you can and nothing works out. I feel like the Lord has taught me a lot in the situation I am in, but I am tired of waiting and being unsure of what He wants me to do next. I am learning to trust. smalltowngirl and all the others out there, maybe someday we will understand why things had to be so hard for us.
     
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    smalltown... i have noticed that you have been "yelled at" a couple times lately for your posts!!! i just wanted to say that i think your advice has been just fine in the other threads and that i feel bad that people have been so cranky to you. if a person doesn't actually want the advice that they're ASKING for... i don't know why they are posting anything to begin with. anyhow though... it goes to show you how differently things can come across to people on the computer vs in person. keep the ADVICE and SUPPORT coming... that's what most of us are here for!!! (some of these cranky people need to come join the POd club for their VENTING sessions)
     
  24. Master Pre-K

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    Psalm 37-4

    Delight yourself in the LORD; And He will give you the desires of your heart.

    but my favorite Psalms is #100

    Psalms 100

    100:1 A Psalm of praise. Make a joyful noise to the LORD, all ye
    lands.
    100:2 Serve the LORD with gladness: come before his presence
    with singing.
    100:3 Know ye that the LORD he [is] God: [it is] he [that] hath
    made us, and not we ourselves; [we are] his people, and the
    sheep of his pasture.
    100:4 Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, [and] into his
    courts with praise: be thankful to him, [and] bless his name.
    100:5 For the LORD [is] good; his mercy [is] everlasting; and
    his truth [endureth] to all generations.
     
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    ask MsT about "He's An On Time God"

    smalltown,

    He may not come when you want Him, but he's right on time when you need him.

    Praise Report

    Today, I went to two pantries, and talked to someone at my church ministry. I told her point blank, I need help, and didn't appreciate the other members dissing me like that over the church dinner. I said, I am not too proud to beg, 'cause I keep telling you folks, "I don't have a job!", and I don't see anyone offering to help me! I've been in other clubs and groups, and as soon as a member said they were having a crisis, a hat was going around and they had a lap full of money before they could grab a tissue! So, I said it. I wanted some help, and ask not, get not. I felt they were not listening to me! Gee, if three people gave me a dollar, at least I could buy some lunch!

    She said, she didn't realize it was that bad. and she would get back to me.

    the second pantry was a real blessing today. they actually talked to me about my troubles, and offered suggestions. and, not only did I get some food, they gave me gas money and gift cards for Jewels (grocery store)!

    Then, I went to the library, and spent hour looking over the social services directory. Got 10 names of child care/head start programs. sending out resumes this afternoon.

    will make new resume for office work. ready to toss in the towel for teaching jobs, if I don't hear something by next week. need to focus on something with benefits, and then I can be an aide part time or volunteer with the children in church. at least that well, I can still teach.
     
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    That's exactly how I feel!

    no matter what i post, you reply, comment, suggest, advise on EVERYTHING i say!! THANKS!!

    :hugs:
     
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    Ashe(AMEN) to that MPK!!

    Keep your head up- you ALL are in my prayers.

    Romans 8:28 should keep you encouraged
    "For we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love the Lord, to those who are called according to HIS purpose."

    So you KNOW & are confident that something's coming!! Don't let you get you and get in your own way-it's actually there, you just haven't discovered it yet.
     
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    can I join this club

    I am so embarrassed right now b/c I am undercover. I have posted on here before, not tons, but enough. I read more. Anyways, I have met some great people on here.....

    Unfortunately, I just went thru a devastating experience that I wanted to share here, but without exposing myself.

    Maybe I need a club for the defeated...

    Long story short...in my area it is very hard to find jobs in teaching. So, when I was hired recently, I figured that I had finally been given a chance. No. I had been given a job that NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would want. I should have known because this is a very competitive place to find jobs in general and there were some warning signs in general, but not about this job. I had no idea.

    Let us just say I was put in a deeply terrible situation (staff members, most of them, told me I had been misled before school started and they kept saying that whatever happened would not be my fault, they said this over and over) and instead of support, I was verbally abused and berated for several days to the point I became sick and resigned (they gave me immediate because they know what they did). I have never backed down to anything in my life and I have had some horrible things happen, but I will spare you the details and say that it was appalling times 1000000000000000000000000000. I cried for days, and I do not cry often!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So, how do you pick up the pieces when this was a career you changed to and then had this happen????????? My friends say that I should still teach, my heart says no. I am depressed and out of a job and back to struggling with bills, but aside from that, I am really beside myself. I put so much effort into this and it was taken from me.

    I assure you I am not a drama queen; this was something that was, bizarre-to quote from a friend.

    For all of you struggling and searching, my heart goes out to you. I hope you find the job for you. I implore you, though, if you are in job market that is overflowing with applicants and you get an interview, please ask questions....although, I did and was still lied to. But, be careful. I highly doubt what happened to me will happen to you, but I guess I am amazed at how ridiculous this field can be. I have seen some things that make my stomach turn but I have seen some wonderful things, so I know these schools exist.

    Thanks for letting me vent. My family has been great, thank goodness. But I dont know if they really get it?

    I wish I could send you all a job today where you would be so happy.

    Take care.
     
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    Master Pre-K.
    Although I don't post very often, I am following your story. I glad you had some positive things happen today. PTL!!!!
     
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    sadundercover,
    I am so sorry this happened to you. I have had some horrible things happen to me as well. You are in the right place. You will find people here that have gone through some hard times. We are able to share our struggles and joys on this thread.
     
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    MPK, it's amazing that you pick this verse to start with. I just started reading 90 Minutes in Heaven by Don Piper and he starts each chapter with a bible verse. The chapter that I had just started before coming to AtoZ was this exact one!
     
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    UNDERCOVER-

    Yep, this is a second home to those who need someone to listen AND understand. Sometimes other friends and family will listen to us and even offer sympathy, but how many of them really understand what we're going through? That we WANT to deal with their malbehaved children and get them on the right track, that we want to be mothers fathers doctors nurses cosmetologists to those who need it and don't have the guardians who will do their job. We WANT to take a pay scale that is in most people's eyes completely unfair and unjust in comparison to the work we actually put in. We don't just TEACH the children the actual educational concepts but rather we go outside of our job description often being counselors etc. "train up a child in the way he should go and...he will never depart from it.."

    And we're appalled that we WANT to do this and yet districts and schools don't want to give us the opportunity. And some kind of way, we still press on and continue to want this as opposed to some other vocation that we could very well apply for and get with our credentials. Even when friends and loved ones don't understand and tell us that we should look into something else (because we NEED A JOB to pay bills). Only other teachers will understand our desires and frustrations. I hope this helps you feel better.

    So, on behalf of myself (the president-i think, i think somewhere there was a vote-over) and the entire club-staff & members.. WELCOME.

    Feel free to come vent about ANYTHING. Getting a job, keeping a job, kids not following rules, short paychecks, no paychecks, bills WAY past due, husband/bf (or wife/gf-don't wanna be sexist) getting on ur nerves.. ANYTHING. It started out as just getting a job frustrations, but sometimes we talk about all the other frustrations life brings. Hope you find peace & solace and most importantly, good friends.

    I know I have..
     
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    Undercover,
    where u from? that is, if you feel comfortable answering & revealing that.
     
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    heather, thank you. I didn't think what I was saying was that bad, but its hard to convey feelings across the web.

    MPK, things will get better...your verses prove that, we just have to remain strong in our faith

    sadundercover, though I can't even begin to fully understand your situation, just know that somewhere out there there are teachers that have been in your shoes that have gone on to other districts and have FLOURISHED. If you know that you're meant to be a teacher, then you have to find the district/school that will work with you. If you want to PM me, I will tell you my story though not as bad as yours, it might give you some inspiration.
     
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    and my story is on the prayer request thread "worried is not the word anymore"- that oughta give ANYBODY some hope..
     
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    and smalltowngal is so0o0o0o extra sweet. ;)

    LOL.
     
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    Well, I FIANALLY got a referral for a local food pantry, I'm going tomorrow morning. What should I bring? Beside the referral and id. What should I expect?
     
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    I don't know how to thank you all. I am so glad I came back. I finally stopped crying a few days ago. I had not slept for days either. I lost 10 pounds but probably gained most of it back.

    I am a she, btw. :) My husband has been terrific, considering he was looking forward to less bill stress. But, when I called him crying he knew.

    This has been a big mess because I will never know what happened. I am pretty sure someone else wanted the job (there would be one reason to take it and one reason only, really and that would mean you would NOT be teaching OR they are lying to a new person, but that seems less likely). That is my guess. The reason being they never gave me a chance!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Principal was nice when she hired me and then a week before school started I was in working on my room and she was acting cold, def. not the same. I would love to talk to some of my former co-workers but I do not want them to feel uncomfortable. Some of them were wonderful to me. I want them to know I did not give up on the kids, even though they need more help than I could have ever given them. It was the adults that did it to me. Oh my, the things they said to me. There were a few and they should be ashamed of themselves.

    I am not sure what to do. Because of the things they said, I am unsure about my competency as a teacher. Something that is new to me. As I told my best friend, I was never the pretty one or the popular one, but I was the smart one (I never flaunted it and never have-it was my thing, my one thing....). I know I am giving them power and that is bad. I think maybe I need more time and I will see that they created this, not me.

    UGH.

    Again, I thank you all for your words and thoughts. You are all a tremendous help to me. :hugs:
     
  39. Turtle321

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    How do you get those referrals????
     
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    Oh my goodness, I hope you are feeling better soon.

    I had to leave a previous job (long time ago) for political reasons, plus the fact that management was never on my side (OR THE KID'S SIDE) from day one. Please don't let this one incident deter you from your teaching, if that's what you really want to do. There are so many other wonderful places to work and teach at....that you can shine on in. Now......if they would only hire some of these great teachers posting in this forum...........:hugs:
     
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