Phonics curriculum?

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  1. waterfall

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    Are there any good ones for gen ed? We have been having this huge issue with phonics at my school. We have many kids who are drastically behind and we think it's lack of phonics instruction in a lot of cases. Some teachers don't teach it because their grade level is "too old" even though the kids still need it. I just had a meeting with a 2nd grade teacher today and she was telling me that 2nd grade desperately wants to teach phonics correctly but they are lacking a systematic approach. They have a fontas and pinnel curriculum but apparently it was just tubs and tubs of material and they never got training on it. Her class has 14 kids who are reading at a DRA level 3 or below. She told me if there was an easy to implement, systematic program she'd be willing to buy it with her own money. I use Orton Gillingham for phonics in my groups, but it's really not meant for use in the gen ed room. Not to mention the training is very expensive. They use that "phonics song" thing and of course phonics comes up in regular reading instruction but it's just not been enough at this point. Suggestions?
     
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    My school used to use Heggerty, but our literacy specialists just recently created a new systematic approach independently. It's not something packaged that they bought, but it might as well be, minus all the fancy materials that come along with those packaged programs. This is just black and white copy paper, but it systematically tells teachers what to teach. Anyway, Heggerty was good for K-1 in gen. ed., so that might be something to look into.
     
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    Thanks, that's something to look into. I did give this particular teacher my sequence for Orton Gillingham but I think part of the problem is that they don't know HOW to teach the phonics either because the kids just aren't getting it with traditional methods.

    Our title teachers use LLI and they were saying that the phonics in it isn't really very systematic or intensive either. I asked them in this meeting today if they were going to be doing more phonics with their lower groups and they essentially said they "can't" because they don't have a program! I was venting to the psych that I feel like if you're a reading specialist you should be able to just teach phonics, but she did point out that they're both classroom teachers who just happened on these positions. The whole thing is a huge mess right now!
     
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    Heggerty is great but it isn't phonics, it's phonemic awareness.

    I have heard good things about the Foundations program which focuses on phonics (It's Wilson for K-3 but meant for whole class instruction). I have also heard some good things about Jolly Phonics. I've never used either, but other K/1 teachers in my district talk highly of them.

    I loved the Literacy Circle's Project Read. I still use many pieces of this with my Kindergarteners. It is based off Orton, but intended for whole class instruction.
     
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    Ah. I've never used it personally. I guess I just assumed it covered both.
     
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    It is called Fundations. My district has been using it for several years with good results. We use it K - 2, but I think it goes to 3rd.
     
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    I've used SPIRE by EPS which I've liked. You can buy modules that you need rather than the whole thing so it saves a bit of money. I'd also say that OG isn't necessarily NOT meant for general education - it's meant for whoever is struggling with the issues that it addresses. Good point about the training, though.
     
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    Thanks for starting this thread. I agree with the 2nd grade teacher at your school that phonics is something very important to focus on, but it's difficult to find a program to follow.

    Has anyone ever used this book?

    http://www.amazon.com/Month---Month...170124&sr=8-2&keywords=month+by+month+phonics

    I almost purchased it at a teacher store one day, but decided to wait. It looked pretty good, but it's from 2008, and I wanted to wait and see if they come out with a new CCSS aligned edition.
     
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    I teach title 1. We have had good luck with Phonics for Reading. It is a workbook based program that is explicit, direct instruction. Not thrilling to teach but it really works well and our kids like it because it's very predictable.
     
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    We use Saxon phonics in k-2. My first 3 years at this school it was just a program that we used with no great consistency. Our principal at the time really didn't like it but the distinct had bought so we used it. The last two years we have a principal who,LOvES it so we started using it with fidelity. I saw a huge difference in my fluency by the end of the year.
     
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    Although it's not phonics, Tucker Signs has helped our district a lot.
     
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    LLI is great for comprehension. I use it in grades K-5. However, they are right. There really isn't much of a phonics component to it. The phonics piece is 5 minutes out of a 30 minute lesson. I have taken kids out of LLI and done FUNdations with them if their comp is good. FUNdations is used in K-3 in my building and I have seen positive results.
     
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    Are you sure your students need phonics? Why not verify they don't know their sounds. I've taught for nearly 30 years (grades 3 - 6) and the only students I've ever had who seem to be behind in their sounds are ELL students.

    It'd be a shame to spend literacy time teaching skills when the kids could be reading.
     
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    I suggest that you visit some websites in the internet. There are sites that have more than enough phonics lessons that you can easily use to help your students learn phonics in a fun way. The activities are not just limited to songs. There are lessons to do and games to enjoy. Find the right website to ease your difficulties.
     
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    You will find sufficient phonics instructions on a wonderful site that I found when looking for ideas on how to make learning more interesting for my kids. Orton Gillingham is useful as well but I think you need to spice them up with more interesting up-to-date online material that offers more current variety at reading. It will save you cash as well since you can go back and refer any time you like. easylearnreading
     
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    We started using Jolly Phonics this year at school. I have heard about it often but finally got to use. Let me tell you so far I have been very impressed! Since is teaches letter sounds with motions my kids love doing it and even my lowest ones are catching on. It also starts kids blending sounds right away to make words. Considering that the majority of my students start the year without knowing any sounds, for them to be reading words at this early point in the school year is extraordinary.
     
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    I am not sure if anyone suggested the Phonics Dance yet, but we started using it last year. It has made such a difference. You can see it in action on You tube. It's not really a dance but a chant and movements to go along with letter cards. We have our cards on the smart board. I believe it has a teacher book to go with it. We also use Heggerty but the two together has made a big difference.
     
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    Yeah, the teachers are already using the phonics dance. I do like it though. It seems that all of our kids just need something more intensive. For some reason there are SO many students who don't have any phonics knowledge. I've never seen anything so widespread like this in the other schools I've worked at. We really do have good teachers and I know they try tons of different strategies for reading, but for some reason the kids just are not getting this.
     
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    Fundations goes way beyond sounds - digraphs, suffixes, vowel teams, trick words, bonus letters, etc.

    I had many fourth graders who had a lot of sight words, but if they didn't know the word, they had no strategies to help them.
     
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    Are you saying that this is because of Fundations?
     
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    No; we have been using Fundations about three years and it helps. My previous students, who had no real phonics, had no strategies. I am now teaching second and see all the things in Fundations I could have used with my fourth graders if they (and I!) had all the strategies they are now learning K-2.
     
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    Our entire county is using Fundations by Wilson K-5. So far it has been extremely helpful on the kindergarten end. It is repetitive and had specific language that you use to familiarize the students with how to form letters and remember the sounds.

    It gives them the letter name, a word and a sound. for example a- apple- /a/. My students are really excelling in it... I have 4 students of latino descent, 4 Vietnamese and they are getting it as well.
     
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    I like the suggestion of finding resources on the web. I am a PS teacher, and have always written my own curriculum. I think most PS teachers do that because buying one is so expensive. With a list of outcomes, I think a teacher could find resources to support concepts.
     
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    Our school uses ReadingEggs
     

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