Paying for your own sub?

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  1. Backroads

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    I can't tell if this is serious.

    Yes, different companies advertise their drugs. We really like our competetive free market.

    But if you honestly think the average patient walks into the office and tells the doctor what he wants based off some ad... wow. Yeah, that doesn't happen like that.
     
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  2. blazer

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    So why bother spending millions of $$$$ advertising them?
     
  3. Backroads

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    Because doctors are part of the group. They just don't appeal to random patients. Far more money is spend presenting these medicines to medical professionals.
     
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    Speak for yourself. I do not.
     
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  5. Backroads

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    I was speaking as the general U.S. opinion of liking the ability to make things and advertise and sell them.

    Not to get political, but I've never actually heard anyone that's against that. May I pick your brain as to why? Only you got me curious.
     
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    I came from a country of socialized care (Hungary) and it's still like that, although you have the option to pay out of pocket for private care.

    Growing up it seemed ok, everyone worked and had free healthcare but looking back and comparing what we have here, the treatment was subpar. Doctors are doctors so they will cure you, but the access to western medicine (as in American and not Eastern European) was extremely limited, hospitals were scary, dentists as well. It was customary, almost mandatory to tip your surgeon. They called it "pocket money", because you would discreetly put a large sum of money in their pocket during a consultation, before your surgery. This mount was a huge hardship on a lot of families - none of us were healthy, it was socialism.

    Now it got to the point that if you can, you choose private care. My mom said in most hospitals they have such horrible conditions that if you go for a surgery you're almost certain to catch some virus / or most likely infection due to subpar sanitation that will leave you with horrible complications.

    When my dad went in there for a routine procedure in 2017, he was already in failing health but he caught some kind of an infection in his intestines, he almost died. He was on a ventilator, etc. Many people died from it. Because his liver was already failing it couldn't handle all the medicine they pumped into him and this probably led to his death 2 months later. He might have had only another 6 months, but still.
     
  7. blazer

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    In the UK we can also opt for private health care though insurance. OK as long as you are not seriously ill. Once you get something serious then the insurance doesn't cover it and you have to rely on the NHS. Plus if, while receiving private care you contract something like MRSA then they immediately send you to an NHS hospital. As for end of life care, forget it. This is only a story I know but one of my best friends has always had private health care. He is always ill. Every time we meet he is popping some pill or other or following some regime for his health. He is the same age as me. I postulated that the reason he is always 'ill' is that his doctor only gets paid when he is prescribing something or having my friend back for more 'consultations'. I bet he has spent 10X more time in front of a health professional than me and has undergone 5x more procedures than me. Is he healthier than me? Probably not.
     
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    I doubt this is true. Most of those medical ads end with ask your doctor about this drug or something along those lines. Most of these ads are marketed towards older people who they show in the ads complaining about one thing or another and telling them to ask there doctor about it.
     
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    I've had this same experience. It's extremely frustrating.
     
  10. Backroads

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    Discussing options with a doctor including a treatment you heard about it a far cry from the implied telling the doctor exactly what you want.
     
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    Just a quick update. Since the previous post I have been having some health adventures. A bout of Pneumonia resulted in a visit to A&E (ER) for lots of examinations and various scans which resulted in 5 days in hospital and massive doses of antibiotics. While there they discovered I have an atrial fibrillation and leaky heart valve. So now on 5 other medications. Several consultations with various experts later and in a few weeks I shall be undergoing a cardio version (stop and restart the heart) and follow up treatments. The total cost to me for all this.........£0

    Seems like contributing to this thread tempted fate!
     
  12. futuremathsprof

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    My goodness! I hope your health improves and wish you health. Be well.

    This is why I am NOT waiting until my sixties to retire because my health could suddenly fail and then I could be bed-ridden or severely hindered from doing anything fun. 50 is the latest that I will work and not a year more, lol!
     
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  13. blazer

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    Thanks.
    I should have added. Had I still have been working in a school then I would be entitled to 6 months sick leave on full pay and if needed another 6 months on half pay. Plus, if the school had to hire a sub I would not be responsible for paying their wages.
     
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    My brother went through the same experience. He is now off most meds and is doing fine. I hope for the same for you.
     
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    Thanks:) That's what I am hoping for. Have a vacation to Chicago booked for mid October. That may have to be postponed:(
     

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