options to clear a credential

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  1. dangerm0use

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    i have my preliminary credential. :D

    can someone explain to me what options i have to clear a teaching credential? im in CA. so far i found this information:

    "Fifth Year

    If you completed a teaching credential program after you received a Bachelor’s degree, and completed 30
    the fifth year requirement has been met.
    semester units while doing so,

    If you earned a credential during your study for a Bachelor’s degree at a California University, you will
    need to complete 30 semester units posted after your graduation date. A fifth year of study should meet on e
    of the following criteria:

    A) Additional subject-matter preparation including, but not limited to, pursuit of a Master’s or higher
    degree
    B) Completion of an accredited program for an advanced or specialized credential
    C) In-service training for which college or university credit is given
    D) Study undertaken to complete an accredited program of professional preparation"

    does this mean i can clear it in the course of obtaining a MA degree, along with the 4 requirements? or is this option unavailable for "new" teachers and i have to go through a school district?

    thanks:p
     
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  3. LoVe 2 TcH

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    I was wondering the same thing... Thanks for asking..
     
  4. Erin Elizabeth

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    What type of credential do you have? If you have an SB2042 credential you need to complete 2 years in the BTSA induction program to get a professional clear credential.
     
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    thanks erin. the wording of the options are confusing. when it states that one can complete it at a university with an induction program you would think that means just enroll in a grad program and you're set.
    oh well.

    another question: what is the process of going through the BTSA program? is it like a seminar that meets weekly? is there "homework" the teachers get? etc?

    thanks
     
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    Clearing an SB2042 Credential

    If you received your SB2042 credential before August 2004 you can clear your credential by just taking the 4 university courses and have the fifth year completed, I got my masters to satisfy this requirement. If you received your credential after August 2004 you must complete the 2-years of BTSA. Your district should also offer an early completion option but it sounds as though that may be a bit time consuming. http://www.btsa.ca.gov/ba/progforms/docs/Induction-ECO.pdf
     
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    You'll get a BTSA box filled with folders that are your tasks. Hopefully your support provider will help you with these. You will also attend classes after school and maybe get release time to go observe other master teachers.
     
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    Since it's a state requirement now, most districts participate in BTSA and will assign a mentor/coach to help you through the process. There are a few different BTSA programs. In my county, we are required to complete a portfolio of documents that prove we are meeting the standards for the teaching profession.
     
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    private school?

    Sorry to jump in - but I was just researching how to clear my credential (preliminary, from a post-BA Cal State teaching certificate program, just arrived in the mail) if I teach at a Catholic school that has no induction program. I couldn't find an answer. Does anyone know?
     
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    in cases like this i believe that it is then OK for the person to go through a university's induction program (if the school has one).

    if the teacher attended a school with an induction program, s/he does NOT have a choice of university classes.

    i personally want university classes..but oh well :(
     
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    I was asking myself this same question yesterday! I tried the dept of edu website, but was left with my question and no answer.

    I'm changing careers, so I got my BA in 1991 in Business Administration, Marketing. Now I'm half way through the teacher preparation program at CSU.

    Will I have to take more classes after this to get a clear credential?

    Will I have to do after school extra activites, etc, to get a clear credential?

    Will i have extra work to do, in addition to being a new teacher who will naturally spend more time on prep, etc, in order to clear my credential?
     
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    I just had my exit interview with BTSA on Monday; it was an intense two-year program! We not only had the "CFASST BOX" of 12 events to complete with a support provider during school (including observations, lesson plans, surveys, record keeping, and lots of professional workshops--probably 12-15 throughout the two years, etc.), but my regional program required a professional portfolio that for me, turned out to be a 5" thick binder. It is a very directed program--the binder was separated into personal items, paper trail, and professional standards requirements. I probably spent more than 200 hours on it...

    In my region, BTSA is the ONLY option to clear a credential at this point. As a career changer myself, I finished my BA in 2003 and my credential in 2005; I am a 2042 candidate. The 150 hours of professional development requirements have been dropped, but logic says you will do most of them anyway, for salary advancement. But you MUST complete the program with high marks in order to qualify for your clear credential. I admit this was a tough thing to add on to the first two years of teaching. But it is not an option!
     
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    Aghhhh! I did NOT want to read this today. Thank goodness I already took tylenol for my headache, but now I think I need a gin & tonic :) And it's 2:46 pm, I'm home alone with my two five year old daughters. I'll have to wait. At least one hour :D

    Man, that really is a surprise, though! 200 hours extra? That's, what, 2.5 hours per week for 10 months for two years, right? That doesn't sound too bad. But AGHHH! I'm going to have to do all that while Trying To Be Home with MY Daughters After School. I think I'm going to faint.

    Are those workshops on weekends or what?
    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Blehhhhh!
     
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    ;-D TeacherShelly: It's too soon to panic! Sorry if I provoked your nerves!!! If it helps any, I am a "Type A, firstborn, overachiever" who was made fun of during these two years for working so hard on this portfolio. On the other hand, mine was one that was requested by the induction program for review by the state board this spring. I can't help it...I don't know any other way to work! As far as the time, I did 98% of my portfolio at home, although much of it was based on classroom work, student work, observations by my support provider, etc. Everything from a personal bio to a copy of your credential to student assessments are required, and at times it was very hard to keep track of what I was in need of!

    Yes, it is VERY time-consuming, and the burden of completing your credential is hanging over your head at all times! Here, there are NO OTHER OPTIONS. The workshops for our group were held one of two ways: academic ones such as EL instruction, classroom management, etc. were held DURING SCHOOL DAYS, which meant we had to have subs for our classes. Other meetings, such as info sessions, portfolio assistance and checks, etc. were held from 4-7 pm (after school) or a few times, during school breaks (winter or spring breaks).

    You can do it! Around here, the process is being a little streamlined, because there were lots of changes in the past few years, but not everything "meshed." Hopefully, wherever you are, the system is already well established with no surprises. You will be provided with lots of assistance if my program was any kind of example at all! I am just so excited to start my third year WITHOUT worrying about "should I copy/document this for my portfolio?" HAHA! I feel 30 pounds lighter!

    Teaching is one profession that requires more than almost any other, and yet, the "pay-off" is not monetary--it's in personal fulfillment.
     
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    Hahaha, that's ok, my nerves will get over it.

    I did send an email to my faculty advisor asking several questions to find out how to go from preliminary to clear credential after finishing my particular prep program. Information is a salve for panic, I always find.

    That's really super the school board asked for your portfolio. Here's to your success!

    I live in Santa Clara county - that's technically Northern California but I suspect you actually live in the northern part of the state? I just went camping in Burney - can't get over those falls - so beautiful.

    Anyway, I went to the library and checked out some bibliotherapy. I'm all better now :)
     
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    Well, I'm FROM northern CA--Sonoma County, Petaluma...but I've been living in the Central Valley (Fresno area) for over 30 years. It's much hotter here!! :-D

    Glad you're feeling better. I'm with you--information always helps! (When I went into labor MANY years ago, the maternity ward nurse told me she could always tell the patients who had gone through childbirth classes. She said the ones who were "less informed" did most of the screaming!! She was right...they were unnerving!!)
     
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    Well, this is OT, but... I was put on bedrest Before my child birth preparation classes and couldn't go. My twins were 2hrs13min apart. I made a lot of noise! That's a day I wouldn't want to repeat (but I would if I had to to get my sweet babies :) :)
     
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    Ouch! I can "almost" feel your pain!! (I had two c-sections!) But ya know, if you could get through that (and you did), you will have NO PROBLEM GETTING THROUGH BTSA!! How's that for getting back on track?! :-D
     
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    Hahahahahahaha! Good one, srh, way to get this thread back on track :) 2 C-sections, wow. I've never had that kind of cut. I think I've got all of my kids now, too (two healthy kids, who could ask for more??)

    My faculty advisor has not replied yet - do you think he's afraid of my maddening banshee cry I'll let out when he tells me This Is Not It, There Are Two Years More Before You Are A Real Teacher. Gaaaah!
     
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    Actually, he's probably one of the "readers" of portfolios and has been reading them since June 1...... Just kidding!!! But that is an enticing job...the readers in our area got paid $200 for a day's work. That's something I'm gonna sign up for as soon as I'm not considered a "conflict of interest!" And your adviser...well, maybe he's just out golfing!

    Your region may have completely different requirements than mine. I do feel that I got the "A Team" with regard to the induction program, though. It's a little much, I think, for beginning teachers to tackle, but with this system, your credential is cleared at the end of two years, as opposed to taking up to five years as was the case with university courses, etc. You HAVE to look at the bright side!!! A little pain now (think childbirth again!) for great blessings later!!
     
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    The way it's been explained to me (for the Los Angeles Archdiocese anyway)--is that we can get a Masters from a choice of 2 (but don't quote me) different private universities and that will satisfy the requirements. Positives: a MA and a clear credential...Negatives? I got hired too late to apply. Now I have to wait a year.:(

    Might be different for other archdioceses though.
     
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    archdioceses dont have an induction program so the full time teachers there CAN go through a university. teachers in public school MUST go through the district induction program.

    heres my question now: what about people who are not full time teachers at a public school, just subbing?
     
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    I don't know if this applies to the current thread, but at my school LTSes and subs don't have to go through any sort of induction program. In fact, they don't have to do any sort of professional development at all, as far as I'm aware.
     
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    dangerm0use, that's a really good question. I have absolutely no idea what the answer is. Your best bet might be to start asking around at your local universities or at the county office(s) of education - if you can find the most senior and knowledgeable credential specialist, that person might know or might know who would know.
     
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    Wow! Everyone says something different about the year and dates of having to participate in BTSA. I have an SB2042 (January 2005) and BTSA was an option for me. BTSA is NOT required if you have an SB2042 credential in January of 2005. That much I know (at least in LAUSD). I had to choose whether I wanted to do the fifth year university thing or participate in BTSA. I chose BTSA for for only one reason: it's FREE! Rather than pay for a year at CSUN and buy books, BTSA gave me books.
    But, I agree 100% with SRH that it was very hard worrying and wondering about documentation and portfolios, etc.
     

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