Opportunities knocking, but is one right?

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  1. msrosie

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    I was offered a position at a school teaching upper elementary, sixth grade. My gut is telling me not to take this position for a variety of reasons, but partly because I originally interviewed for self contained fourth, they just thought I'd be a better fit with 6th.

    Add to that, the school I spent most of last year at just opened up a kindergarten positon. It's not a guarantee that I'd get it, but a pretty good chance because everyone, even the p and ap, wanted me back for the upcoming school year they just didn't have any openings at the time.

    My gut tells me to pass on the other job for so many reasons, but I'm worried because if I pass on it and I don't get the other one, I might be out of luck.
     
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    If you think you'd be miserable, then I'd pass. Unless the job market is tough there. Its a tough choice.
     
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    I always advocate going with one's gut. That said, I wouldn't pass up an opportunity strictly because I was placed in a different grade-level than I had hoped for. They might have had a gut feeling, too, one telling them that that is where you would fit best. I know you said that is not the only reason, so, in the end, follow your gut.
     
  5. msrosie

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    I don't think I'd be miserable. Just not super happy because so much of my volunteer and sub experience and work during undergrad was with lowe levels and I never really intended to go past 5th grade.

    I just happen to be ele/middle level certified.

    The market is tight here, but not impossible if you're really working it.
     
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    I get that.

    However, I've heard so many stories from people, both in real life and on this board, who ended up in a grade or subject they never imagined teaching and ended up being happier than they ever thought they could be. I will also say, after having gained some experience in a couple different schools, I would teach anything I was asked to teach (any grade, any subject, sped or regular ed), so long as I was happy with the admin and my colleagues. I've learned that WHAT you teach isn't as important as WHO you teach with. So, if you like the people you'd be working with, particularly the principal, don't let the fact that it's not your first choice of grade levels stop you. You may love it, and, if you don't, you can talk to the principal about switching grades the following year. At least you'd have a job in a school with good people in the meantime.
     
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    If I had to choose between fourth and sixth, it would matter, but for different reasons. Fourth is starting to get hormonal and not wanting to have to act just like the younger kids, and sixth isn't much different, EXCEPT, they are a little more comfortable in their own skins, which allows them to be sweet, goofy, funny, and less afraid to take leaps of faith when you are teaching them. You will have a couple like this in fourth, some that are very uncomfortable with the hormonal stuff, and others that still want to be the little kids. In my experience, they are a hot mess, and I wouldn't go back to them for all the tea in China. Give me sixth, and I am a happy camper.

    All of that said, if you have never really worked with sixth because of some preconceived notion, then you should do those sixth graders a favor and decline, letting them find someone who appreciates them for all of the goofy fun that they are. That is no reflection on your skills. We all have grades we know we are not cut out for, and for me it is the "itty-bitties" - PreK-1. Again, not for any amount of money! I run out of patience wiping runny noses, tying shoe laces, and having to guide almost every step they take. However, I should point out that I came to realize this about myself because I DID work with them, so it is my experience that tells me they aren't for me.

    If you have never tried sixth, how do you know you wouldn't like them? Just curious, actually.
     
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    I used to work in daycare with the little ones (toddlers & 2-year-olds) and I always swore I would never work in Preschool or Pre-K because those kids always looked crazy and mouthy... but somehow I ended up in Pre-K and absolutely loved it! And now they are my favorite age! I'd go up to mid-elementary but never below the Pre-K level.
     
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    I did a lot of volunteer and church nursery and youth group work with pre-k students and I LOVE them! I love how excited so many of them are to experience school. Once you get past the missing the parents thing that is.

    I never said I didn't think I'd like them. 6th grade is a challege, but they're not bad. I learned that first hand during a practicum stint in 6th grade and while subbing in several 6th grade classrooms.
    Through subbing, tutoring, and volunteer work, I've worked with students prek-8th grade. So I have a little bit of experiece at a lot of levels.
     
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    I was trying to say you never know unless you try, BUT it looks like you've already worked with 6th graders before.

    I would go with the one you love because life is too short to go with a "safer" choice.
    I am actually in a similar situation. I have an offer already (I said I was interested but haven't signed any paperwork or anything) but now I have a potential/not 100% sure offer from another school that I would want MORE. And I don't want to turn down the first offer and end up not getting the 2nd one either. But I also don't want to accept the first offer and then a month later say "just kidding! I found a better job" because I can not burn bridges in this small town!
     
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    My offer is in a different town, so I'd end up moving all the way across the state, which ya'know is scary. But the same with you, I don't want to burn bridges there because there are always opening in the district that the position was offered in and mid year or next year if need be, I could reapply there.

    And the not 100% but pretty sure opportunity is in my community. In my home district. So I want to let the not 100% pan out.
     
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    So it looks like we are the exact same situation. I can't help you that much since I'm trying to get people to help me with the same problem! Ha!
     
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    I think you helped more than you relaize. Everyone did. It's so helpful to have a place to write out what's going on in my head because just leaving the decision in my head it's like I was spinning my wheels.

    I think you should go with what feels right. Maybe it's the romantic in me, but if you think it's better for you the possible is better than the guarnetee.
     
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    How long will it take for you to find out if you will be offered the K job?
     
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    A couple weeks.
     
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    So, you have to let the offering school know if you will accept before the other school comes back with their offer. Tough situation. In that case, I would probably take the bird in hand, since you say it is not something that you would really dislike.The school offering the 6th grade position must have seen something in you that shows you will relate well to students of that age.

    Personally, I would run, not walk to a 6th grade class rather than a K class. I love the independence and wacky wits of older children.
     
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    It sounds like you haven't even interviewed for the K position yet. Is that right? That said, I agree with swansong. I'd take the 6th position, given the timeline, the uncertainty, and the fact that you wouldn't be miserable in it. I've known too many people who were sure they were a shoo-in only to be disappointed when there were others who were also shoo-ins who beat them out. It happened in my district this past spring. There were at least three people out of five being interviewed who thought they were shoo-ins for two open positions. There were at least two others who were upset because they expected to be offered an interview at minimum and weren't. In the end, one of the shoo-ins and someone from the outside were offered the two positions. It just seems too risky for something that you aren't sure of when you have an acceptable, albeit not perfect, alternative.
     
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    Alright well, let me join in the club here. I was offered a job teaching 4/5 in a great district at a school no more than 15 minutes away. (and starts at 9 AM!) Then the very same day (yesterday) (in-between interview and offer) I got called to interview in my home district, which of course is nice because I know my area better and I'd be on the same schedule as my kids. Then I get another call today from another school in my home district to interview tomorrow. Both schools I'm not quite as excited to work at as the first district. I've only ever taught primary so not clear on what goes on in a 4/5. Interview tomorrow is for K and I'd scheduled another on Tuesday (probably upper grades), but that will probably be too late (scheduled with first district to sign papers Monday). It's hard to know what to do because I love being with my kids and so I hate missing out on having spring break, etc with them. But honestly, as teachers we get way more time than the average working parent.

    As far as your Q goes, since you know the people, is there anyway you can find out how sure of a thing it is? You just never know what they want even if they said all those kind things to you.
     
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    You're right, I haven't interviewed yet, just scheduled the interview.

    The people I've talked to said that it's a pretty sure thing. The P prefers to hire people who've worked in his building a lot either as subs or as aides because he knows whether they mesh with his staff and how they are as teachers.

    Plus, it's been pretty common knowledge that he's gotten quite a bit of pressure from district level to diversify his staff.

    So I have several things working in my favor.

    And I just got called to interview at another school in my area.
     
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    It sounds like you have a good chance at the job you want, but there are no guarantees. I guess what it comes down to then is...

    Are you willing to risk possibly beginning the school year with no teaching job in order to hold out for the possibility of the perfect job?

    Only you can answer that for you.
     
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    Just wanted to add, the 6th grade teacher at our school is certified prek-3. I can't imagine her teaching the little ones! She is so good with the 6th graders. There is a lot you can do with the older ones.

    That said, go with your gut on this one.
     
  22. LouiseB

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    I agree with Bella. If you are okay if it turns out you have no job come fall, then do what you want to do.
     
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    I was in a similar situation and decided to go with the one I want, even if it means I don't get that job and I end up with zero offers. You only live once, right? Go for what you want!
     
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    I made the choice to pass on the job and hope and pray about the one that I want. I was really worried that I'd wake up the next morning and regret making the decision, but here we are on Sunday and I'm still 100% at peace with the choice that I made. If it blows up in my face and I end up without a job next year, it's just a risk I took.
     
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    I'm glad that you made the right decision for you.
     
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    Ahh good for you! I'm in the exact same boat. :thumb: Good luck!
     
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    Update:

    My gamble at turning down the other school for what I thought and everyone else thought was an almost guaranteed spot at the school I spent most of last year at didn't pay off. I found out Monday that I didn't get the position. I'm really bummed out because I fit in so well in that school and the P has seen me teach and wrote me a glowing letter of recommendation.

    The good news though is that I currently have an offer to be a LTS from the first of September until the first of February. The P is giving me until next Tuesday to accept, but right now I have no other interviews on the horizon so I'm 95% sure I'm accepting it. Even though because the dates are so awkward, I'd be taking myself out of the running for any possible midyear openings.
     

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