Oh Britney....

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  1. nasimi77

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    There probably has been a thread on this started somewhere else, but forgive me if I didn't see one. I'll be one to admit I've had a tenacious, and also somewhat morbid fascination with what is going on with Britney Spears in the headline news and tabloids these days. I can't say I'm a big fan, albeit yes a few of her songs I've found myself singing to in past years. Some of her choices I have not been that impressed with, and when she married "KFED" who already had children with another woman, I was rather disgusted. However, to watch her unravel before our very eyes now is really quite a frightening spectacle. When I heard she lost custody of her kids, I was glad for the sake of those children. She is in no way fit to be taking care of little ones. However, there is a real part of me that is sad for her....because IMHO she is so mentally ill that she is now just as much a danger to herself as she was to those children. Dont' get me wrong here folks, this isn't a "aw poor Britney" thread. Just more of an admittance that as angry as I've been over the years watching her make one foolish choice after another, I'm beginning to think she has just been sick all along. This town is grateful for the tabloid $ to see a star fall, and truth is....she is a human being, who really needs some serious help now. I just hope she gets it. For God's sake she needs to get out of L.A. for starters.
     
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    who got xustody of her kids ....?
    hopefully not KFED?
    she def needs help!
     
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    Yes, KFED himself got "temporary full custody" of the kids. Turns out he's quite the caring father, or so they say. I saw a whole report on him last night. I guess the best thing he ever did for himself was poke fun at his own expense when he did that Super Bowl commercial lat year. He was this hip hop rap artist in a music video, and at the very end you saw him looking into a monitor at a fast food place, his boss yelling at him to "get back to work!". Anyhow....reports say Federline is concerned about those kids. Sure, he wouldn't ever be my first pick for father of the year, but between him and Brit, he's actually the better choice!:mellow:
     
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    I don't know how they call it full costody, she still sees them every other day if she chooses (from what I understand). Some women are just not ment to have children........ I'm sure as teachers you probably have seen a few.

    But when my parents were divorced I saw my dad just on the weekends...... not shuffled all around..... then when we moved it was a few weeks in the summer. I'd say thats all she needs and probably can handle.

    But it sure is terrible that all this stuff plays out in the media, it will end up screwing up those kids.
     
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    ABall: Yeah, I'll say the temp/full/ whatever custody confuses me. I think from what I recall Brit does have visitation, but it's supervised...she can't just show up on her own.:unsure: Amd tp those little boys. My heart aches for them. I saw a tabloid picture that showed Brit in the driver's seat, and the car was mobbed by cameras, and one little boy grabbed his brother's hand....they looked terrified. That would scare me, I can't imagine dealing with that at such a young age. I think she just had children way too young....and under the circumstances, it was a shaky foundation to begin with.
     
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    I heard this morning if she is sober for 12 hours before hand, she can see them.
     
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    It's sad. I think of all the responsible, caring, women out there who would truly love these kids and take such good care of them.

    Brit's just another case of too much too soon. The best thing she could do for herself is move back to her little town in Louisiana and get out of Hollywood.
     
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    I agree MissFrizz, there was too much money, popularity, everything too soon for her. She should have never broken up with Justin Timberlake. It seems that her downfall started after that. I was hoping that losing custody of her kids would be a wake up call to her, but it just seems that she continues on with her life right after handing them over.
     
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    These cases are symptomatic of the horrible change in our culture that encourages children to act like adults years before they are ready to develop into adults. It's not only stars who are exposed to the raw realities of life long before they are able to handle them. Very sad. Children deserve childhood.
     
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    I agree with you 100%:2up:
     
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    I do not feel sorry for her.
     
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    I cringe when I think that I went to her concert when I was in high school - it must been in 1999 or so. Very few people know that because it is so embarrassing...I only went because the person I adored had bought the tickets for his girlfriend months in advance, they broke up, he asked me to go...oh, the things people do for "love." :unsure:

    Okay, anyhow...

    As much as her behaviors disgust me - from the pornographic-esque music videos to her terrible parenting "techniques" - I still can't help but feel for her. Celebrity is an odd establishment. While she signed up for it, so to speak, I cannot imagine being her. Then, I also have to ask myself: at fifteen or sixteen years old, did she know what life had in store for her. I think not.

    The picture that made me sad was one of her and Kevin sitting on a beach. The picture that was printed was just them sitting together, seemingly staring out into the ocean, enjoying a nice day. Another angle, however, showed the fifteen to twenty paparazzi in a semi-circle in front of them - blocking their view of the ocean, and literally within ten feet of them. I don't know why this had such an impact on me - I just felt it must be so sad.

    At the same time, she clearly enjoys attention. I'm pretty certain she didn't forget her underwear, for example.

    It is a complex situation. She indeed needs help. I don't know if her life can ever really be repaired. If she goes home it is not as though life will return to pre-stardom.

    I'll refer to one of my favorite movies - Ever After. In it "Cinderella" asks if society does not first make thieves and then punish them. I wonder, then, if we, as a society, do not make celebrities to watch them fall. Don't misunderstand me: she is an idiot. An i-d-i-o-t. But she is still a person - one of God's (most) unique creatures - and I don't take pleasure in watching someone crumble as she has.
     
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    Dr. Phil did a whole show on this (and I know this is my 2nd reference to him in a thread) and one of the people he had in studio said that many times celebrities make deals with paparazzi that they will be at x location at y time. I know that Brit is probably the way she is because of the media, but look at the other high profile moms that do what is right for their kids. Reese, Angelina, Gwen, Jennifer Garner. The list goes on. But its like her former bodyguard said, she was doing stuff while the boys were in her custody that NO parent should do. The judge did the right thing...laid things out for her that she had to do, but she did NONE of them.
     
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    Oh, absolutely...she is a horrible mother.
     
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    She's a talentless idiot, and her innocent children deserve better. How sad is it when this father, an adulterer who deserted his pregnant girlfriend and their young child to shack up with a celebrity, is deemed the better parent?

    Neither of them deserves any sympathy. Those poor little children, however, deserve better parents.
     
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    I feel sorry for her, even if she may be calling the paparazzi to be where she is, I think she believes if she is still in the tabloids, she is still at the top. Yes she needs help, no I do not think she is a terrible mother. A terrible mother is a person who makes mistakes, and when given the command/opportuinty to do something about it does nothing, not even see the child. Removes all photos of the child from the house, like my nephews mother did. (Yes he saw the house like that, broke his heart) Brittany was doing some of what she was asked to do, not the drug testing, but she could be in denial of a problem and avoiding the test for that reason (it does happen all the time)

    I think she needs help, she needs to be in a REAL rehab center, not a glorified spa. But she also needs the paparazzi to just back off, whether they are invited or not. Even better the top news channels, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and sometimes FOX needs to stop treating her life as REAL news, it is a real life, but it is not news. It will improve things greatly if she stops getting all of this attention for negative behavoir.

    I just think it is all so very sad, and a sad commentary on our country when news stations go on for the 10th night in a row about Brittany's habits with hair cuts and undergarments.
     
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    No offense, but how can you possibly think she is not a poor mother? She "allegedly" does drugs in their presence, I am sure they are with a lovely nanny the majority of the time, she is mentally unstable... As I said earlier, I find it all very sad, but nevertheless she is a negligent mother.
     
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    The reasoning behind my statement is based upon what I have seen from women who really should not be allowed to have kids. My nephews mother refused to do anything about his diabeties, removed him from school in the 7th grade because she didn't like his special ed program (told the state I was homeshooling him......but not me, so the state thought a licenced teacher was supervising and never checked in, but I wasn't liscened then), after we got custody we learned she allowed her husband to beat him reguarlly, sent him to a mental hospital several times for being mean to his sister and eventally sold all of his stuff and removed all of his pictures, and refuses to do one teeny tiny thing the court is requireing of her, she won't even talk to her own lawyer!

    Brittany is a mother that has issues, she needs help, but she isn't a poor mother, just one that needs to be retrained. I do not believe that she is one of the those women that shouldn't be allowed to have kids because she obviously loves them. But substance abuse does weird things to people, and she is making bad choices because of that, cure the subance abuse, you can correct the problem. With people like my nephews mother, you cannot fix evil.
     
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    Just because she is not the worst mother does not mean that she is not a poor mother. I know enough to know she has made some really, really bad decisions, but I don't know enough to know whether you are right or wrong in our statement that she "obviously loves them." What exactly leads you to think that? Maybe there is some "evidence" that I'm not aware.

    Can she overcome this? Yes. Can she turn her parenting around and grow to be a good, solid mother? Yes, it is possible.

    Okay, enough of my life has been wasted on Britney now. That concert back in the day and now numerous posts in a discussion board. As sad as it all is, I feel less intelligent just talking about it. Signing off. :)
     
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    She is not parent material at this stage, that's for sure. She's not too bright and may never be able to parent. Parents who push their kids into show business at 6 or 7 (Mouseketeers) ought to think long and hard before they do so .....

    Some celebrities will be rotten parents, complete mess-ups as people, but so are non-celebrities. It is just sickening that this is what the media drool over. How low have we sunk?
     
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    This is just my opinion, and some may not like it. If she were a "normal" mother, meaning if she wasn't Britney Spears but Norma Jean down the street would she still have her kids? We as teachers see this kind of thing all the time. Parents who still have their kids even though they beat them, do drugs in front of them, ignore them, not feed them, do nothing about their lice, and many other things. Do I agree that her ability to be good parent is being impaired by drugs and alcohol? Yes!! Does she need help? YES! Is taking her kids and giving them to a man who by all accounts is not much better at the parenting thing the right thing. Well appearently in California this is acceptable. You can't tell me that K-Fed has become a monk? Isn't he the one that gets paid to party. I personaly think that we care too much what is going on in some mansion in California, when there are kids in our own schools and classes that really need our help. Those are the kids I feel sorry for. The ones that are in my class that don't have a Mom and the Dad is abusive. Or the kid that has had lice since last year. Or the kinder kid that knows what it's like to have the cops bust their house because Mom and Dad do drugs. Or the child that tells us her Daddy got his hands cut off by the bad man for stealing. Those are the kids we need to worried about. Do I sit up nights worried about Brit and her kids. No way!!! I have too many other kids I worry about.
     
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    Unfortunately for Britney, she is in the public eye which makes it that much more "out there" when she does screw up. Yes, being a celebrity is difficult, I'm sure. However, she was a celebrity from the time she was a kid. She knew what it was like. She knew the consequences and all of the repricussions (sp?) of being a celebrity. Knowing that and all that came with it, she should have either prepared herself to have children and really discussed this with her husband or just not had children at all. She is definitely not parent material and neither is he, really. Neither of them should have had children at this time in their lives but, the reality is that they did. Those children deserve to be loved and cared for appropriately. I hope they get it. I hope the cycle does not continue as they grow up and have their own families.
     
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    I think the reason her kids were taken was not because of the way she was parenting, but that fact that she didn't do anything the judge laid out for her. I'm sure she thought because she's Britney Spears that she's above the law and the judge was tired of it. She didn't even show up Wednesday for the hearing!! I agree though txmom, that we have children in our classrooms that are dealing with a lot more than that.
     
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    Brittany is an adult and needs to take responsibility for her life. People need to stop making excuses why she acts like she does, the things she does are her decisions, nobody is forcing her to do drugs, drink...
     
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    Well said, Emma35. Just because she is a celebrity does not give her the right to do the things she chooses to do and not have to pay the price. Celebrities seem to get away with a lot of things that us "regular folk" don't. She needs to grow up.
     

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