*~*~ Official 2007 CSET MS Test ~*~*

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  1. jd123

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    Ha! I really just decided to take the cset. I haven't taken any part of it yet. I'm going to study from a couple of guides and read, read, read. I'm going to let everything sink in - good advice that I saw somewhere- and I'll be ready by May. I'd probably be ready in March, but I just want to be sure.
     
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    If you're good at taking tests and reasonably fast, it makes sense to go for all three subtests at once. But it also makes perfect sense to break the subtests up across several testing days.
     
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    Boosalis (Beating the CSET) suggests doing it all in one shot if it's your first time taking the test. I'm ok with most of the subject matter in subsets 1 and 3. I can get that done within the 5 hours. But add math and science to that as well? I don't think so. I don't want to pay for all 3 and have to retake and repay for any portion of the test. So I figure I'll just pay for 1 and 3 and pass (I hope!), then concentrate on subset 2 by itself.
     
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    Boosalis is right for some people but not for others.

    Your strategy sounds perfectly appropriate to me.
     
  5. katrinkakat

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    JD123
    Im thinking I'll be ready in March, too, but want to take my time and absorb more info. The only two sites I saw near us were Bakersfield and Woodland Hills. Woodland Hills is much closer. For the CBEST test there was one at the High School right here in Palmdale, but the CSET sites seem to be more spread out.
    Teachergroupie,
    just saw your ? now about publishing date for Watkins book, it's 1973, although the library copy I had was an updated edition, with a later publishing date. I compared the two and couldn't find any differences tho! My whole family enjoys the photographs in this book.
    ~Katie
     
  6. TeacherGroupie

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    Huh. The one disadvantage to that is that there are Just A Few Things that have happened in California in the meantime - I mean, jeez, Nixon was still President (and, yes, TeacherGroupie IS old enough to remember that, and do you mind??)

    Try looking up "California history" on Answers.com.
     
  7. katrinkakat

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    I realize that. But I KNOW history since the 70's. I lived it.
    It's the old stuff that I needed to relearn. I like to see photos of California in the olden days, especially from areas where I have lived. My fathers family all emigrated to Jackson, CA and Sutter Creek areas so I'm fascinated by the photos of the Gold Rush era.
     
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    PS. I can see the need for students to have a more up to
    date version of a CA History book, however. I still like this one tho.
    :)
     
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    Scores tomorrow (from Jan. 20)!

    I must admit that I'm pretty excited/nervous/anxious about finding out my score for subtest II. (It was my first subtest, and I'm really hoping that I won't have to take it again.)

    I've been trying to tackle history for subtest I (I'm taking I and III in March), and I'm having a hard time breaking it all down without getting overwhelmed with the amount of content and length of timeline that's covered. If anyone has any additional history studying methods or tips to share, I'd be very grateful.

    Good luck to everyone receiving unofficial scores tomorrow!
     
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    Have you rummaged through previous threads and posts?

    Try not to get caught up in the names-and-dates thing. CSET exams are by and large not that driven by facts and rote: instead, the focus is on what kind of reasoning you can do with what you know. In the case of history, this means being able to make appropriate connections between events. Think, for example, about James II of England deciding he was going to be the UK's Louis XIV: what differences between England and France might drive his success or failure?
     
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    I just passed I and III! * I was surprised I passed I. I know I did poorly on the written responses for Social Studies as I had totally blanked) I must have done really well on the Language and did well enough on the Multiple Choice.


    Now I just have Subject II in March and I can apply for my Authorization if I pass.:)

    Anyone can recommend something for Science? I have Usborne.
     
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    (I'm the reverse :) ) I passed II (hooray!), and I've got I and III in March. Congrats on your passing scores!

    P.S. Sorry I don't have any particular science books to suggest. I just used the Cliffs and Kaplan CSET books and supplemented with some science websites.
     
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    yay i just checked my scores!!! i passed I and III...now i have to study for II in march!!! i wonder how that test will be...i'm so happy!! i was nervous this entire weekend. :)
     
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    usfmeghi, if by the Usborne you mean the big fat Science Encyclopedia, you're probably good to go: look for ways that the information in there helps you explain (a) things you run into in everyday life and (b) the points on the Subtest Description document for Subtest II (which is the Subtest II part of what's on the Content Specifications/Subject Matter Requirements document, so if you've already got that one, use it).

    Incanto270 and Brookerjean, well done! Be sure to celebrate, please.
     
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    Oh man! I passed too! I took subtests I and III in January, and I was so sure I didn't do well. I can't believe I passed, considering I'm a foreigner and English is my second language.
    Guys, I'm so happy!!!

    Now I have Subtest II in March!!!

    I'm using Internet-linked Science Encyclopedia to study for science, and I love it! It's so simple, and I love the illustrations!
     
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    And congratulations to all of you, guys!!! :angel:
     
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    I Passed!!

    Yay! Passed subtest III! The wait was sooo long, and then yes!!, I can't believe it!, All that studying paid off - the hours in the library!!

    Ok-I'm not making sense here-sorry :eek:

    Congrats to all who passed!!!

    (passes out from sheer excitement and exhaustion)
     
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    Very good indeed, Chokita. It's pretty common, actually, that people whose native language isn't English find that CSET's less hard on them than CBEST was. And if you're enjoying the Usborne Science Encyclopedia - which, by the way, isn't so much simple as it is clear: there are some very complicated topics in there - that bodes well for you on Subtest II.

    SunnyDaisy, if you're passing out, it's probably blood sugar: have you had your chocolate for the day?
     
  20. Chokita

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    TeacherGroupie, what I meant by "simple" is that this encyclopedia explains everything in simple terms :) I guess you're right it makes everything clear.

    SunnyDaisy, I'm happy for you!
     
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    Congratulations to everyone! That's great everyone had such happy news! It gives all of us hope that we can do it, too!
    I wont be taking mine until May so hopefully in June you will see my post saying "yea! I passed all three!" :) Congrats again!
     
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    Ooops, Chokita: didn't mean to offend. That aside was intended for those who turn up their noses at the book because it's from a children's-book publisher. In fact, the Science Encyclopedia, when used in conjunction with the Web links in it, is one of Malcolm's recommendations for passing CSET single subject science tests.
     
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    I passed II alas I am done!. Congrats to all. . . .I used what your child needs to know about science homework. . . .
     
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    There you go, anewstart101! Good show! Don't forget to celebrate properly.
     
  25. TeacherGroupie

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    I posted this before seeing your post on the "Discouraged" thread.

    anewstart101, you rock.
     
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    Well, after 3 attempts at Sub-test II (Math/Science) I once again FAILED! This time by ONE POINT!...ugh! I've already registered for the March test but I am so done with these ridiculous tests.
     
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    Oh, I forgot to say...Congratulations to all of you that got the good news on your test scores today. I don't mean to "rain on your parade". I alreay passed sub-tests I and III last year so I know the great feeling of passing at least those parts.
     
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    Is one point closer than you've come before, irish? If so, hold that thought - it means you can do this.
     
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    I have gotten progressively closer in the three tests. My Math/Science scores have been 208, 212, and 219.
    It is just so-oo-oo frustrating to have gotten so close this time. But I am reviewing all of my books/materials again, really concentrating on the short-response as that is always my "scary" area!
    I feel like the "little engine that could"!...I think I can, I think I can!
     
  30. TeacherGroupie

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    Ah. Are you seeing mostly p's, mostly k's, mostly s's, or an even sprinkling of each?
     
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    I know this is a late post, as we got our scores on Tuesday...but I passed my LAST subtest, I. I am overjoyed and feel such relief! Whew! My friend passed 2 subtests that she took as well, so we went on last night to celebrate!!

    Congratulations to everyone else...and if you're still trying...don't lose hope because it's very possible to do!
     
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    Good show, MissWull!
     
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    Congratulations! How was the test compared to the practice tests found on the website or in the study guides? (Can we ask that?)
     
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    I see no reason why not.
     
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    can I say something? I had problems with short answer constructed response. The first time I took math/sceince I gave up and on the short answers had p,s, k's on each short answer. My problem was I doubted myself and did poorly. I took it this time and passed I did a little better on the mC still poorely in science. But on the short answer constructed response I got a check for three of them and only one that was p,k. These scared me the most I still doubted what I was doing but I did it anyways figuring I was telling a good story or getting it right. I found what I did know in the questions and expanded on that even if it was just a part of the question. I don't know if this helps but it helped me to change the way I thought. I passed I still can not believed it.

    I also went on the site and did a search for math and science cset and read all the posts. It helps me to see it on a screen. I recommened this forum for a classmate of mind
     
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    I like what you have to say, anewstart101. Attitude is huge in test taking.
     
  37. katrinkakat

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    Congratulations MissWull!! How great for you!
     
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    Congrats

    Congrats MissWull and all those who passed!

    Just to piggyback, I also found it useful to put down relevant information for the constructed response. It may have not been EXACTLY what the scorers were looking for, but if you give them information to work with, they'll find ways to give you points. Just don't become discouraged and leave a blank. Try to squeeze as much points from the essay even if you have no clue whatsoever.

    If you didn't pass, please don't get discouraged. I know someone who had to take subtest II 5 times before she actually passed! Admittedly, it was rough, but for her the end was definitely worth it.

    It IS possible to pass these tests, so don't try to talk yourself down into thinking that your doomed. You've got my vote of confidence ;)
     
  39. jd123

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    I'm sorry, what are p, k, and s's?
     
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    P=Purpose of the question. Did you answer what was being asked

    K=Subject Matter Knowledge

    S=Support. How well did you support youanswer

    This applies to the constructed response
     

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