Not excited for school this year...

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  1. futuremathsprof

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    I would have filed a formal complaint about your principal with the district office. I, for one, would not stand such abuses and would document each occurrence and get witnesses to corroborate the story. Absolutely ridiculous!
     
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    To clarify, age doesn’t matter to me, either, and says nothing about someone’s qualifications. I am happy that they are still younger because it gives me a cushion in terms of how long I have until the next replacement comes along based on the numbers.

    To provide some context: The admin at my school are all compensated extremely well (VP’s make $115,000, P makes $150,000, and the CEO makes $210,000 — these all stay fixed year to year, but they are due to rise because of the rising minimum wage in CA) and we have like a 97% retention rate with faculty because the board members that govern the school know staff are more likely to stay if they are happy AND are paid well. Imagine that.
     
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    You obviously have not worked in one of the many dysfunctional districts where such goings-on occur every day with the knowledge of district office administrators. Formal complaints in these settings have little effect other than to blacklist the whistleblower! I was once told that every administrative position in our school system is a political one. School administrators - like those in other professions - learn to use their political connections and power of persuasion (e.g. boasting of one's achievements) for personal gain, mainly in terms of high salaries and well-padded benefits and retirement packages. I would submit that the politics of private schools have more differences than similarities to that of public schools.
     
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    They are similar in some ways and different in others. However, it sounds as if some of what your past administrators do/did verges/verged on illegal.
     
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    Now you know why it is that I often have a negative view of school administrators (not you)! The same ol', same ol' in three different districts and fifteen schools across the spectrum. Been There
     
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    Understood. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but it’s experiences like these that make me so cynical.
     
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    Healthy cynicism based on one's experiences is not all bad, IMO. I have to add a couple more anecdotes with which to frame my negative comments. Evaluations are highly important to most teachers (and administrators for that matter). So, imagine preparing for your biennial eval. with a fantastic lesson only to have your principal fall asleep less than halfway through it! Or imagine a principal who was too busy to fulfill his obligation to observe a teacher in the classroom for an eval., ended up not doing it at all and wrote up a fake report - this political individual went on to become the district's personnel director/assistant superintendent, second in command and salary only to the superintendent.
     
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    It's unfortunate that you're always so Eeyore-like, Been There! :(
     
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    I love to respond to these snarky one-liners from people who all seem to have the same splintered plank in their eyes. I'm flattered that you would compare me with one of your favorite childrens' cartoon characters - as if I should be familiar with Winnie-the-Pooh. (I would have preferred to have been compared to a Shakespearean character.) I should remind you that it's your prerogative to you view my posts as being gloomy and pessimistic or insightful and informative. An open mind and willingness to learn are prerequisites for the latter to occur. FYI, my comments are never fabricated nor exaggerated and are intended to share my extensive experiences (both positive and negative) with members for the purpose of providing a broad view of the many challenges that teachers face every day. In fact, many of my posts are written to inspire and motivate teachers who are at their wit's end. I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with me nor I with them, but the fact that I have received so many "likes" suggests that my comments have some constructive merit. To be consistent, you probably should be equally critical of the OP's original comments that are somewhat negative. May I suggest that if you really don't like what someone has written, why not just skip reading it and move on, instead of throwing an immature spitball. BTW, you're not the first one to do so, though yours is somewhat small in comparison.

    It's refreshing to see a relative newcomer like RaiderFan already so aware of his free speech rights on this forum which is also a hallmark of our great country - now if he would only extend that right to others without prejudice.
     
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  10. BioAngel

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    Yes, a lot of my lessons are from scratch or I blend resources together (and I don't think that is a bad thing - I'm a professional and my school wants my expertise with creating lessons - not just teaching them). I'm just that way with being a teacher. I don't want to buy into a system and be stuck with it - even though my private school has the funding for big programs. I've found that they are often lacking with providing interesting activities or lessons for my weaker/stronger kids and the pacing guide never seems to work for my students. I will buy FOSS kits and I have online science sites that my students access that are paid for, but I don't really follow things step-by-step.

    The other issue is that I know what I'm teaching, but since it is a blend of resources, nothing is officially written down. My husband and I are talking about moving out of state and unless I'm right on the border, I don't think I would be able to survive the commute. So it means that this year I have to put everything in writing in case I do have to leave my school (I don't want to but... that's life). I'm typing every lesson out - step-by-step - and editing all of my resources and uploading them to our curriculum mapping site. I'm talking about a full lesson plan, any hand-outs, all of the assessments, and additional ebooks, games, etc that I've created or found for a lesson as additional resources. That way if I have to share that I'm officially leaving my P won't have a heart attack and I won't be stressed out trying to finish up everything by the first week of June.

    My P is also requiring that over this summer that we schedule out all our lessons and hand in a calendar with that information to her by our first August in-service day. It is fine if we don't stick to the schedule perfectly but she wants us to have a plan of what we are doing when.

    Ideally I'm trying to just get the first unit for each grade finished before I start coaching in mid-August. I was going to try to every unit before then, but I don't think I'll have enough time.
     
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    BioAngel Science Teacher - Grades 3-6

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    This is my current P. I get along with her just fine, but she has screamed at a few of us faculty members. I stay in my room, make sure I keep students and parents happy, and help out as much as I possibly can. Yes, she has added stress to the school, but on the flip side she's made the faculty shape up real quick too.

    This was the P before the current one. I don't think she ever left campus to actually sell a house, but she would stay at school until 7pm or later most nights. It made everyone think she was working hard on school stuff, but I found out she was just working on her side business.

    It was the reason why her secretary didn't mind doing her photography business during school hours - school parents would come in, dress up their kids (taking them out of class), have their pictures taken on campus, and then she would edit and order copies to be made right at her work desk. New P came in and that secretary lasted 1 school year and noped right out.
     
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    Thank you for daring to share your negative experiences with us. Having worked with quite a few school administrators across the spectrum (deep inner-city, rural, suburban, extremely low SES, extremely high SES, military base, special school, consent-decree), both as a teacher and administrator, I've concluded that the unprofessional administrative behavior you describe is the norm and not the exception as some would have us believe. Doubting Thomases who have not had the pleasure of working under a misguided boss have no idea of the scope of the problem.

    The fact that you "get along with her just fine" and that "she's made the faculty shape up real quick too" is irrelevant as far as her unprofessional conduct is concerned - the resulting mental stress to the teachers and the FEAR that she instills in all of you is inexcusable. She apparently has not learned how to use collaborative teamwork to achieve school-wide goals.
     
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    This is yet another example of a principal that rules with an iron fist. Your summer is actually her summer! IMO, it's irrelevant that you don't have to "stick to the schedule perfectly". What if you have been away on a two-month vacation, are working two summer jobs to make ends meet or are recovering from major surgery? Call it what it is. BTW, was this summer duty included in your job description?
     
  14. BioAngel

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    I think-- from what I've experienced-- that things work differently at an independent school. My contact states from Sept 1 to August 30, so yes I can be called in during the summer if I need to and yes, I can have summer work assigned to me too. So it doesn't irk me and it was something I was planning to do either this summer or over the next school year. Not the end of the world and honestly I could get it all done under 8 hours if I did just what she asked us to do.
     
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    BioAngel Science Teacher - Grades 3-6

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    She's learning - she was a teacher, then VP, and now P. She was dropped into a new school community and I remember being in her shoes as a teacher and it had it's challenges.

    And she has done a lot of good, while trying to balance everybody's wants and needs - admin, parents, students, and faculty. If she was as horrible as some of your posts are making admin out to be, I wouldn't be at this school. She has grown a lot when it comes to working collaboratively, but I will say that she has to light a fire under our butts sometimes - some faculty members just slack off and will tell you they did something to your face but haven't done it at all.
     

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