Non-smoking campus

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  1. rachaelski

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    The university where I am beginning my PhD studies, the University of New Mexico, is becoming a non-smoking campus in 4 days. My undergrad was a non-smoking campus, there were 3 different "smoker's boxes" on my small campus.

    As a non-smoker it's nice to know that people will not be smoking around me. However, I know this is an issue that has gotten many people upset, cities having non-smoking in restaurants and bars, etc.

    Albuquerque is a pretty healthy city as a whole, and New Mexico is pretty progressive about various types of pollution (there are statewide light pollution laws, etc.).

    Thoughts?
     
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  3. Jem

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    I understand everyone has the right to smoke, but I def. have the right to NOT smoke, and to not have to inhale the 2nd hand smoke from others. This has become a HUGE issue, as our neighbors smoke on their balconies and we can't keep the doors or windows open for that reason. I can also smell the smoke when I am driving behind someone who is smoking.

    When it intrudes into my non-smoking life, it shouldn't be allowed. And that includes walking around campus in between classes, or out at restaurants, or driving my car or ON MY OWN BALCONY!!!!
     
  4. Blue

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    In Oregon, most public places are non-smoking. People adjust.
     
  5. mollydoll

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    I get instant migraines from cigarette smoke 80% of the time. Some brands are worse than others. I think my right to be healthy trumps others' right to smoke.

    There was a smoking area off to the side by the doors into where I work and the smoke almost always would drift over to the doors. Some days, walking through that quickly was all it would take and I would have to get through work with at best a minor headache, and at worst a full blown migraine with vision loss and nausea.

    My parents both smoked and they always insisted I was a whiny little brat when I would complain, especially in the car. They would just get defensive and claim that I only complained because I saw them light up. Once I moved away from home, I was nearly migraine free. Smokers think that because the smoke doesn't bother them it shouldn't bother anyone else. My parents complained I was antisocial because I would never go downstairs or watch movies or tv with them (the only place in the house they smoked). They would promise not to smoke around me, but it was in the curtains, in the air (even with big filter and open windows).

    The worst is in restaurants where smoke drifts over from smoking areas and stays in my hair until I wash it. Blech.

    I have my own bad habits, but they don't make other people sick.
     
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    Non-smoking campus wouldn't bother me one bit. I don't smoke and smelling smoke from those that do causes my allergies to flare up. It's a good thing. Those that smoke can feel free to do so off campus.
     
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    All public places should be smoke-free.
    All public places should be smoke-free.
    All public places should be smoke-free.
     
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    I agree that public places should be smoke-free.
     
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    I was totally the same way, Mollydoll. Pot smoke is an even bigger migraine trigger for me. My dad and brother still smoke cigarettes even though my sister has horrible allergies, I get migraines, my grandfathers died of lung cancer and heart disease, and the kicker - my mom's doctors told us that they CANNOT smoke around her after her bypass surgery. That lasted about a month. I just can't believe how selfish they are.

    Delaware is completely smoke free in all public places. I love it! I only experienced smoking in bars for about 6 months after I was 21 before it changed, and I love it now. I love how I don't STINK when I come home at night.

    I still hate it when people smoke in front of doors or on balconies/patios where I am eating.
     
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    Amen to that!!!
     
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    Both of my undergraduate campuses are non-smoking..you would think. Nobody enforced it. It was non-smoking inside (obviously) but outside, they all hovered by the door, which made it worse!
     
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    I think at my university you had to be 100 feet from a building in order to smoke.

    *disclaimer* I smoke. But... when the no smoking in restaurants law was passed in FL, I was happy about it. Nothing kills the taste of your food like clouds of smoke floating around it. And even though I'm a smoker, I *hate* going into bars where smoking is allowed. All that smoke in an enclosed area really irritates my eyes. I also hate going to streets fairs and having people pushing around in crowds with a lit cigarette in their hand - someone's going to get burned. That's another reason why I love Disney/Universal - they have designated smoking areas. I also don't smoke in my car if someone riding with me is a non-smoker. I just think smokers could be a little more conscientious about when & where they smoke. And it would be nice if there were more butt cans around - I hate seeing them laying around in parks/beaches.

    But... oops, sorry Jem! After seeing what smoking inside did to my brother's apartment (4 college boys + smoking inside = Oh. My. God. The tar on the walls. The smell in the couch. Ew. Ew. Ew.), I've always smoked out on my porch/balcony - even when I didn't have a non-smoking roommate.
     
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    They are here.
     
  14. Jem

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    Yes! I got burned at the Ann Arbor Art Fair-Holy COW that hurt!!

    A porch/balcony is a fine place to smoke, if you can possibly see that your neighbors aren't out there, or if you only smoke maybe once an HOUR, instead of literally ever 5 minutes. I tried to time it once. I couldn't stop writing the times down, so I gave up. Our balconies are completely private-you can't see anyone on any side, or up/down from you. So they probably have no idea how much it's affecting us. And I can't see who it is to nicely talk to them. Bad situation. (Realtor sent us a new listing this morning.... there is HOPE!!)

    I use to smoke in college. I know how nice it can feel. I know that it's a personal thing, and that you're not really thinking about others when you do it. I just wish I could point out to our neighbor how instrusive it is.
     
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    There are a few college campuses around here that are "smoke free". This usually means that you can smoke in your car, or on some campuses, you can smoke at the "smoker's station" which resembles a bus stop and is positioned at the edge of the campus.

    Either of which is okay with me.
     
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    I wish mine was. I hung out with all smokers and every break we got, they would go out and smoke. The smoke didn't give me headaches or anything, but I hated the smell. I felt I had to hang out with them instead of staying in the room b/c they were my friends.
     
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    I'm in New York, and you can't smoke in restaurants or bars here, and I LOVE it. I would be more than okay with a smoke free college campus. I feel the same way that Jem does- I say that when your right to smoke interferes with my right NOT to smoke, I trump you every time. LoL


    I went to Atlantic City a year or so ago and was disgusted just being in the bars inside the casinos. I wasn't used to people smoking in bars, and the thought hadn't even hit me until I walked in and smelled it, and people sitting at the next little table by us were blowing smoke in my face (not intentionally, but where else do they think it's going to go??). By the end of the night my dress smelled so terribly I wanted to throw up, and I had to shower twice to get it all out of my hair. Horrible horrible horrible. I haven't been back since.
     
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    :yeahthat:
     
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    It really doesn't bother me personally if people smoke in public. Weird thing...my state banned smoking at state university's unexpectedly overnight. I went to one of those state universities, and everyone still smokes on campus. I guess no one takes that law all that seriously...
     
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    The posts talking about how selfish smokers can be remind me of my great aunt. When I was about 7 or 8 I went somewhere with her and other family members. While we were walking out, she flicked her ashes wherever and they landed right on my hand. I complained because it hurt. Everyone acted like I overeating. They were all like it couldn't have hurt that much. She had this attitude of "I've been smoking for 40 years, you're 8. Get over it". Thinking back, I also remember another great aunt. She saw us eating at a local resturant and came in univited with a cigarette. The waiter said no smoking. I swear, she sat there five minutes before saying "You have to finish your food NOW!". Even as a kid, I wanted to punch her in the face. Most smokers are very selfish.

    It's really weird when I see people my age, I'm 22, or younger smoking. I mean all the truth commericals, smoking not being as societially accepted anymore, and the limited places you can smoke.
     
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    This is an incredibly offensive statement. Generalizing any group if people is immature. Most smokers are very sensitive to others. I know many people who go out of their way to make sure their smoke doesn't bother others, by doing things like standing down wind and asking people if its okay. You had a couple of aunts who were total jerks. That's a fair enough statement. To take your experience with them and generalize to EVERY smoker isn't right. A more common senerio is something like this....Recently, I went downtown with three other people. Two of the other people smoked. One didn't. Even though we drove my car, and the non-smoker was seriously outnumbered, nobody smoked during the entire rush hour traffic drive into the city (a little over an hour drive). When we got to where we were going, we found a "smokers corner" and took turns keeping our non-smoking friend company. On the drive back things got really stressful. The drive took twice as long as it should have because a major interstate was closed down. Still, nobody even thought to light up because of the non-smoker (although we did joke about pulling over). I don't know a single smoker who would behave in the manner you describe by your aunts. They are the exception, not the rule.
     
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    Overeating? How does that relate to your story?
     
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    I think she meant overreacting.:D
    Rebel1
     
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    I kind of figured that but it's funny when misspellings are other words....:lol::dizzy:
     

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