NEW JERSEY CERTIFICATION

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  1. lollol9900

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    Hello, everyone here!
    My name is Jen.

    I just joined after searching the NJ DOE websites for 6 hours about certification.

    I go to school in NYC and currently working towards my 2nd Master's degree. (1st - art ed. 2nd - early child ed + special ed dual)

    My school has early childhood and special ed dual program but Early child edu covers from Birth to 2nd grade.
    I will be moving to NJ this summer so I want to be certified in NJ since there is no point of doing NY certification which is 10 times harder.

    I have few questions here.

    1. NJ early childhood has to be PRE-K ~ 3rd grade.
    But my school has an Early child ed prgram from Birth ~ 2nd grade.
    Does this mean I am NOT qualified for NJ certification since we didnt cover 3rd grade?

    2. What exams do I need to take?

    Praxis II 5022 only?
    or Praxis II 5022 + 0022 ?
    Or something else?
    I am confused! :'(

    3. I will have dual degree in Early child ed and special ed.
    I looked through NJ websites and Special ed in NJ does not require test. Am I right?
    Do I just send my diploma + etc and not a single test to be certified?


    Thanks for reading my long long story and taking your time to answer.
     
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  3. gr3teacher

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    1) I can't answer this specifically, but my assumption is that you would be granted the closest equivalent certificate. For example, in NYS, I am certified Elem/SPED 1-6. In Virginia, I am Elem certified K-6, and SPED certified Pre-K to 12. My assumption is that you would qualify for the Pre-K to 3rd grade certificate.

    2) Without looking up those tests specifically, but knowing how Praxis works, I'm assuming that 5022 is an online test, and 0022 is the paper/pencil copy of the same test. You'd only need one.
     
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    I would add that if you take and pass the Elem. Ed. Praxis exams, you will receive a K-6 endorsement. If Pre-K is your thing, then you don't need K-6, otherwise, I would simply get my Elem. Ed. endorsement if you are looking for those grades.
     
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    In NJ, there is the P-3 cert and the K-5 cert. I'm not sure what the deal is with being certified for both. That you would need to investigate.

    You do not need the praxis for sped in NJ because it is an endorsement rather than a certification. So, it endorses whatever you are qualified to teach in gen ed. There is no stand alone sped cert. To teach sped students, you must also be certified in that grade level or subject.
     
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    I believe with the P-3 & K-6 cert, you can't get the P-3 cert if you are certified K-12/K-6/K-8 unless you go back and enroll in a P-3 program. Same thing for K-6/K-8/K-12 & P-3. At least that's what I was told ~2 years ago
     
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    5022 is the computer-based version of 0022, which is paper-based. If you're allowed to take either, take whichever suits you, but take only one of them.

    Praxis test requirements for New Jersey are here: https://www.ets.org/praxis/nj/requirements. I'm seeing 5022 (and only 5022) for PreK-3.

    As to whether your PreK-2 preparation covers New Jersey's PreK-3 endorsement area, you need to ask someone with the state department of education - but, if you pass 5022, I suspect you'll be fine. Still, do please ask.
     
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    However, I am in EARLY CHILD ED/SPECIAL ED program from Birth to 2nd grade.
    So I think there is no need to take elementary exam since I will not be qualified anyways...

    So should I call NJ DOE and ask these questions?

    Will they answer nicely?!

    I have another question.

    Do NJ school principals prefer NY certified teachers? Since NY certification is hard to get?
     
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    To be certified in Elem. Ed. in NJ, you need 60 credits in your undergraduate degree that would be the basics - your entry level courses, some history, science, math, and language arts, the kind of basic courses that everyone has to take and is eager to get out of the way so that they can get into their major. If you have that on your degree, you can take the Elem. Ed. Praxis II exams and get your K-6 certification (It was changed from K-5 to K-6 this school year and all K-5 certificates became K-6 on paper). Any teacher can do this. That is Elementary Education: Multiple Subjects (5001) Praxis II exams. Once again, if you are only interested in doing the younger students, no problem talking with NJDOE and finding out if the PreK-3 is comparable to the ECE you are taking. If you are interested in teaching SPED in elementary, then the Elem. Ed. may be an endorsement you want, but I do highly recommend that you actually CALL NJDOE before taking any exams. No matter what you end up doing, I can guarantee that they are going to want to evaluate your transcripts before moving forward. DOE will be fairly nice, if occasionally brusque, and no, I think you will find that NJ principals may not see it the same way you do, as far as degree of difficulty of certification. If I can be so bold, what makes NY certification so "hard"? Many are different, but I am not sure that equates with hard or superior. The testing is comparable, you may have to take PLT Praxis, my son did, but not sure, still have to have a provisional license, mentor, fingerprinting, same stuff every state seems to have.
     
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    I can't speak to other hoops through which one must somersault, but NYSTCE does test more - most states test basic skills, endorsement-appropriate subject matter, and pedagogy, but New York adds a separate general-knowledge exam for all comers.
     
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    If you are circumventing the certification in NY by going to another state, doesn't that remove something that might be construed as more difficult? Not being argumentative, but curious.
     
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    The Praxis I - which the state doesn't require - but a good amount of state universities in NJ require, is pretty much a 10th grade equivalency exam.
     
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    Praxis I is a basic-skills test: it tests reading comprehension, writing, and basic math. NYSTCE has one of those. But the old LAST test tested, and I believe the new ALST tests, science, social studies, and the arts: that's content, not basic skills, which is a different ballpark.
     
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    I am in the same boat. I currently have my Masters degree in General/special education, which i have earned in New york. However, I am moving to New Jersey in three months. I am curious what test I have to take to become certified. The board of Education website is somewhat confusing. In addition, I am currently enrolled in school for a literacy degree and I am wondering what test I have to take. If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it.

    The document below states if your content is special education, you are exempted from taking the PRAXIS II Subject Assessment/Specialty Area test. I actually don't know what test this is. Is it the multiple content test?


    http://www.state.nj.us/education/educators/license/1112.pdf
     
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    No.
     
  16. Go Blue!

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    OP, I have nothing useful to add BUT, I think Jen (especially if it spelled Jennifer) is the coolest name EVER! :cool: It's such an 80's Baby name; there were always, like, a gazillion "Jens" in school growing up ... Nice to meet another!

    Anyway, good luck with the certification process!
     
  17. taylornathaniel

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    llolol, what school did you earn your degree in. I went to Touro college. What part of Jersey are you relocating to if you don't mind me asking?
     
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    If I am not mistaken, we have to take exam 5001, which has subtest (four separate parts:ELA, sciences, social studies, math). However, we don't have to take an exam for special education since we already have our master degree. If we where currently enrolled in a masters program than we would have student to take Special Education: Core Knowledge and Applications (0354/5354).
     
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    I transferred from NY to NJ. All I had to do was apply for the certificate online - no tests at all. There were a few back and forth about what fees to pay, but it was insanely easy.
     
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    How long was that physteach? A matter of fact, where you already certified in NY? If so, I can see why that process was easy. Just spoke with a Board of Education representative, and she stated anyone with a K-6 degree are required to take exam 5001 (Subtest 01,02,03,04). For special education, a particular exam is not required for an endorsement in that field. Wow, I can't believe the testing requirements for both states. A total differences. However, the process of becoming certified in New Jersey will become somewhat difficult also. Starting September 2015, new testing requirements will be implemented. Anyway, i just signed up for the 5002 exam (ELA), which I take on the 17th of this month. I want to get this over with ASAP.
     
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    It was this past October and I was certified in NY (as I'd gotten my MA there, it made the most sense).
     
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    That explains why the process was so smooth for you. I cant believe how easy it is to become certified in New Jersey compared to New York. The new state exams are a challenge in New York. There's even a test that cost 300 that requires a case study and a video of you teaching a class. In addition, four more test that includes sub test for the multi content. That's pretty much 7-8 test.
     
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    Hello all, I have a question about the praxis test score report at the end of the test. There are several numbers that appear and I am not sure if it is the actually score, or how praxis grades the official score. Below is an example of what I've saw at the end of the test. If possible, can someone explain these numbers below which are not my actually score?

    5002 Mathematical subtest: 158

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    5002 Science Subtest: 152

    Physical science: 19
    Life Science: 17
    Earth Science: 25
     
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    The subtest scores are just that - a breakdown of how you scored in each area.

    5005 is science - with 159 being passing in NJ

    5003 is math - with 157 being passing in NJ

    https://www.ets.org/praxis/nj/requirements
     
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    The score that matters for whether one passes a test or subtest is the scaled score. If memory serves, Praxis 5014 is a single test, not split up into subtests, so one passes or doesn't pass the whole thing. Praxis 5002, in contrast, is a single subtest within Praxis 5001 along with 5003, 5004, and 5005, and each subtest gets its own separate scaled score. Since none of these subtests has more than 80 multiple-choice questions, and since teacher tests as a class give one raw point for every question correct, I infer that any three-digit number you saw next to a subtest heading is a scaled score. Scaled scores for Praxis tests and subtests are on a scale from 100 to 200, as a rule.

    A test or subtest typically covers more than one domain. 5005, the science subtest, follows typical science tests or subtests for elementary teachers in covering the three domains of physical science, life science, and earth science. 5003, the math subtest, also has three domains: numbers and operations, algebraic thinking, and a grab bag of topics in geometry, measurement, data, and probability and statistics. Praxis reports raw scores for the domains - for these subtests, the number of multiple-choice questions in each domain that one got right. Your official score report for each of these subtests will also show these numbers plus information to help you gauge how well you did in each domain compared to other test takers. Since a test or subtest is scored as a whole, however, it turns out that a dismal performance in one domain doesn't necessarily equate to not passing the test or subtest as a whole.
     
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    Praxis 5014 was the Elem. Ed exam in NJ, but was switched to 5031 with subtests. Now, if you are still working on passing all of those, you must complete that series by September, 2015; if not successfully completed by that date, the applicant will be subject to the current requirement, which is for 5001. Both 5031 and 5001 consist of the four subtests, with the domains as laid out by TeacherGroupie. I believe that you can now take the subtests one at a time, if so desired, however, I believe that originally with the 5031 you had to sign up for all of the tests on the first day, and then could sign up to retake any of the subtests you didn't pass, individually.

    An interesting observation, when 5031 came online, there was very little study material available specific to the test. Many teachers continued to study from the 5014 material and practice exams, doing very well. I have no information about any correlation between 5014 and 5001. I suspect that the concept of the subtest is to break the test down into smaller chunks for test-takers, allowing them to study specific information without having to show proficiency in all of the material on any given day. Certainly it allows the makers of the tests to be more specific in the quality and quantity of questions asked in each category, allowing for better data analysis, perhaps? I see pros and cons of each format, but I am grateful that the need to pass these exams is no longer something I have to worry about.
     
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    5014 just reports a single score at the top, at least when I took it in 2012. Then on the last page, it shows a breakdown of the score by subtests (LAL, Math, Social Studies, Science)
     
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    Subtests per se aren't such a new thing in the Praxis program, but subtests categorized by content within a licensure area have been much more prevalent in Pearson tests.

    Chances are the 5001 series is also more Common Core-compliant. In practical terms, this means that one can expect reading and literacy concepts on subtests that aren't, on the face of it, reading/language arts.
     
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    Thank you for the information. I am currently enrolled in a Master program for a Literacy degree. What test do i take to be a LITERACY teacher. The staff at NJ DOE wasn't sure. In NYC, I have to take the Literacy exam (CST 065). With this degree I can be a pull out teacher and do one one one or small group teaching. I am not sure what kind of teacher I can be in New Jersey.
     
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    Sounds like it might be equivalent to NJ's Reading Specialist certification?

    Here's the requirements - see if your program/degree fits.

    http://www.state.nj.us/education/educators/license/endorsements/3310S.pdf
     
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