Multiple Subjects CSET recommended for Education Specialist Credentials!

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  1. AspieTeacher

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    Hi guys,

    I am hearing through the grapevine that you are permitted to take the single subject CSET Health Education if you are working towards your credential as an Education Specialist with Moderate/Severe Disabilities. I also heard that some districts will not allow this test to be used as subject matter competency for the CSET. Your best thing would be to pass the three part CSET (Multiple Subjects Test). It's a very difficult test, but if you study hard and try your best you can beat this. I have a lifetime credential from another state, but I was still forced to pass all three sections of this test to obtain my Clear Professional Credential. I'm grateful that I have already passed the requirements for this test. It's really sad that California is making it harder and harder for dedicated teachers to get their foot in the door to help students with disabilities and general education as well. Thanks for allowing me to share my side. If you were wondering (Aspie) is a special nickname given to us with Asperger's Syndrome (mild autism). I am a teacher of special education who has been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. It just goes to show people that when you work hard for something, it's worth the trial and effort. :crosseyed
     
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    AspieTeacher, this time I'm not sure I'd blame this one on the state. The Commission for Teacher Credentialing, at http://www.ctc.ca.gov/credentials/leaflets/cl808c.html, states pretty clearly that a special education teacher may satisfy the subject matter competency requirement EITHER with CSET-MS or with a single subject CSET (and it's not clear from the leaflet that it matters which). Here's the specific language:
    So the demand for CSET-Multiple Subjects may very well be coming from districts or even county offices of education that, for whatever reason, haven't figured out what to make of this. Or perhaps some districts prefer to have special education teachers who could be redeployed under No Child Left Behind in multiple subject classrooms in the (admittedly unlikely) event that there's a drastic drop in the special ed population.

    In any case, I'm sorry this is making problems for you and your colleagues.
     
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    teachergroupie

    It's not required for meeting the state competency requirements, but districts are very picky and they do require the Multiple Subjects Test before they'll even consider an applicant. I'm grateful that I took the Multiple Subjects Exam instead. I want to make sure that i'm doing the right thing as well. Thanks for understanding!
     
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    That's a good thought, but I believe SpEd teachers get a SpEd credential, so in order to go teach general education multiple subjects, they would need to get a gen ed multiple subjects credential. No?
     
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    Back when the test was MSAT, Special Ed candidates could get the Liberal Studies waiver, but many were being rather strenuously encouraged to take MSAT anyway, and the rationale seemed to be that this made them deployable in a regular ed classroom and therefore more marketable. I wouldn't expect that rationale to have gone away.
     
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    I am also a sped teacher in moderat severe and back in 2001 I took the health scince SSAT in place of the MSAT cuz LAUSD told me that was very acceptable and I had no problem getting my credential with that, Now with the @#&*# NCLB I am having to go BACK and tack the CSET-ms. So the CTC said the single subject was fine, but NCLB thinks otherwise
     
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    I am a special education teacher with a clear multiple subject and my sp. ed credential. I was a liberal studies major and had the waiver. Since I did a dual credential the university that I attended held onto my reg. ed credential until I finished my sp. ed. I found out after the fact that I shold have appled and now I am having to take the CSEt. I can't pass the math/science. I have taught k-3 for so many years that this has been a real hard struggle for me. I am taking it again on Satirday the 5th of Nov. I have missed it by 2 points and can't seem to close the gap. I listen to everyone that has passed the first or second time and my hats off to all of you. I will keep plugging away and hopefully one day I will pass that section too.
     
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    218? Oh, I'm sorry. That's so close that if you pick up on more multiple choice question or add one point on a constructed response, you're probably done.

    With time so short, your best bet is probably to see if there's any terminology you can pick up from the Subject Matter Requirements document, especially if you've been coming up a little short on Purpose or Knowledge in the constructed response questions.
     

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