Most Secure Administrator Job?

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  1. jmemoirs

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    Okay, so I'm currently a Substitute teacher in Southern California.

    I'm starting a program that gets me a Masters in Education, as well as a Moderate/Severe Teaching Credential in a year. A lot of work, but I'm ready for it.

    When lay-offs happen, I know it's the Arts teachers who get their pink slips first. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. Besides it being something I really enjoy, I'm particularly enthusiastic about a Moderate/Severe credential because Special Ed teachers have a bit more security than others do due to demand.

    But the reality is that teachers don't have a great salary. Now, after a few years of teaching, I'd like to enter an Administrator's credential program.
    What administrator positions have the most security?

    Should I aim for anything in particular? Audiologist, school counselors, speech pathologists, program specialists, etc?
    I'm looking for job security and better salaries than teachers.

    What has your experience been?
     
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  3. Caesar753

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    It has not been my experience that Arts teachers get the axe first. From what I've seen, it tends to be programs that have low enrollment, which could be anything from AP Physics to orchestra.

    As for the rest of your post, I'm a little confused. Are you thinking that school counselors, audiologists, and speech pathologists are "administrators"? They aren't.
     
  4. jadorelafrance

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    Those specialist positions you listed don't generally get paid more than teachers. They're usually on the same pay scale as teachers, but since they have to have a masters or doctorate, they may start at a higher salary than teachers with a BA.
     
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    That's true that specialists receive salaries that are similar to those of teachers. Unlike classroom teachers' roles, these specialist positions do not require the specialist to work with a lot of students during a class period or block on a daily basis. This is one benefit of being a specialist.

    Although administrative positions, such as assistant principals and principals are on a higher pay scale than those of teachers and specialists you should be aware that administrators are required to work more months than teachers and specialists are.

    With the question of job security for administrators, it varies from district to district. Some superintendents keep the same principals year after year until the principals retire, transition to district level, or make a career change. Other superintendents repeatedly decide that they want to replace the principal with someone else.
     
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    I am confused. Do you want to be a teacher? I am sorry, but teachers teach, if you are already planning a career outside of the classroom, that is odd to me, maybe another field?
     
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    Plenty of people go into teaching to go into administration...
     
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    Yes but the positions consided by the op aren't admin
     
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    True, but I guess I'm not sure if they want to go into admin or specialist. For admin, you generally have to start off as a teacher for at least a few years. A specialist doesn't necessarily need teaching experience and is generally another field in education.
     
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    In my area, speech paths and psychologists are on a higher pay scale, but not considered administration. Honestly, if the reason you are going into an admin job is for job security or more money, it might not be the job for you.
     
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    I think Assisstant Principals, Pricipals, and Superintendents are of equal security. From this board, it sounds like there are plenty of incompetent administrators in jobs just like there are incompetent teachers. In my personal experience, it seems like administrators are more easily fired than teachers. I know of many administrators whose contracts were not renewed but not as many teachers in the same boat.

    I think teaching sped is more secure as it takes a special person to teach those with special needs.
     
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    Don't go into sped because of job security. It's a tough job, and, contrary to popular belief, it's not tough because of the students. If you're not truly passionate about it, pick something else to do. Even if you are passionate about it, you might still want to pick something else to do. In my district, sped teachers and related administrative staff were the first ones to get laid-off this year. No one is safe.
     
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    Yep!

    We are at-will employees; therefore, we never earn tenure (in CA, at least).

    If you're thinking of getting into admin purely for monetary reasons, know that you'll also get a lot of extra grey hair, have long days/evenings, and deal with a lot of other bureaucratic mumbo jumbo.

    That being said, I really do love my job! I work alongside some amazing teachers.
     
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    Principals get tenure in NJ. Supes do not. As a tenured classroom teacher who has earned a good reputation and continually is rated as highly effective, I don't worry about job security. The extra responsibilities and general year round schedule of an administrator doesn't offer either more security or enough of a salary boost to be attractive to me at this point. I still love being in the classroom.
     
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    I know this was just a typo but it still made me giggle. :)

    My administrator might make more than I do but she more than earns every single penny. Whew, boy.
     
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    Damn auto correct! I fixed it! LOL.
    My admin doesn't make significantly more than I do. I'm at the top of our salary scale with masters plus 60.
     
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    OP, whatever job you choose, it shouldn't be because of salary or job security because you just never know. Yes it's true that special ed teachers are more in demand and seem to have more job security, but if your heart is not in it, you're going to be miserable. I could never be a special ed. teacher, I don't care how much they pay or whatever would be promised; it takes a special person to do it and I just don't have it in me.
    The same thing with everything else, you could becomes a speech pathologist, thinking you won't have to worry about being laid off, and bam!! things change and major cuts are being made.

    If you choose a job you really want to do, things will fall in place. Of course it's wise to add on endorsements to keep you safer, but that's just a back up plan.
     
  18. jmemoirs

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    Hi guys!

    Thank you very much for the replies!
    I should've specified the I was interested in both administrative and specialist positions, as well as teaching

    Salary and job security are not my primary motivation, but they're certainly a factor.

    I adore being in special ed classes, but I always like to make sure I have all doors opened
    The years I build upon as a teacher may make me realize that I have the potential of working at an administrative level and offer better support and insight to students and the school at large.
     
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    Frankly, I think that those who begin their careers already thinking about administration are the wrong people to do it. The only people I've ever wanted to work for - and the only ones who have my absolute respect - are the people who never thought that they would the leave classroom and then ended up being called to go on to do something more. Anyone getting into administration early in their careers for the purposes of advancement, security, and salary are doing it for the wrong reasons, and those aren't the people we need doing it.

    You say that your years as a teacher "may" make you realize that you have the potential to be an administrator... That's true. They may. But why start worrying about that now? Go on and get your degree and begin teaching first. Then see what you realize you're meant to do after that.
     
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    After 22 years in the classroom, I'm actually willing to take a pay cut in order to be a vice principal. And work 30 days a year more.
     
  21. Sarge

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    But to answer your question, probably principals who are good at their jobs. The least security would go to principals who are not good at their jobs.
     
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    And good at their job, means completely at the whim and opinion of the higher ups and is subject to change at any time without notice.
     

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