Lost Preps

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  1. Bumble

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    I'm going CRAZY as the days go by. Every week I lose at least 3 of my prep periods. There are some teachers who haven't had a prep in 2 weeks straight! We were told we will get written up if they catch us sitting down. How can they expect us to stand all day without sitting? Obviously, our lunch period is an exception. I don't even know how to approach this. How should I approach the admins? Should I just go to the union instead? :dizzy:

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  3. ecl

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    I actually never sit down when I teach. However, I would not want that option denied to me.

    As far as the prep issue, does your contract state that you are entitled to receive one daily? If so, are you paid for the lost preps?
     
  4. MsMar

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    Um, I don't get the sitting down thing. Do they mean at your desk doing nothing? Cause surely you can sit and read a book to the class, right?

    Sorry about not having your prep time. How come you don't have it? What does your contract say about prep time?
     
  5. Shanoo

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    I would look into what your contract says. Our prep time is written into it and they can't take it away from us. They can ask, or we can offer, but it can't just be taken.
     
  6. Emily Bronte

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    In our contract, it specifically, states that we get prep. When we don't get it, it is a union issue. But, quite honestly, our admins are not bothered by whether or not we get preps. It only becomes an issue at contract negotiation time.
     
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    Our prep time is guaranteed in our contract. Sometimes, however, things happen and we don't get that time. Perhaps we are needed to cover another class, we get called into a meeting or the teacher who has our class during our "prep" time is unavailable for one reason or another. If we miss a prep, we need to record it in a binder in the office and it will be paid back. Sometimes, the pay-back is given by a sub who has a free period and is looking for something to do or, on occasion, the principal will bring in a sub strictly to pay back missed preps.
     
  8. Bumble

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    We can't even sit down to read a book to the class. My contract states that I am granted a prep every day. If I lose it, I must be paid the daily rate. We switched Principals midyear, so I am nervous about receiving the payback that I deserve.
     
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    Welcome to my world. We are supposed to have 50 minutes of prep daily. However by the time we have to have EBIS meetings on Monday, grade level meetings and other meetings that they call or the specialist is absent (they don't get subs for absent teachers or specials) I MIGHT get 2 days a week of prep time if I am lucky. Notice I said MIGHT. Most of the time 1 and we don't have a union here.
     
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    Not sitting down is in violation of your contract? I have never heard of anything like this. Where is your union? Do you work for a private school? There are laws that say workers must have a break after so many hours on the job. Check with your state to see if your school is adhering to the law. My contract states that I must have a duty free period every 4 hours. Even if I have a delayed opening or a half-day of school I still get a 25 minute prep period.
     
  11. Proud2BATeacher

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    I only get one 1 hour prep a week and if the teacher who is suppose to give me my prep is away, then I don't get one. She usually kicks out at least 1 student each week that I end up being stuck with.
     
  12. Aliceacc

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    I don't understand that.

    If it's HER class, and she kicks a child out, isn't that child still HER responsibility?

    I think you're making it too easy for her. Stop being the Enforcer, and let her take care of HER class the way YOU take care of YOURS.
     
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    I know... At my school teacher's are not suppose (but our classes would be a zoo if we didn't) to have to deal with severe behaviors as we have hired "counselors" to do that, but the counselors are inexperienced. My counselor who attends this class is clueless. My prep teacher won't touch any behaviors and my counselor cannot leave the room with one student and not be there for the other students... What gets me is that the teacher who gives me prep has been a classroom teacher in my school for 2 years, so she knows that she has to step in for the students to follow directions:dizzy:
     
  14. gottagoodgig

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    I worked at a school where it was "not appropriate" to sit. I think it's a bunch of garbage. Being a good teacher and standing is not a direct correlation. The more I sit, the more I'm engaged with small groups of kids. I'd say that is far more effective, in my experience, than standing just for the sake of standing.

    At my current school, I sit when I use my document camera. I sometimes sit (and mostly stand) when we use our Smartboard. I sit down with teams of kids when they are working. I sit during center time when I do guided reading and assessments. I sit when my low kids are pulled to my kidney table and I offer extra support. I sit when I read stories to kids. MOST OF THESE EXAMPLES HAPPEN EVERY DAY! (I VERY rarely sit at my desk though....like a half dozen times a year...) There are PLENTY of times when I stand, walk, dance, etc. Sitting doesn't mean that you are NOT working. It's ridiculous and insulting to treat a professional this way. If you are an effective teacher, you should be able to stand, sit, or do cartwheels. Whatever it takes! I'd check with your union. Sorry to hear about this!

    And, we are also guaranteed a 45 minute prep DAILY and a 40 minute "duty free" lunch. We also get "double planning" one day every three weeks. We get a "work day" with no meetings once a quarter. We also get one full day to plan as a team once a year. Check with your union about that too!
     
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    Wow, do they realize that you are adults? That phrase just sounds so petty and childish. I'm sorry you have to deal with that. I would contact your union if I were you.

    I'd be really upset, because that no-sitting policy goes against a lot of research-based teaching practices, like guided reading groups, pulling small remediation groups, interactive read-alouds, etc. :(
     
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    I am sorry about you losing your prep. I have two to three preps a day, and I need each of them to get all my work done. Tday I lost 1 prep because of an asembly, and last week I lost both preps in one day for a special event, and I can't imagine that being my normal, everyday schedule. I would go crazy.

    As far as you not sitting...what?? Ok, I do not sit when I teach (even when I read I am usually walking around the room), but there have been a few times when I am extremely exhausted, or feeling ill and have to sit down for a few minutes. But, I would never like to be told I absolutely cannot sit. That just doesn't seem right.
     
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    I have prep time from 7:15-7:40 and from 2:10-2:30. I also have a 50-minute duty-free lunch.

    There are several times (throughout the day) when I need to sit down at my desk. Attendance is submitted electronically (I guess I could stand up over the computer while I'm submitting it?) and we have lots of communication via email. I must get at least 12-15 emails each day from admin, grade level team members, parents, and others. My principal expects us to respond quickly, so I need to sit down at my computer to type a response. There are other times when I sit at my desk (while I'm checking in homework, entering grades or other data, etc).

    If I need to sit down at my desk to catch my breath for a sec, I wouldn't want to be nervous about admin "catching" me! I'm so sorry that you're going through this!
     
  18. chebrutta

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    Wow. I sit down when I take attendance and handle paper work at the beginning of every class. I sit down during writing conferences. I sit down while reading aloud to my kids (unless I need to redirect someone without disturbing the class). I stand up at the board, the overhead, during a lecture, or if I'm wandering around checking work. That's absolutely ridiculous.

    But I also lose several preps a week - conferences and meetings are usually scheduled during our preps, because they have to give us comp time if we stay after school for them. Our preps are *also* considered duty free and some people are starting to rock the boat on this one (there was a two week period where I had a meeting/conference during prep and after school EVERY. DAY. FOR. 2. WEEKS.)

    I'd check with your union about whether or not your preps are duty free... and check with your union to see if you truly are contractually obligated to STAND while you're on the clock.

    :hugs: to you.
     
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    Ugh!

    At my school our preps are usually ours. I don't think that our preps are duty free, but the general consensus among admin, teachers, and the union is that preps are ours to do with as we please. Every now and then administration will ask us to cover a class that doesn't have a sub, but they always pay us extra for that time.

    As for getting in trouble for sitting on the job, that's just bizarre to me. There are times when I sit and I see nothing wrong with it. I take attendance and do general 'housekeeping' type paperwork at the beginning of class, I respond to emails, I have mini student conferences...all at my desk. I wouldn't deliver a lesson from my desk, of course, but that's about it. Often even during student practice work I'll be at my desk, particularly when the activity is something that I know they can do. [I find that students act a lot more helpless when I'm nearby. They forget easy vocabulary words and stuff like that when I'm walking around and they attempt to use me as their walking dictionary. It seems like they remember a lot more stuff on their own if asking me a question means they have to actually walk 15 feet to my desk.]
     
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    Isn't this discriminatory? I mean, several teachers in my building have leg and hip problems. They have to sit. I didn't realize that I am a better teacher if I am standing. :rolleyes:
    I have a stool I sit on in front of the class when we are reading a textbook.
    If we miss our prep period, we are paid for supervising our students during a time when we should have been released from this duty.
     
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    I sit all the time with my kids... when I'm working 1:1 with a student... when I'm doing ABA-type "training" with a student and need to be at eye-level... when we're at circle time and talking about who's here and what we're doing today and singing songs and talking about stories... when I'm leading snack time so my kids need to ask for the things they want to increase their communication... when we're playing a game or doing an activity as a group so we can learn to wait, share, and take turns... when I'm building towers or roads or bridges in the block center... when I'm helping kindergartners use magnets to practice their developmental spelling... when we're rolling playdough to practice shapes...

    yes, I stand, too... but to preschoolers, a standing adult is an intimidating adult. They need people to be at their eye-level so we're not so scary.

    No sitting? Rediculous.
     
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