List of Words for After School Detention

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  1. leisurej

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    I'm trying to put a list of words together for my kids to have to look up and copy the definitions of during After School Detention. Any suggestions...
     
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    Is that the only activity you'll consider having your detention students do?
     
  4. kcjo13

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    Would it be more beneficial to both your and the students' time to do something math related? Like factoring, or listing prime numbers from 1 to 1000, or some other mundane math task?
     
  5. Aliceacc

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    Well, you could do math words:
    factor, multiple, prime, composite, even, odd, positive, negative....


    I've had kids multiply their phone number (wtih area code) by their zip code. The next time they come back, they have to check by division. They seldom come back.
     
  6. leisurej

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    I was going more a long the lines of by showing the student that his free time is just as valuable os my instructional time.
    However, I do see your point, I could use this as an instructional moment. I'll have to think about it...
     
  7. Mrs. R.

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    Please, please, please do not use writing as a punishment. Kids are already resistant to writing, and when teachers use copying definitions or "lines" as detention work, that only makes the situation worse. Have you seen copying lines in detention help Bart Simpson? He has new lines every week! :)
     
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    My 4th grade teacher always threatened to make us copy the definition of "run" out of the unabridged dictionary. We looked it up, saw the length, and decided none of us were ever gonig ot earn that punishment.
     
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    I agree with Mrs. R. - please don't demonize the use of the dictionary or make kids hate writing any more than many of them already do. If yours is a math class, assign math problems to practice.
     
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    I would NEVER teach during a punishment. I never speak or even give eye contact to the child. They write an apology letter to me or copy word from word from a dictionary.
     
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    I always have students clean glassware or other lab materials when they stay for detention. After a geology lab one time I had a bunch of jars that were filled with mud and made them wash it all out. Word got around to the other students and no one wanted to get stuck with the same job. Worked great, and I didn't have to do the dirty work!
     
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    This has gotten interesting. For those of you that think writing should not be used as a punishment. If so then why should they practice math as a punishment?
     
  13. leisurej

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    Do you put a length on the letter?
     
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    Let me preface this by saying that I'm in a very traditional Catholic high school. We're college prep, and by the book.

    Dean's detention in my school is designed to be a waste of their precious after school time. It's not a learning experience, other than learning that the rules DO apply to each and every individual.

    Our kids spend an hour copying something. Yesterday it was an article on the Stock Market Crash. ( I read it. It was actually very interesting.) I'm not sure about today's selection. They come in, sign in, and begin writing. An hour later they stop.

    Yesterday, in a school of 2,550 kids, I had 27 kids in detention. (In the early years, we had close to 90 every day.)

    They don't like it. That's good. They're not tempted to do something which will bring them back.

    I honestly don't think it has anything to do with whether or not they'll hate writing. This isn't an original essay. It doesn't require any creative juices. It's more akin to taking notes in class than to "writing" since most of the real "writing" they do is typed onto a computer.

    I can see the argument with elementary aged kids. But high school kids have already pretty much decided which classes they love and which ones they don't. I don't think this has anything to do with it.
     
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    My feeling is the punishment should fit the crime. Back in the day when it was against our school rules to chew gum, repeat offenders scraped gum off of the furniture. Kids who waste my time (I sound like Mr. Hand from Fast Times at Ridgemont High) make up the time doing something for me... shelving library books, etc. The only time they do writing in detention is if they are writing a letter of apology, which, I think is different from copying from a dictionary, or finishing missing work.
     
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    Our students copy out the section of the student handbook that they violated. The teachers in the little grades paraphrase it for them and then they copy it and the older ones do it word for word.

    Repeat offenders have to come in on a Saturday with the principal and do tasks around the school for her.
     
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    Agreed. Then they'll hate math.
     
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    I don't necessarily think they will.

    I've given classroom detention: multiply your phone number by your zip code. When I've mentioned it to classes (for example, if I'm subbing in someone else's class) inevitably some kid asks if he can do it too. They think it's fun, or a challenge.

    It's not like this is a daily thing... if it is, it's a bigger problem than an occasional detention.

    I don't think our kids are all that fragile.
     
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    I think that detention should be more service oriented. There are always jobs that the kids can do to help the school and that will also make them think twice about committing future infractions.
     
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    Again, I disagree :)

    I think you should do service because it's what you should do, not as punishment.
     
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    At one of my previous schools, one of the teachers was known for the most boring detentions ever--the kids did nothing. They rarely re-offended; they were shocked at how long half an hour is.
     
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    We have a before school detention and when they first come in, they write why they're here, why it was a bad choice and what would be a better choice. We put it in their file. Then, for the rest of the time, they sit there and stare at the wall. They HATE it.
     
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    You people seem to be "demonizing" this teacher's attempts at discipline. They are not using writing as punishment... I mean, when coaches discipline players in sports... they don't *not* make them run, cuz they're gonna hate running (and therefore not run during the game?) That makes no sense at all.

    They aren't "writing". They are copying. And *I'm supposing* the point of the assignment will be to have them do some mundane work, AND maybe learn the value of the word by osmosis. I don't see anything wrong with that (as a discipline measure).

    It's not like she is making them write while shooting live ammo over their heads or something (thereby creating a negative connotation I would guess). It's a discipline measure; and hopefully, it'll make them not do it the next time.
     
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    Running isn't mundane work... it's beneficial to the end goal of becoming a better player.

    I don't see what's beneficial about writing words out of the dictionary.
     
  25. John Lee

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    Running isn't mundane? Hmmm... I guess that just depends on your perspective.

    I don't know what they might learn from writing from the dictionary. It's not my exercise.
    I imagine that learning the meaning of a word could be huge for someone, could be nothing for another. They also could learn to make a common correlation between a set of words (e.g. thoughtful, considerate, kind) that would benefit them. I don't know.
    My point was that it seemed that people were criticizing this teacher's choice of discipline, which I didn't understand.
     
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    The problem with school work for detention is that it teaches children to see schoolwork as a punishment and many will (or allegedly will) translate that feeling of punishment to all homework.
    Then you could make the same argument about cleaning tasks and cleaning in their own homes
    Not sure what I'd do for detention. Might depend on the individual student
    *My gym teacher used physical activity as a punishment and that's why I hated gym and didn't participate any more than I had to. She'd do things like have us try to hit the volley ball over the net and if we didn't get it on the first try, we had to do 10 jumping jacks (even though we didn't have practice hitting before that) I despised all gym classes because I found that an incredibly unfair practice and I was stuck with that lady for 11 out of 12 years. I hate even seeing people do jumping jacks now
     

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