Let sex organs!

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  1. Milsey

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    Let's talk about sex organs

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    They're everywhere! In the texbooks, on the desk. I can't spend every day doing this. I told my classes I don't appreciate it and it's basically pornography and that anyone I see drawing will be recommended for a suspension. Yesterday, one of my students brought me her textbook. It says turn to page 78 at the end of the story we're reading and there was a man's penis , and this child is 12. She doesn't need to see that.
     
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  3. czacza

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    Seems as if you need to precheck all books before putting them into kids hands. Require that kids have no writing tools if not necessary. Recheck all books after reading.....


    Or you could photocopy class sets of required reading.

    Or check out laptops for online versions of your texts...

    Then, more closely monitor what kids are doing.:thumb:
     
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    This.
     
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    There are over 600 pages in my class textbook. I have 36 books out for my students to use in class. I have four classes.

    I would never be able to check each page in each book in between class change.

    My copies are severely limited.

    We have 20 laptops to serve 500 students each period.

    And I don't know how I could more closely monitor my students' behavior when I am expected to do the 1000s of other thing with them and for them.

    None of the above suggestions would work for me.
     
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    These are hard to do. I thought about not passing out pencils while we read, but we always have a warm up which requires writing and do other things. We actually pass out pencils, although a lot of our students bring their own. In most schools students have their own writing utensils. so that's even harder to control.

    Most textbooks are hundreds of pages. I couldn't check each book after each class. Interestingly most students who write in books would do it on the pages we're working on, or in the front / back inside pages. Even still, that's a lot of checking.

    Monitoring students... yes, but they can't be monitored 100 % of the time. They can be very sneaky, and even though you're successfully monitoring 5-10 students, what about the rest of them?
    You can narrow down which students may have done it, as long as you have a seating chart and at the very least you check the books at the end of the day. Even then you have 5-7 students to choose from, and you still don't have proof :(

    I don't have an answer, and although we don't have a huge problem with this, it is there sometimes.
     
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    (the post I was responding to disappeared, but anyways, this would be my solution)

    Well, this type of drawing is more serious than any kind of marks or even tagging. If it happened, I would announce how serious it is (at our school kids would be written up for sexual harrasment and they would get in BIG trouble).
    Normally I scare them. I tell them that whoever it is I catch - and I will catch one person at least - will be the example and I will blame every single drawing on him. I know this sounds wrong, I kinda of say it half serious even though the situation is serious, but they usually get how big of a deal it is. After that they stop.

    The first step is to check every single textbook and erase what you can, or stop using a book that is permanently damaged. Then tell students they have to check the book each time and tell me if there is anything, so they can't be blamed. (the problem is that they won't have time to check hundreds of pages)
    And then monitor students as close as possible, especially those who already had a book with drawings, but you couldn't tell who they were.

    This is not foolproof, but a step in the right direction.

    added: if it continued, I would make copies of each story from the textbook. I would make one class set and each class would use the same one. It's easier to check those few pages. This might not be feasable if you have limited copying access, and it's a lot of work you have to do, but you might not have any other choice.

    Our texts are not online, and laptops might not be available for every school. It's also a lot of hassle to distribute, check out, check in, what if it gets damaged, etc. Then I'd rather make the copies.
     
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    Well, my textbooks come with pictures of penises, so additional, albeit poorly drawn ones wouldn't faze me too much ;)

    As far as writing in the texts, honestly, I just chalk it up as one of those things. I can't control students putting gum under the desks either.

    I did have a time where erect penises seemed to be showing up a lot. I noticed it one day, then the next and decided to look around for other 'art.' Before playing detective I made an announcement to the class. Something sarcastic and snide, pretty much making fun of anyone that would need to have such pictures around them all the time. The drawings stopped immediately.
     
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    My point exactly.:thumb:
     
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    Maybe I've been in middle school too long, so I've become immune. Drawing on desk? Hand child a wipe. Drawing in book? Hand child an eraser. Drawing in pen? Hand over the white out.

    I have 35 desks, 12 sets of textbooks, and 5 groups of kids. Multiply that by 21 years.

    Yeah, I'm not going to die on that hill.
     
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    Is there a way to assign particular textbooks to each student? Even if each period shares books that could at least narrow down the "suspects"?
     
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    For me, that isn't practical either. I would have to constantly monitor students to make sure they are using the correct book. Plus, my students get up and move from table to table. They would have to take their books with them as they go.

    I could see assigning a book to a desk if students sat at independent desks. Have a big number on the spine that matches the number of the seat. But my room isn't set up that way.
     
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    Yep. They'd get a write-up, too. But I am not thumbing through thousands of pages daily.
     
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    That's what I was totally thinking. Assign each kid in each period a number. So, if book number five had a lovely drawing in it, you knew it had to be kid number five in the one the earlier periods.
     
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    I've always done this. That way they know they have I'll be accountable, so they always get the right book. If someone else has their book and writes in it, the person to whom the book is assigned will pay for it.
     
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    Exactly.

    Who has time to pre-check each textbook before each class period?
     
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    Can you not assign textbooks to each student? I have to confess, I don't have this problem. I'm wondering if it's because they each have their own book for the year.
     
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    I had that problem a few years ago. Penises drawn on everything. No definite culprit, no definite reason... just drawn on everything. Just white them out of the book.
     
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    What a great job for parent helpers!
     
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    I see a couple of possible solutions to improve accountability.

    If you have enough books to assign one to each student, that's obviously the best option. Most still come with a place for student names, so have them write their names there and let them know ANY damage or graffiti found in the book will be their responsibility. If someone else draws in their book, it's a pretty safe bet the kid is going to report it as soon as they can to let you know THEY didn't do it, but if you let them know they are still responsible for it, then THEY have the burden of finding out who wrote in their book.

    If you don't have enough books for every student, then I like the previous suggestion of assigning a number to every student in every class and students can only use the book with their number on it.

    This requires only a small amount of time to set-up. The books will already be numbered, so you just assign numbers to each student for each class based on where they are sitting the first day or two, then record the names of all students that are "Number 4", etc. This way, every kid who is assigned "Number 4" knows they will be the ones responsible if something happens to book Number 4. So if something happens to that book, then (again) they will be the ones trying to find the culprit.

    It may not be a perfect solution, but it assigns accountability with a minimal amount of work on the teacher's part and recruits all the students to help find the person(s) drawing in the books.
     
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    These are middle schoolers correct? They are responsible enough to keep up with an assigned book in class, whether they stay in their desk that day or are moving around in groups. It might take some extra work upfront to number the books, assign the books to students/specific desk, and then have the students look through the book and note any drawings, but it will help curb the drawings in the long run.
     
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    Some things I have tried:
    Putting a humorous light on the sketches and drawings of previous years and winking and telling them that I KNOW they would never be as immature.

    Putting whiteboard dots on each desk so they can get their doodling out there in erasable dry erase marker so whatever they do draw can be erased easily. Only problem is that they're peeling off now...

    Keeping a close eye out.

    Sending home a textbook quality form with each student and having them and their parents sign it for the class set and their personal sets, so I know how each textbook started out, and they have a greater sense of responsibility for it. (I can point to the textbook quality form, and mention that it doesn't say there was a male sex organ on page 34 here...)

    Last year I had one or two students who could. not. stop. drawing male genitalia. Freud would have a field day. This year, it hasn't happened at all, and because of our talks at the beginning of the year, there seems to be a much deeper sense of maturity and concentration on learning. It's been great.
     
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    Hahah had the urge to like this :p
     

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