Let License Expire?

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  1. ChildWhisperer

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    When I first graduated from college, I got my paraprofessional certificate (my BA was not in Education). A few years later, the state converted all certificates to licenses so mine was automatically renewed for another 5 years (so I've had this license for 8 years now). I also started grad school around that time to get my Masters in Ed (which I have now).
    Well it finally expires this year.
    I've never used it and don't think I ever will, unless i want to go backwards in my career.
    Should I let it expire?! Or renew it just in case?
     
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    Several years ago I had to make the same decision. I was going to let mine expire because I thought I was finished with teaching. I renewed it just in case and then my life took me in a different direction and I ended up using it for five more years.
    So, just in case, if it isn't too expensive, I would renew it. Life has a way of changing things for us.
     
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    If you ever did decide to take a para job, would you really need the separate license or would the teaching license cover you? We don't have para licenses in my state, so IDK how that works, but it feels like if you had a teaching license/more than what was required, you'd be covered.

    If you let it lapse, would you have to do more requirements in the future to reinstate it (i.e. take classes or something), or just pay to get a new one? If all you have to do is pay, I'd let it expire and just pay again if you ever need it.

    Personally, I can't think of any circumstance in which I'd want a para job, but of course you may feel differently.
     
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    I think that a lot of good suggestions have been made so far. Personally, I would renew this license because I just never know if and when I would need this license in the future. I have a couple of friends who once had licenses fields such as education, medical assisting and physical therapy. They regretted that they allowed their license to lapse because when they wanted to return to the field, they had to complete a lot of paperwork and fulfill new requirements. They never thought of the possibility that the state would add new requirements even for applicants who once held the license. It would have saved them a lot of hassle if they would have just renewed their licenses instead of allowing them to lapse. This brings me to another issue--you just never know if the state will add new requirements, which would then make it a hassle to try to apply to get a new license.
     
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    If it's cheap and easy to renew, I'd probably do it. If it was much of a hassle, I'd let it expire.

    I have a teaching license in another state I'll probably let expire soon. I can't really justify the money for a "just in case" scenario.
     
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    Good questions. I'll have to look into it!

    Thanks, everyone. Good points made!
     
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    If you had to jump through any hoops to acquire it, then keep it. The one thing that you can usually count on is that the requirements only get more stringent over time, so if it was needed, it would take more effort to reacquire it. Don't know how expensive it is, though.
     
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    Nah, it only required me sending in my transcripts to prove I had a BA (because you only need 60 semester hours of college to be a parapro in my state) and $$$ :p
    I just have to pay a fee to renew it now.
     
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    It's a valuable credential........I'd keep it renewed until you're done working.......


    Or win the powerball!
     
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    Is it though?! A paraprofessional license?! I don't know if I'd go from "Teacher" to "Teacher's Aide".
    I'm still thinking about it :p I have until the end of this month!
     
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    Since its a "license" and not just a certificate, I'd think it would come with a certain level of pay, perhaps more than regular para pay? I don't know, but a license is something I'd to try to keep even if you never use it, it'll be there just in case as others have suggested. Who knows, you might want to be a para in your retirement years just for the check! Lol
     
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    I did the same thing with my home state's license. Definitely not worth the money for something I'm 99% sure I won't need. I'd rather end up paying for it/jumping through whatever hoops when/if I actually need it rather than paying for something I don't need.
     
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    That's true. I might want to be a para when I retire for extra money!! I have a friend doing just that. She retired from a non-teaching job and is now a para.
    All the certificates in our state were converted to licenses so everyone has a license now.
     
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    Pennsylvania lets you put your teaching certificate "on hold," so the clock stops on the countdown to your renewal date. I don't know what state you're in or what other states permit that.
     
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    A word of caution for NY teachers. DO NOT let your license expire unless you are really sure you want to leave teaching. NY (and other states) have put in place an expensive, time consuming requirement called EdTPA. I know two teachers who got in before it became a requirement and then were very surprised when they left teaching for a few years, let their license expire, and were confronted by this expensive, time-consuming requirement.
     
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    I've heard about a looming teacher shortage nationwide, but NOT in New York State. I could be wrong though. I do think the EdTPA is a little unfair, but the reason I can't see NY nixing it is because we have so many certified teachers in this state already. In sum, NY seems to be just doing fine---but who knows!
     
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    I do know that my grad school MAT program (a SUNY school) has seen a drop in enrollment in the program by nearly 50% since I started in 2010. Add to that many teachers looking to retire and something has to give somewhere.
    I also think NY is unique in that there are many jobs available in the inner cities in the five boroughs, but upstate and Long Island is a different story.
     
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    Makes me glad I’m fully certified to teach high school and middle school maths in the state of California. I’m done with licensing nonsense.
     
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    Haha, whoops. I slipped into one of my Britishisms. I think it should be maths because it is the abbreviations for mathematicS. Though, I draw the line at aluminium. That word sounds hideous to me.
     
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    I've thought about that too. I do know that a SPED cert makes you very marketable in the state if you're thinking about multiple certifications, although I know that's not a good fit for everyone.
     
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    That may be true in NY, but it's not true everywhere (I'm not sure if you were only talking about NY or not). I've gone from gen ed to sped, back to gen ed and then back to sped, and now back to gen ed. I was certified in both from the very beginning (did a dual-cert masters program). My sped cert has definitely opened up more opportunities for me than a gen ed cert alone, but it has never stood in the way of me getting a gen ed position.
     
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    I've heard that a lot, and I was honestly worried about it when I was looking for my very first teaching job. I assumed that I'd have no chance at gen ed, given that I was sped certified. However, as I mentioned, I've never had difficulty getting a gen ed job when I wanted one. In fact, one of my principals told me that she was shocked that I wanted to leave for a sped job and that she didn't think I'd like it.

    I can see how some people might get forced into sped in areas with high demand and low supply of sped teachers. I just think that stating it as a truism everywhere can sometimes lead people to avoid getting sped certified out of fear that they'll be stuck in it... and this lack of sped certified teachers is how we got into this issue in the first place. I think it can be a very beneficial certification, and it doesn't always mean that you'll get pigeon-holed into a sped job if you don't want it.
     
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    I get that. And I'm not sure that I'd recommend getting it unless you're at least willing to teach it. That said, I think similar things can and do happen in gen ed. For example, my first year teaching, I was hired for third grade (which is exactly the grade that I wanted). Then, a week before school started, I got moved to kindergarten because I was certified for it (I got moved back two days later, but that's beside the point.). I was devastated and scared because kindergarten was my absolute last choice of grades/areas to teach, out of all that I was certified for. I've heard of first grade teachers getting moved to fifth grade when they didn't want to go. I'm not disagreeing with you that the sped thing can happen. I'm just saying that it doesn't always happen, and that it can happen in gen ed too. I don't want someone reading this board to think that sped certification is a death sentence everywhere, that's all.
     
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    I have a Social Studies cert in NY, and I have worked as an instructional TA. I have actually gone on interviews for Social Studies jobs where I was told that I should go back and get a dual cert. in SPED. I totally understand that Social Studies jobs are difficult to come by in NY state, but that's what I chose and where my heart is.
     
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