Landing a teaching job

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  1. Carebear05

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    I don't understand it but it seems like finding a teaching job comes so easy to some people and so hard for others. This is my second year trying to find a teaching job. Last yr I had 4 interviews. One I was screwed on because the principal already had someone else in mind, one I wasnt that interested in and it probably showed, one I was up against like 10 ppl, and the other it was between me and another person and she obviously got it.

    I have had 3 interviews so far this yr. and have one tomorrow. I have already gotten rejected for one. I'm starting to give up. I feel that my interviews go well and I don't know what else I can do. I have great references, good experience, what else is there? Sometimes I wonder why I even bother showing up for an interview because I always feel that someone else is going to get it over me because of experience. I had a great interview on Tuesday but the principal told me he was interviewing like 8 people which made my confidence sink. I hate feeling like this but I really don't know what else to do. Sorry to vent so much but has anyone else ever been thru this? Does anyone have any advice?
     
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  3. Mrs.Gould

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    I know exactly what you are going through. I am in the same boat as you. For me the worst part about it is that I had my dream job for only one year then my position was cut due to declining enrollment. I've spent this year miserable and anxiously waiting for "hiring season". After 5 interviews and one more today, I'm still stuck without a job. I am waiting to hear back about one, but I don't have a good feeling. The interview today is really my only hope!

    I understand your need to vent. I do it a lot as well. It is such a rollercoaster ride. One day I'm confident and positive that something good will happen. The next day I'm down in the dumps and agonizing about not having a teaching job for another year. My only advice to you is to try to stay as positive as you can. God does have a plan for you (and me!) and although we don't know what it is or when it will happen, we have to trust and believe that it will. Easier said than done, I know.

    So on that note, we both have an interview today. Let's go in there confident and knowing that we are "the one" for the job! Best of luck to you. Let me know how it goes!
     
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    Please let us know how the interview went carebear05 and Mrs Gould. It is so difficult to find a teaching job, BUT if you give up you will never find one. GO in upbeat and smiling, telling yourself as you enter the room that this interview will be your last and you will be offered the position. I know how frustrating it is, many of us have been in your position. Good Luck today and keep searching if this does not work out the way you want. It is only June, schools hire through mid September.
     
  5. always question

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    Understand

    I taught for 6 years, and then took off 3 years due to cancer. This last year I was hired on as a preschool teacher, with the understanding that I would do this for 1 year, and then be transferred to KG. (Preschool teachers are NOT contract teachers, and make less than 1/2 the salary w/fewer benefits.) Around Winter break, my principal asked me to leave my classroom and take on a new position as a "Literacy Specialist," working w/KG students who were not up to benchmark. This was made out to be a promotion, but ended up STILL being only "classified" (not contract), plus I had to travel to 4 schools!

    Anyway, not knowing what was happening for next year, I arrived in my "old" classroom on Monday, only to find that another teacher had moved in, and all of my supplies were boxed up in another area. I immediately questioned the Princ, and she said that I was on the "short list" for KG, and that she "looks forward to seeing my application and scheduling an INTERVIEW!!!!" WHAT????? So, what if I don't "get" a KG job? They've already said that there is less enrollment than last year...and she's already hired 3 new teachers! Well, she doesn't want to put any "licensed" teachers in PS b/c she can't pay us what we're worth. OK...shouldn't that be MY decision? I mean, having a job that pays 1/2 salary is better than no job at all!!!!

    I'm just really frustrated, too. When I go out to look for open jobs, there really aren't many at all!!! Where's the wide-open job market???

    My thoughts are with you! Hope the interviews went well!
     
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    I understand your frustration! In my part of the country...northshore of Massachusetts, there are usually 100 applicants for 1 position. You could be qualified up the ying-yang, but unfortunately, it sometimes comes down to who you know.
     
  7. Mrs.Gould

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    always question - I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. I really can't believe they hired someone else for the Pre-K position without first speaking with you. Can you go back to the Literacy Specialist position? Hopefully this will all work out for you!
     
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    I just found out that the principal where i did an LTS job this year, who is being fired, is interviewing for the same position I was in before her last day on June 30. I was told by the Sped teacher that I'm not on the interview list that she will be sitting in on. I'm furious...after all the hard work I did this year.
     
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    There is a huge misconception that getting a teaching job is easy.

    The fact is it is quite difficult...especially in certain parts of the country.

    You really need to do everything you can to get an edge on the competition...

    I have written about seven different articles now that are designed to show you how to get that edge.

    You can read all seven of them here:
    http://teacherinterviewtips.com/teacher_interview_articles.htm

    Hope you find them useful.
    :)
    --Adam
     
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    I agree with you so much Carebear05! I too am in my second year of looking for a full time teaching job. I have gone from being so positive to being negative and try so hard to stay out of the negative attitude and believe that there is THE school for me! I've done what everyone else had done and called, etc but it doesn't go anywhere and I don't know what else to do either.:(



     
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    always question- that's horrible! You're right, it def. should be your decision. I know my friend was searching for a teaching job last yr. and didnt get one so she applied for an aide's position. She went thru an interview with the principal and THEN the principal decides to tell her she's too qualified for the job. Im kinda like ok wouldnt you want someone too qualified rather than someone who isnt qualified enough? Like you said..it should be your decision!

    I think what gets me the most is that most people that I know that I graduated from college with got a job right out of college. I am currently pursuing my Master's degree and it's been like hell trying to find a job. I'm not saying that people right out of college are not qualified, but I feel that first of all I have learned so much more in my grad. program, and I feel that the fact that I want to become a better teacher should mean something right?

    My interview today went well. I mean I always feel that they go well. The one good thing is that I student taught in the county so I know how the county curriculum goes and I made sure I stressed that many times! One question she asked me about was how I felt with SPED students in the room. Well I worked with High Needs kids this yr. and my thesis topic for grad. school is inclusion, so I'm really hoping that meant something for that question. We'll see how it goes I guess. I am positive I did well, but at the same time I always wonder how well other ppl do too.
     
  12. Mrs.Gould

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    carebear - glad to hear your interview went well! Mine isn't until 2:30. I prefer morning interviews so I don't have to wait all day! Were you told when they'd be making a decision?
     
  13. Carebear05

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    She said she hoped to make a decision by the middle of next week. But I may not hear until a week or 2 because the assistant superintendent may be out of the office or something. He is the one who contacts the person who gets the job. Otherwise I have to wait a few weeks to get a letter that I don't want. I'm going to email one of the assistant principals at the school I worked at this yr. to see if she would be willing to call the principal and put in a good word for me. Hopefully she will!
     
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    I wish there were 100 applicants per position in my area. I was told that in my neighboring district there were 500+ applicants for one elementary position last year. I have a friend whose dad works in admin, which is how I found out. Of course this is the best paying district in the area.... But, I am betting this year is worse since there are all kinds of layoffs going on in my area.
     
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    I've heard there is about 500 applicants MINIMUM in some areas of Michigan here and upwards to 1200 in others! YIKES!
     
  16. njeledteacher

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    I honestly don't know why so many people go into teaching knowing the statistics, how lowsy the pay is, and how stressful it can be. There are other options if you really love to work with children. I myself probably would not have chosen to do this if I knew it would be so hard to get a regular position.
     
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    CareBear05, glad to hear your interview went well--things are looking up!

    Njeledteacher, I'm graduating next spring and already I'm wishing I had went into a different field. I'm looking into alternative job options because I know finding a regular teaching position is going to be tough. I just hope other professions will welcome my education degree.
     
  18. Carebear05

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    Well I really never knew it was hard to find a teaching job because growing up all you heard was how badly teachers were needed. Plus, while I was in college I never heard of anyone having a hard time finding a job. It wasn't until I started looking last yr. that I realized that. I didn't quite understand it tho because as I said, people that I graduated from college with most of them found teaching jobs right away. Altho, it could be because of where they're from too.
     
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    it is all in WHO you know

    Believe me...I KNOW how you all feel. It took working as a T.A. and LTS in the same building for two years to get to KNOW the teachers. THEY went to bat for me with a new principal coming in and she listened and hired me. In my area, 5000 people applied to the district and they hired 100. I feel like all of the principals hired who they know or who another principal has suggested. Do not be afraid to take TA positions for year or get on the LTS list....especially for pregnancy leaves. Sometimes the teachers don't come back at all and you have already worked in the room. It is very hard to wait for your own room, but each small step can be something on a resume! Good luck everyone!!!!!!
     
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    Oh yeah, wouldn't you love to kick the college stories about their being a shortage of teachers? Those baby boomers are NOT retiring early! The world is too expensive for that! :)
     
  21. Carebear05

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    Exactly. When I tell or my parents tell people that I had a hard time findin a teaching job they are shocked. Like you said they always hear about there being a shortage of teachers. I then have to explain to them that in this area there may be a shortage of secondary math and science teachers, but not elem. teachers. I don't think that people understand that the majority of people who go into education go into elem. education.
     
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    Oh, definitely! The reason I switched careers to go into teaching is that I kept hearing what a shortage of teachers in the near future there was going to be...what baloney!
     
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    The fact that many think teaching jobs are easy to find is a huge misconception.

    And, it is not just elementary jobs that are difficult...secondary social studies and language arts are both very difficult jobs to secure as well.

    BTW, for those of you posting on this thread...are you having problems with the interviews? Meaning...you are getting interviews, but no offers OR are you having difficulty even getting the interview in the first place?

    --Adam
     
  24. Carebear05

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    I've worked to get my interviews. I mean have been very persistent and it has gotten me 4 so far. I don't feel that I have problems with interviews. I mean I was told at a job fair that I interview well, and my interview on Tues. I was paid a lot of compliments by the principal. I feel that I answer questions to the best of my ability. I am still waiting to hear from some places.
     
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    I think that if you get an interview at all you should be very proud of yourself, especially in this job market now. As many have said before, some positions get numerous applications. Positions here usually have about 500-1,000 applicants and only about 5 of those actually get interviews. Just landing the interview is the biggest hurdle. Then hopefully you impress enough to get that job or at least your name passed around the district. Good luck all in your job search! I'm with you!
     
  26. Carebear05

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    Well I'm not sure how many applicants there are in this area. I mean I'm sure it's quite many but I live in the country so I know not as much as big cities do. But it's still hard to land an interview esp. in the district I wanna be in. I thought it would be easy since I student taught there and currently worked there this yr. as a parapro, but not really.
     
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    since Elementary jobs were so hard to find I went to Special Ed. I always thought I would never switch. Now I am wondering why I didn't do it sooner.
     
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    Yea. Well I know SPED jobs are easier to find because they are in such a high need of them. I'm just afraid that if I did that I wouldnt like it. Not to mention I'd have to go back to school again and I am just finishing my Masters and I'm sick of school for the moment.
     
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    My advice would be get into a school system doing something---if you can afford to be a TA or sub. A lot of schools hire from within. Unfortunately, I was a TA, but didn't get a job and after a while, just had to leave my TA position (that I loved) because I just couldn't afford to do it for another year. Now I'm out of the school system entirely and doing something else for work.

    It can be tough and disappointing----hang in!
     
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    That is about correct. This one position was only posted for 3 days and attracted 500 applicants. The positions that are open for 2 weeks or so will get over the 1000 mark. I like it when they have early deadlines!! As long as I catch it in time that is!
     
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    I am in the same boat you are in. I did a full year LTS this year-3 different science preps. I did interview for a new position that was added, but it went to a sub who had only been there for 8 weeks (1 prep)!! And I gave her many resources and ideas, since we taught the same class. Was told I did an excellent job this year, they couldn't be happier with my performance? What gives?

    I feel so used and discouraged by the whole experience.
     
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    Sorry to hear about that. I don't know what gives. It doesn't make sense, especially if there's nothing negative to bring up. It's politics at its best.
     
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    Adam,

    I bought your interview handbook. Would you be willing to critique my cover letter or resume? I'm a career changer and so I didn't have all the teaching experiences to put into my resume like you did. I've just sent out 25 resume packages to Principals and applied to 5 ISD's in the past week.

    I have had one interview at my son's school. I landed that before I started formally applying because I ran into the Assistant Principal of the school. There were dozens interviewing for a 4th grade position. I was actually interviewing for a kindergarten position that may come open. I looked at it as a great opportunity to practice.

    I'm letting the Principals know in the cover letter that I'm in an alternative certification program, because I don't want to be called by Principals that aren't interested. Even though interviewing is great practice, it's also very stressful. In order to interview, I must take my 3 children to a daycare that costs $16.00 an hour. So, I figure each interview will cost me about $32.00.

    Thanks,

    Sheri
     
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    If you're open to relocating, look south.
     
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    Hi Sheri,

    sent you a pm.

    --Adam
     
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    Carebear, I wanted to move to Va. because I heard there are so many teaching jobs there. Have you tried the Teachers-to-Teachers web site? http://www.teachers-teachers.com/
    I am on their e-mail list and this morning there were about 10 different school districts that were advertising for elementary positions.
     
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    I've already been offered a job. There are many teaching jobs here, but they were not in places that I wanted to teach. Most of them are in the Richmond area, the VA Beach area, or the Northern VA area. Oh well, my search is over!
     
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    That's great!!! I wish I could say the same.
     
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    I know exactly how you feel! I am a career switcher - have a Bachelor's in business and went back while I was staying home with my kids and got a Master's in elem ed thinking I would find a job quickly. I could have worked in the school that I student taught in, but we are military and ended up moving right after I finished. So I am a new teacher, new to the area and military ... no one wants me! Ok, I can find a job, but only at the "difficult to work in" schools. I took a job at one of these last year (which was further from home than I wanted also) and it was very hard year. If my kids were older it would be different, but I need to be available for them and I was so stressed and working so hard and driving so far ... it was just really hard. I got a good recommendation out of it, but that plus one year experience doesn't seem to be enough for getting hired in my district.

    Where are you in Virginia?
     
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    I live near Lexington, VA so I am out in the country-Shenandoah Valley to be exact where it is VERY hard to get a job.
     
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    Carebear05 - Congrats on the Job!
     

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