Kids that never crawled as babies...

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  1. Danny'sNanny

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    This week in my Educational Psych class, we learned that children that never crawled as babies tend to have lower reading scores when they get to school, and that making them crawl now could help them. My brother never crawled, and he's having trouble now (3rd grade). Have any of you ever tried making older kids crawl? Did it help?
    Thanks!! :)
     
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    I don't know about making older kids crawl but know a little bit from a brain research class- the crawling thing is about making cross-brain connections, buildng synapses across the corpus collosum. Try some brain gym activities, look online for activites which require crossing the midline.

    http://www.braingym.org/

    http://esl.about.com/library/lessons/blbraingym.htm

    http://www.specialchild.com/archives/ia-052.html

    http://www.shrewsbury-ma.gov/schools/beal/readiness/finemotoractivities.html

    http://gigli.tripod.com/therapies/midline.htm
     
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    I never heard of that but I had a girl in my class last year that had this. She couldn't sit much, preferred to stand. Couldn't sit on the floor, always arched her body. Made what appeared to be uncontrolled body movements, especially neck movements. She, however, was brilliant and her comprehension was not at all affected. She was extremely sensitive and in her own world. She sort of pranced around on the playground and could create magnificent animals and dragons out of wax. Truly a unique girl.
     
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    My son never crawled until after he walked. He loves to read and reads several grade levels above his age. He also is GT and can out-think me! He consistently scores the highest in his grade on the state mandated tests. Just a bit of info. I was curious when I read this thread because I had never heard of this. :)
     
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    Well, to clarify, he never actually crawled, it was not worth it after he learned to walk! LOL. But he did walk before attempting to crawl.
     
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    I have not heard about not crawling affecting a child's reading ability but I have worked with Occupational Therapists who say that it could affect a child's fine motor skills. They say crawling helps build upper body strength and children who don't crawl have a harder time sitting up straight or even sitting for prolonged periods of time as they tire more easily when they are older if they do not participate in activities to build up their muscles. Toddlers use large body muscles to perform simple tasks. As they grow they have better control over their body and are thus better able to perform skills in a much more refined manner, using their smaller muscles and exerting less energy when performing these skills.

    It was neat to watch them have children lay on they stomach and prop themselves up on their elbows. I have seen children not be able to hold their upper body up for even couple of seconds and all these children had major fine motor difficulties..
     
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    I hadn't really ever heard of it before...Jasper doesn't really have trouble sitting up or anything like that (sitting still is another story :) ) He just has some problems with academics. I just thought of him when my professor mentioned this and wondered if it could help. It really is an interesting idea...
     
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    My little cousin never crawled and she is on the honor roll at her school...in the 7th grade, and reads two levels above her peers so I don't buy it.
     
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    Just a question, why on Earth would you want to make an older kid crawl around? I would be willing to bet if you told a 6 year old to crawl, they wouldn't just lay there like a dead fish. I'm pretty sure any older child could do it without being "taught" how to. I just don't get it.

    I guess I'm thinking like what AChanceToTeach said...it's not rocket science...after you walk, crawling really isn't a huge deal.
     
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    the only way I can see having an older kid crawl would be in one of those tube-things like at Chuck E. Cheese, the tunnels in the air that have different capsuls to look out of.
     
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    Hehe, education and statistics never fail to amuse me. Just because there is a relationship between two things does not mean one causes the other.
     
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    My kids are older now but I clearly remember my doctor asking me about my kids crawling. They both did. When I asked my doctor why he asked he said because there was a direct relationship between crawling and reading. That was 18 years ago so who knows!
     
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    My gifted 15 year old son didn't crawl--and he had the 2nd highest average in his school for grade 9 last year! He is a talented athlete, has always read above grade level, and learned grade 11 and 12 skills in his grade 10 computer class this year.
     
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    This sounds like (with out going to the links. But like the brain based learning conference I went to last yr. It was an awesome conference.
     
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    Crawling involves the arms moving over the midline of the body. It exercises a part of the brain that is involved with reading. So there really is a connection.
     
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    i have read that the right side of the brain is developed by physical exercise and the creative arts, and that the left side controls linear thinking. The book I read (I think it was entitled Drawing From the Right Side of the Brain) stated that developing the right side also improves the performance of the left side. It makes a good argument when school districts try to eliminate art, music, and physical education in order to save money. I believe there is some validity to this. However, my daughter never crawled and she read when she was four and was a gymnast with incredible upper body strength, so I conclude that crawling may be necessary for some people and not for others.:)
     
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    I didn't know there was research on this. I'd like to learn more!

    Both my brothers never crawled, and are highly intelligent. They never had trouble with reading. Both almost had prefect scores on the SATs. They both excel in different sports too!
     
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    There's an interesting article on this on Answers.com: http://www.answers.com/brain lateralization. Early research suggested that the brain is fairly rigidly lateralized in more or less the ways that the first edition of DRAWING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BRAIN assumed, but it seems to be more complicated - and interesting - than that.
     
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    Let me say this, hopefully without making people mad. If you rely soley on science you are ignoring history. The one thing we know about science for sure is that is correct now, but many times changed later. Dont eat fatty foods. Do eat fatty foods. 5 servings of grain. 10 servings of grain. Im not saying your should ignore it. But realize that the real world is not a labratory and there are many counter examples. Take it into consideration and go from there.

    Look at education research. One study will contradict another all the time. Don't look at a students background because once you do, you will stereotype them and that is what they will become. Another states that you need to know the kids background so you know what to focus on, be ready for, etc.
     
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    You most certainly did not make me mad. Thanks for posting, you took the words right out of my mouth:).
     
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    But by looking at some of those sites it seems to me it's not just crawling, but getting the kids to exercise both sides of the body. I mean if the kids are getting exercise w/both sides then aren't you doing what the crawling is for???

    Bobniborg...you didn't make me mad either. Look at some of the people into their 90s do you think they ate fat free stuff...not in a million years...lard & all that stuff "they" say is bad for ya!!
     
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    My school does SMART gym activites in kindergarten classes. One of the activities they do is crawl on mats that have the letters on them. As they crawl, whenever their hand touches the letter, they have to say it and the sound it makes. They also do a lot of spinning, ball activities, monkey bars, etc. I think it really benefits some kids and others really don't need it. I'd like to send some of my first graders to do it though. :)
     
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    I have heard of this... I had a class in college about it and we had some workshops at school. In my class, we were assigned a child to work with and had to come up with activities to help them develop better fine motor skills, cross the midline, etc. I'm surprised if someone in the education field has not heard about this research.

    In reference to reading, a child must be able to track from left to right in order to read a line in a book. Kids who have trouble crossing the midline have more trouble reading. If you have a student with this problem point to the words as they read, you can see them use their left hand to point to words then switch over to the right hand once they hit the middle of a line.

    I'm sure it's possible that if a child doesn't crawl, he can still go on to do great things. The problem arises when the child who doesn't crawl never has the opportunity to make up for it in other activities. You can incorporate midline crossing activities into almost anything you do. It doesn't have to be silly. I remember a teacher who worked with kids by going up and down stairs, making sure they alternated feet. It was also an easy way to spot kids who had a problem.

    I remember discussing this also with an OT who worked with kids on handwriting. She had noticed more problems in recent years since children are not placed on their stomachs as often due to SIDS. Lifting themselves up from their bellies is a precursor to crawling. The muscles that are developed in the forearm, wrist, etc. when a baby crawls are important for handwriting.
     
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    Just to make sure our terminology is aligned with all those teacher tests: crawling is on the belly, pulling oneself along with elbows and hips; if the kid is up on hands and knees and moving from the classic "Daddy, play horsey" stance, technically it's creeping. And, no, I didn't make this up...
     
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    Okay, using TeacherGroupie's definition, my son did "crawl" he didn't "creep".
     
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    My first child never crawled....she just got up and walked all the way across the floor one day without warning at 8 months old! And now she is in first grade and is reading on a 5th grade level. She can certainly crawl now, but never used it as a baby as a means of getting from one place to another.
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    Right, it is the cross midd-line activity that stimulates the brain that babies need at a crucial time in their development. The advent of more and more hours spent in car seats, jumper things, walkers, strollers, swings, on their backs as opposed to on the tummies, has affected this. People used to often simply put their babies down on a blanket on the floor. When fewer moms worked, there was more opportunity for babies to play on the carpet (theoretically), and less time in the car. Even socializing was less formulaic and couples with young children got together in homes and the babies were on the floor or in play pens. TV and computer screens for toddlers just exacerbate the problem.

    One suggestion is to incorporate cross-body movements with songs in the early grades. This was all from a great workshop I attended but, unfortunately, I can't remember the name of it.
     
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    Actually around here it is the other way around. Creeping is on the belly and crawling is on all fours. I thought that was how it was everywhere actually.
     
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    The La Leche League Web site that czacza posted has this:

    "Mimic your baby's movements - stretch head up, crawl on belly, creep on hands and knees, roll over, and sit up."

    There does seem to be a fair bit of variation in usage on the Internet, but the standard usage, at least on the West Coast (and possibly driven by the old MSAT exam) seems to be that crawling is on the belly, creeping is hands and knees.
     
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    My best friend's sister is a child psychologist and there really is a lot of research out there about children who don't crawl and there successes in school later on. My nephew crawled for all of 10 minutes before he was running. He struggles in school. One niece crawled forever before she walked and is now a wonderful student. Is it because of the crawling? I don't know. It's an interesting thought, though, to make the connection from motor skills as a baby to their academic success.
     
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    No, Grammy, I don't. It is an important thread, but you don't have to read it.
     
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