Julie Amero

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  1. Mamacita

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    Is anyone else following Julie Amero's case with horror and sympathy? The blogosphere is trying to raise money and help her.
     
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    Sorry, I am not much of a news reader. Who is Julie Amero?
     
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    She is a teacher who was sentenced to 40 years in prison because the computer in her classroom (she's a sub) had porn popups because one of her students accessed a site that was porn in disguise. Check the details on my blog.
     
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    I thought her sentencing was March 2. She could get up to 40 years. Has she been sentenced yet?
     
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    You are right, Kinderkids. But things aren't looking too good for her at this point. This is yet another instance of a teacher's career and life being destroyed because an administration doesn't understand the complexities of the internet. I think it is shameful on the part of the community and the administration there.
     
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    Can teachers refuse to have computers in there classrooms?

    I just read this case. This is really terrible. I think this was handled very poorly. Ihope the conviction gets thrown out.

    One question I have.......can teachers refuse to have computers int here classrooms? I think it woudl be nice to have one for yourself, but not students to surf the web. Stuff that like happens .....and I don't want to spend my time policing it, nor do I want class time spent on surfing.

    Any thoughts?
     
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    Having computers in the classrooms is not an option in our district. Tech is built right into our curriculum and we are all expected to teach computer use at all levels and to allow students access to computers for research.

    However, our computers are "blocked" from sites such as those mentioned earlier. I wonder if her school had blocks on theirs? And if not, is there any accountablity on the part of the district?

    I hadn't heard of their case before now, but my heart aches for that poor woman.
     
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    Another thought--is there anything we teachers in America are doing (or can do) to support her?

    I feel hurt to see this happening to her, and I would hate to have this case set a precedent in case things don't turn out well for her.
     
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    I think that is a good idea. I don't really understand it........and it almost feels as if she is being made an example of.

    If there is anything we can do.....we should do it. This could be any of us, really.
     
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    We are required to have computers in our classes, to take attendance and use Gradespeed over the internet. The kids are very crafty about getting around the Websense or web blockers. They use every proxy known to man. They even use them in foreign languages like Turkish to try to outsmart the system.

    That poor lady. Seems like she should get a good defense and remind the admin and court that if more than one person has access to a computer, anything can be on there!!
     
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    I understand about this being a harsh sentence.....but, devils advocate here.......why didn't she turn off the computer or throw a coat or SOMETHING over the monitor once she knew this was on there. Supposedly she was computer "illiterate", but is there no common sense? Wouldn't one instinctively do something to cover up the screen rather then sitting through an entire class period leaving it visible to all the children!
     
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    There are several links on my blog to places where this issue is being discussed; if you prefer, I can post them on here.

    Julie had been told, in no uncertain terms, NOT to turn off the computers under any circumstances. And who among us knows how and how quickly we might react in a similar circumstance? By the time we realized what was happening, it would be too late to prevent the kids from seeing it.
     
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    Mamcita, do you know if there is a place to get the court transcripts on this case (if that is available). I have visited many different sites and keep seeing DIFFERENT testimony. One of the places I checked said she was using the computer to find hairstyles. So that contradicts the other side of it that said she didn't use the computer. I'd like to see all the "facts" as I don't know how to separate fact from fiction on this one. :(

    And 40 years?? My bet is she WON'T get that sentence! :eek:
     
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    This is awful. It sounds too horrible to be true. Under no cirmcumstances should she get any jail time.

    I don't think that refusing to have technology is the answer. The answer is educating teachers and students about technology. More computers is the answer not less.
     
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    I don't know about actual court files; are such things public? I thought it was a student who was looking for hairstyles and got porn instead.

    Many porn sites give themselves names that make people think it's something educational, you know. Think of "whitehouse.com." Whew.

    It's very easy to just 'happen' onto an inappropriate site, thinking you're going to tour the President's home or find some cool hairstyles, and once a porn site is accessed, it's difficult to leave because of the popups. This is one of many reasons why young children must be carefully supervised when they're surfing.
     
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    Our computers in our school have blocks on them. I can't even access this forum at school. The computer blocks most sites. It is very frustrating. Once you try to access too many sites, it will then block you completely for one hour because of pop ups. My principal claims that the school board has assess to view what we are viewing on our computers. I don't know if this is to scare us from trying to go to a site we shouldn't or if it is true.
     
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    Julie's school system had let their firewall license expire.
     
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    Then the school system should be the ones under fire, not Julie. It's the school's responsibily to have that firewall running and not hers to stand guard over the computer every minute (how many other children are there in the classroom that she was watching over? what if something would have happened to them because she was standing guard over the computer?)
     
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    Twice when I was searching on line for something, porn sites jumped up. I am not sure how it happened. Once I had googled Donnie Darko shirts to buy for my daughter, and the second time, I was looking for side effects of an antihistimine. Both times really raunchy sites just popped up! What is scarey is that it could happen to anyone, including little children!
     
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    a few years ago I was going onto espn.com but I accidentally typed in espm.com and it took me to some bondage porn site. I haven made the same mistake again so I don't know if it is sill porn.

    The sad thing is that any child could make the same mistake.
     
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    nope, I just tried espm.com and whitehouse.com and neither are porn sites anymore. Thanks goodness.
     
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    That is aweful. It is so easy to come across porn sites without intent. Most gamer sights are heavy with those popups. And it is animated ads, and very graphic pop ups. I had one site (at home) using my old firewall that threw at least 20 porn pop ups. I have an excelent pop up blocker with my new firewall on my computer and can now avoid most. Those game sites include those targeted at tweens and teens.

    I had a problem when I was student teaching. Someone hacked into weather.com and took over the sight with a adult site. I was lucky enough to check the site right before I showed it to the kids. I closed the browser and opened the next site on the list for my lesson. Another teacher was in the classroom and told me that I should not prepare for a lesson while another lesson was taught by my coteacher. I explained to her why I was doing so and showed her what popped up. I told her "last night this was weather.com with weather maps on the page." I made sure I told my CT who wasn't in the room and then I went and told the computer teacher. Luckily the firewall had blocked the images, it just said why.

    GoehringTeaches is right the schools internet security should be the one underfire not the teacher. That is a shame they let the firewall expire.

    searches I've observed that come up with adult content for inocent searches.
    • most games
    • halloween related
    • music related
    • movies
    • health issues
    • hot rod
    • radio stations
     
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    The poor woman. I had not heard of her until this thread.
    My aide was given the option of resigning or being fired because of being on inappropriate websites at school. I didn't see the site. I have no idea what was on it. I know my 8th and 7th grade boys did see it.
     

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