Job security

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  1. hp123

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    How is everyone feeling about job sercurity for next fall? I know it is a real edgy topic right around NY.
     
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  3. Aliceacc

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    I'm not at worried. We've had registration for next year and are expecting a HUGE freshman class. I know that I'm liked and respected with administration, so that's not an issue.

    That said, I know that I'm in the minority among teachers here-- budget cuts are threatening so many of my online friends. Here's hoping that everyone who needs a job has one.
     
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    I think I may also be in the minority. I have a job if I want it but I know many annual contract teachers who are sitting on pins and needles right now.
     
  5. hp123

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    Alice,

    I too work for a private school. We are expecting good enrollment,so I suspect we will be in good shape.

    We have no union at our school, and we work on a year to year contract...so we always have to be putting fourth 100%. Every, year we could be let go for any reason. I've been there for 10 years, so I don't worry much...but still.
     
  6. hp123

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    Are you on a year-to year contract?
     
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    Generally not worried for my position...I've been in district for 10 years, have tenure and seniority over quite a number of 'newer hires' if there was a RIF. I do worry for the non-tenured in my district. 3 have been let go already and that's before the budget vote...
     
  8. Aliceacc

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    Yes, both my school and my husband's are.

    But I'm not worried. Neither is he. He's been there for 27 years, and this is my 16th year in my school.
     
  9. Ima Teacher

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    I'm not worried for myself. I'm in a subject that isn't one that gets cut (English) when funding isn't available, I'm tenured, and I've been at the school for 17 years.

    We are losing two positions at our school, however, due to a decline in enrollment.
     
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    Our preschool jobs are non-contract, part-time positions. We have gone from 28 teachers to 12 in 3 years. Even though I am high on the totem pole, I lost 35% of my hours so yes, I am worried. I can't take any more cuts and they are going to cut another week out of the school year...sigh....I love what I do but keep wondering if I can afford to do it anymore.
     
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    I'm, for once, feeling pretty good. I am not new, though not yet tenured. However, my admin has already put my name down for 7th grade next year, and I haven't been "approached" about not being there, and they are paying us for training... I assume that nothing is going to happen to my job. We can't afford to lose even one more math teacher at my school (though could, possibly, in district. Again, though, not the lowest on seniority for that either.)
     
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    I feel pretty good. We had a teacher decide to leave so I feel pretty comfortable.
     
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    I'm not worried; we won't be losing any staff at my school (or in my school board for that matter). Any teachers who are "surplus" at their school are guaranteed a job in another school.
     
  14. scooter503

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    I'm only slightly worried for next year, but am worried about my future beyond that...we are looking at closing schools, and with each school up for closure, more will be laid off. If only one school closes, I should be ok. But, if they need to close any more, my head's on the chopping block. Not a good feeling. For added stress, I'm starting to feel like one of the teachers in my building is gunning for me (she's a bully, and apparently I'm her newest target). I'm really starting to dread going to work.
     
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    I took over for someone who went out on maternity leave. If she comes back I'm out of a job. The district does not have the money to create a new position for me. :( Looks like more job hunting.
     
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    Its good to read that almost everyone is feeling secure in their jobs.

    Scooter, why do you feel this teachers is after you? Does she work in the same grade level? Can you give us some examples of what she is doing? Maybe we can help.:angel:
     
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    I feel safe. If I decide to work next year, I will have my job.
     
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    I'm not worried either. About half of the teachers (including myself) in my school are leaving or are looking to leave. My principal has pretty much begged me to stay with promises on taking on a more lead teacher position. It is hard to fill positions at my school as we are the school of last resort for students with severe emotional/behaviors in my school district. I have the feeling that they are going to fill it with first year teachers who have no clue as to what they are getting themselves into. One teacher had a mini-nervous breakdown after she found out she was placed in my school a couple of years ago and to help calm her nerves they had her visit at the end of the year and she cried (the real ugly cry) every time she visited -- they ended up putting her in another school.
     
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    I'm not too worried about next year. I will be going from a support position to a teaching position so I'm looking forward to next year!
     
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    I hope you make the decision that's right for you Sue.
     
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    I feel very secure in my job, but I have coworkers in the district that are sweating.
     
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    My district is looking at probably cutting 60 positions (though not all teachers). I'm second year, so no tenure yet. All non-tenured teachers will be getting either non-renewals or RIFs this year. It's scary. I'm better than most, because I'm the only one with my cert in the district, and if they cut me, they close the Latin department. This probably won't happen, because they then would need to hire another teacher in world languages because they simply do not have the room in the classes handle my enrollment numbers in the other world languages. Still, it's pins and needles until I sign a new contract. First year teachers are pretty much gone, and other departments really need to worry. It's nerve-wracking.
     
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    I'm not worried either (knock on wood). We don't have a lot of teachers at our school who are worried, but some of them should be. They're re-evaluating the evaluation process and some teachers will be put on growth plans this year-a first for us. We are also building a new school on top of the old one. Once it's done it will be amazing-our school now is over 70 years old. However, we will have no park for recess and no parking lot next year-I'm afraid parents will be put off by the construction and we'll lose enrollment.
     
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    The state of Illinois is in complete disarray.

    After watching the celebrity apprentice the other night- It makes more sense than ever.

    We're all on pins and needles and they keep saying dates for the budget to come out for next year and they keep not sending out the budget on the dates specified. It was especially nice that they told us the budget was due the Monday of spring break and then nothing- and now a week and a day later- still nothing. So we all spent all of break worrying.
     
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    I'm not sure what's going to happen next year... I'm only a second year teacher, but I'm well liked by administration. We don't have tenure in my state. There is a proposition on the ballot for 1 cent sales tax and if that passes I'll be in good shape, but if doesn't pass they will be cutting 100 - 150 positions (teachers, admin and support staff). I'm not sure how many teacher positions will be cut. 2/3 of the money generated by the sales tax is slated for education.
     
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    I feel ok for next year but after that who knows. We lost 17 teaching positions last year, we are already bare bones. We already have over 30 kids in a class plus and we are barley able to offer all the courses students need to graduate. Losing anymore teachers would mean kids not graduating on time.
     
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    not looking good :(

    I'm a first year teacher in NJ..and it doesn't look good for me. We haven't heard anything official yet..but I'm pretty sure I'm going to get laid off. I'm hoping for the best..but being realistic and preparing for the worst.
     
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    YAY!!:D
     
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    I'm not getting cut (I am a 3rd year, 1st year in this district tho)
    but I WILL be displaced next year, and have NO idea what grade I will teach or at what school site! :0
     
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    I'm 99.9% certain I'll have a job next year. However, our school is losing one unit and it will come out of my grade level. All 4 of us have tenure so no one will lose her job but at least one of us will have to move. Or it might be more. I have a feeling there's going to be a big shuffle within our district because of trying to become more racially balanced to keep the justice dept from coming in, so one or more of us might have to move to another school that's about 40 minutes away. I'm hoping it won't be me.
     
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    She is the special ed. teacher. She plans meetings on days I can't attend, and then lets the parents talk bad about me. She gossips about me (and many others) in the lunch room. She's had the P talk to me about controlling my class, when my most out-of-control student is one of "hers" and she refuses to let me write him up for behavior issues.
     
  32. TamiJ

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    Very good. I will be at the same school and same grade. I feel very blessed! :) Good luck to everyone and here's to hoping that the 2010-2011 school year will be wonderful for all...
     
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    I found out informally I will regain some of the hours I lost this year - it passed the first round of the budget process so let's hope it passes the second round. They are trying to convince me to change schools to bring that school's program back into shape but I LOVE LOVE LOVE where I am and I don't want to go! We'll see....
     
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    I'm becoming very nervous. I just found out this week my new district was going to lose an additional 1.6 million in state funding, the most for any district in the state.

    State funding is only projected to be worse in the coming years so I do not feel very comfortable.
     
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    signed my contract for nect year last week :) Whew! No matter how safe you feel its a load off your shoulders to sign that paper!
     
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    I'm in limbo yet again... There's a few possibilities at my school. I could go back to a Resource position for a year, or I could be doing two half time Math Mentor positions at two different schools. I would prefer the Resource thing, since I did the whole split between two schools thing last year, and I don't like it.
     
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    Arizona did away with tenure - which I would have just earned this year if they kept it. The board has just rifted the entire administration at our school for next year and have combined positions with other schools. I feel secure because of my subject area, but a lot of people are worried.
     
  38. Anyalee

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    What happens if you sign the contract and then get a better job in a different place and have to break your contract?
     
  39. deedee

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    Its hard to break contracts and could result in them holding your certificate ( from what I heard).

    I would wait until the last min. to sign your contract if you are even thinking of leaving.
     
  40. Anyalee

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    What if you are going to be moving to a different state?
     
  41. slieske

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    In Wisconsin there are districts cutting left and right. We are facing some financial difficulties with the state funding formula currently. When the first few districts started asking to go beyond the funding cap people told them they need to be more responsible. However, now many schools are in the same boat. Our options are to get the public to vote beyond the tax cap, consolidate, or close our districts. Not a fun way to live!
     

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