state of failure? I am guessing the meaning was public education but I am wrong often. Another poster said this and I think it deserves it's own thread. Besides that one will be locked very soon from the conflicting opinions and insults. Is our system of pubic education a failure? Considering how we have zillions of little systems all over the country I find it hard to use a blanket statement like that. I know there are inner city schools that have huge percentages of drop outs and illiteracy. Is that all on the school or is it the environment and lives those children live. Probably some of both. IF our school system is failing where all these colleges getting students from? Just charter or private schools? I work in two public schools and my older children went to schools in other districts. By state accounting and mine they are very good to excellent schools. I read about other local schools here in N Fla and most are doing a good job. Of course those state standards are rewritten each year and the bar is always going up. I think schools are just a small part of society and reflect it honestly. Schools are also an easy target for those that have an "agenda". Let the debate happen.