Interviewing Gripes. . .

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  1. philateach

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    Okay, just in need of some therapeutic venting.

    I hate it when you interview for a position and they tell you how many candidates they're interviewing! I sat down recently with a Superintendent and he said, "well we've had 100s of applicants" and then later, in the beginning of my 2nd interview the Principal, he said, "we've narrowed it down to 30 people".

    In a nutshell, I don't care how many people you are interviewing! Sometimes I feel like I'm auditioning for American Idol. . .
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    Please feel free to share your interviewing process gripes here!
    Interviewers: you, too!
     
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    I think you should feel good that you were chosen to be interviewed out of the 100 people that sent in their resumes!


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    oops...

    I hate when they don't give you an answer either way in a timely fashion!
     
  5. jen12

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    Yeesh!!! As someone who spent years on the other side of the desk--as the interviewer--I always stepped away from giving out that kind of information, even if the interviewee asked. In this market for teachers, I think we can all assume we're up against applicants somewhere in the tens if not over a hundred for each job.

    He may have been venting his own frustration about having so many interviews to do. He may have felt he was sympathizing with your plight in some way by telling you many other people are in your place. Unfortuantely, that kind of statement can often be very defeatest and frustrating.

    I'm with you on your American Idol comparision....I always compared interviewing to dating. You're totally checking each other out and you never know what Seinfeldian signal you give off is going to tip the scales one way or the other. It's maddening...but, at least you got an interview! I've sent out applications and the best I've done so far are thanks but no thanks emails!
     
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    Probably my biggest gripe as an interviewer was the occasional teacher who, at interview time, was full of promise and plans and capabilities.

    Then, once work started, he morphed into "poor me, I'm a new teacher, I have no idea what to do or how to do it." Needless to say, he didn't last.

    Either you're a competant professional who should be considered up there with my other resumes, or you're not. We don't hire interns.
     
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    So far the biggest "gripe" I have had regarding an interview was they made me have an appointment for it, that's fine no problem there. I showed up about 15 minutes early to be prepared. The team was laughing, talking on cell phones, on facebook, you name it for AN HOUR before they started interviewing me and the girl sitting there who was supposed to go in 15 minutes after me.

    That was completely unprofessional to me because if you make people have appointments then (to me) you ought to keep those times at least within a 15 minute window or at least have a GOOD reason for running behind. Facebook and snack/coffee breaks are not good reasons.
     
  8. philateach

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    Yes! Especially waiting by the phone to hear back and getting mad when someone else calls!!!!

    But, just like with dating, you just have to be yourself and hope they like you! :)
     
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    I sometimes like being told how many applicants they had. I at least know that I am ahead of some other people in the process even if I didn't get the job. Sometimes it can be slightly encouraging.

    However, at my last interview, they told me that they interviewed four people before me and would be doing a phone interview after I left with someone in a master's program. All of that seemed like too many details to hear at the beginning of my interview! It was very depressing!
     
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    At the beginning of my interview she said she will be doing 20 interviews today!! It really made me feel like crap. She also set the timer so it was difficult for me to go in detail with my answers. I couldn't help but to think that some of those 20 people were as talented as me as well as more experienced.
     
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    I hate when it is obvious that the interviewer hasn't read my resume or application at all. At one interview, the interviewer didn't have my resume (glad I brought extras) and after talking to me for awhile told me that I didn't fulfill one of the requirements for the job (which was not in the job posting). Well if you or someone had looked at my resume and at least that one section of my painstakingly completed job application...
     
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    I hated that too while applying! All the job applications (especially those online ones like applitrack sp?) are SO long and time consuming. I'd often spend up to 3 hours just filling out one job application! Even if they let me import stuff, it still took awhile. Why do they make you do all that if they're not going to bother to read it? At the end of one interview, the P asked me what sort of clubs I might be interested in starting or leading. I said that I was interested in starting a spanish language/culture club since this is something that's normally at high schools, yet I think many elementary kids would get a lot more out of it and think it was really cool. She said "Oh really? You speak Spanish? Wow that's really great because our population is 70% hispanic." Several other people on the interview team acted surprised as well. It was on my resume, I had written about how I speak Spanish in the first paragraph of my cover letter (also mentioned it was my minor in college), as well as mentioned it several times in the application (where they ask if you know a foreign language, listed it as a minor, talked about it in at least 1-2 of the essay questions). I know if they would have read all that they would have picked up on it since it was so important for their school. I was actually offered the job, but I had already accepted another position.

    The number one thing that drove me nuts when interviewing was when they were totally dishonest about what type of job it was. On numerous occasions, the job was listed as mild/moderate intervention specialist, yet I would find out that it was really a moderate-severe position. I'm not qualified for nor interested in that type of job. I drove a roundtrip of 7 hours once for an interview like that. They told me they kept me on the list because I could technically do the job under the "moderate" part of my license. If they would have been honest with me, I could have saved a lot of time/money/stress. I had 2 (luckily phone) interviews that ended up being the same thing. When there are thousands of applicants for jobs and it's SO exciting just to get an interview, it's heartbreaking to find out that all the time the job was something I couldn't get anyway. Finally by midsummer I started asking people to clarify specifically what the position was before I scheduled an interview.
     
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    My question is, how do they select interviewees if they are not looking at resumes, cover letters, or qualifications? It seems that there are hundreds of applications submitted for each job, I thought resumes and cover letters were important.
     
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    A ton of districts (at least in my hometown area) use surveys like gallup or teacher insight as part of their application. Then from those tests, they interview the top 1 or 2 percent of scorers. When they're getting thousands of apps, it really does make sense that they need something to narrow it down without spending 3 weeks just looking through them (although I HATED the gallup test). However, you'd think that once they decided who they were going to interview, they'd take a closer look at their app/resume/cover letter before they came in.

    I think several schools also have one committee looking through resumes/apps, and then recommending people to interview to the P or super or whoever. So they'll choose their top 5 candidates or whatever and then that's who the P will interview. Again, you would think the P/super would take the time to review the resume/app/cover letter even if they hadn't chosen the candidates...
     
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    I think sometimes they have someone in HR look at the resumes and set up the interview. Other times, there will be another staff member like maybe a recruiter for the school who does it and does an initial screening interview over the phone before making a recommendation to the next round of interviews.
     
  16. Memom2

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    Maybe I just really messed up when I took that survey! I know I overthought the answers, I kept thinking that they were trying to see if I liked children too much! The questions were strange sometimes and a lot of them I could have answered either way. I will just go with my first instinct next year.
     
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    I would LOVE to know what answers they're actually looking for in that survey, even though I already have a job now- just out of curiosity! That thing drove me nuts! I'm not sure if each district can decide what answer is most important to them, or if it's just what the gallup people have decided. So many of them had multiple posibilities, and it's frustrating that you can't explain your answers. Here's a couple (as best as I can remember) that a year later I'm still wondering about..haha.

    -The one about breaking rules (do they want you to say no, or say yes to help a student).
    -The one about teaching being more important, as important, or less important than other professions (do they want you to say it's more important because it's your passion, or as important because you respect everyone)
    -The one about what gives you the most joy in teaching (I would say watching students grow, but the closest thing on there was "seeing students graduate." I always picked that, but I thought it might seem silly for an elementary major).
    -The one about your students liking you (I'm guessing that they're obviously looking for someone who is not interested in being "friends" with the students, but one of the answers was "I don't care if they like me as long as they're learning" or something like that- would that imply you don't work to build relationships with students?)

    That's all I can think of for now...but I remember being really torn on a lot of the questions. I would love to see what they actually think the best answers are!
     
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    The one about breaking rules has a whole different meaning now that several states have caught teachers cheating on tests!

    I agree about these questions - what is the purpose? Yes, it would be nice for the kids to like me, and I do want that, but I am there to teach them. I want my own kids to like me too, but sometimes that is impossible because I have to teach them how to grow. I refuse to be a friend first and a parent/teacher second. However, who knows how that translates on their survey?
     
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    I don't recall it ever really happening to me, but I hate it when the interviewers really get your hopes up like you're probably going to get it, but in fact you don't. Yrs & yrs ago, a principal did that to my mom & really made her think she had the job, but she didn't.

    For the SLPA job I aplied for nowadays, there's 3 open positions & I'd be interested to know how many people applied for it.
     
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    I had an interview that was about 5 hours away out of state and they asked if I was working towards that certification or else they couldn't continue the interview and that was only two minutes in! Thankfully I was but why didn't they ask when they called to set up the interview?! They didn't even seem to realize I was from out of state at first!

    I also dislike group interviews because I feel like whoever goes first always takes part of my answer lol.
     
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    I don't like being told at the beginning of an interview: "You will have 30 minutes to interview. Please be mindful of the time constraints. Be thoughtful in your answers so that you do not run out of time. If there is time at the end of the interview, you can ask questions of the committee."

    I like a more relaxed atmosphere when interviewing. But I don't make the rules... I just follow the lead of my P.
     
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    My first public school interview was HORRIBLE (this actually happened a month ago)
    First it was not personal at all. The principal asked the questions off the paper and wrote my response down. There was no room for any personality AT ALL.
    Second, when I was responding to the questions he was asking, he was making faces....rude faces...like what I said was dumb. I felt really horrible after that interview and super uncomfortable. It was very unprofessional of them and I kinda knew that they were not going to hire me.

    Now a another interview that I went on was for a Montersorri job (i made a thread about it). Well during the interview she basically made it seem like I had the JOB and I was super excited because she mentioned that she will pay for the certification and all.
    Well when I emailed hr a THANK YOU note, she basically replied saying they are looking for someone who is qualified and good luck with fibnding a job.
    I was SUPER ****** OFF....In one week I went from UP...to down...to WAY DOWN.
    THE VERY NEXT WEEK....I was offered a job at another public school that I interviewed for.

    But I cant stand it when they make you seem like you have the job to making rude, awful faces....very UNPROFESSIONAL
     
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    I would say the worst thing I have heard of (but haven't experienced) is a district that encouraged a teacher to fly cross-country for the interview, after leading her to believe she had the job. The P suddenly changed her mind despite the objections of the rest of the committee. This poor person had to fly in and out on her own dime.

    Also, I had one bad experience when I was asked to switch my interview time to the end of the day. Then I had to sit and wait over 30 min. waiting for mine to start, while listening to the committee laugh and laugh with the candidate before me, who they obviously knew well. By the time I had made it in, it was late in the day and they obviously wanted to go home. They asked me brief questions and never followed up on any of my comments. They had no smiles for me....It was clear that they really had little interest in my candidacy and I was relieved to get the heck out of there!
     
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    I had this happen too! The candidate in front of me was just making them all laugh, like they were best of friends. I go in there and it's just like :huh: the whole time. They would maybe smile a little, maybe nod in agreement, but there was none of the laughter or happiness that was going on with the other girl! I made me feel like crap and I wanted to get out of there as fast as I could... it was awkward.
     
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    wow some of you have had some terrible experiences.

    This was mine last week. I prefer conversational interviews where I get to shine and tell my stories, give examples, etc. I think I did fine, but I hate these type of interviews. I would say about 6 words and she'd nod her head while looking down and writing the entire time. Hardly any eye contact. I felt like that meant she was ready to move on to the next question and I needed to hush.
     
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    I hated those interviews too. I think a lot of those with the specific questions/answers are more for "screening" and they're not really supposed to respond to you. I especially got that a lot at job fairs. Some of the interviewers were kind of enough to tell me at the beginning that they'd be writing my answers and that couldn't show a reaction, ask me to clarify, or really respond in anyway or it would invalidate whatever results the were looking for (most were scored on a rubric).
     
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    Is there usually more than one interviewer? At my last interview, it was just the principal. At all of the other interviews that I have been to, there has always been at least two. When I saw that it would be just one person in the interview, I was disappointed. He kept apologizing that he couldn't drag someone else in during the summer to help out with it. He was also interviewing for three other unrelated positions that day all mixed up. My interview was in the morning and I felt like with only one person, it would be easy to be forgotten. He wrote the entire time that I was talking. When I wasn't talking, he was. I came out of that inteview knowing everything about him, his family, his past interviews, and his previous jobs. After I left, I started wondering who was interviewing who.
     
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    Oh, that is funny! He might be fun to work for, though, if he is that talkative!
     
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    Most of my interviews have had at least two people, but I've had anywhere from one to four people in my interviews this interview season.
     
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    Joy- In the "screening" process, yes it usually was just one person interviewing.
     
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    I remember going on an interview where they told me that 127 people had applied. They didn't hire me for that position but they did hire me for one with "only" 80 something applicants.
     
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    A couple of months ago, I was working as a case manager/nanny for a teen girl with severe disabilities. To make a long story short, the family had a lot of issues. I had to live in the house to take care of the girl and every day it felt like I was in a battlefield. After I flew to Hawaii for a long weekend (from Georgia) I just got to Hawaii and broke down. I knew I had to leave my job and could not take it anymore. So I went home and applied for jobs. I went on an interview at a non profit for a job coach position for adults with developmental delays. On the second interview, the lady looked at my resume and asked me why I was applying to the position because I had a lot of experience and a Master's Degree in Spec. ed? She actually told me to my face, "I don't understand why you applied to this position, the job is beneath you!"

    I was shocked! I applied for the position and was willing to take a huge paycut. If I am willing to do the job, then what is the problem? I guess they felt I would leave them once something better came along, but in this economy, I know people with degrees are applying to retail, etc... It just really annoyed the crap outta me that I was told I was "too qualified" for the position.
     
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    The worst interview I've had was one that followed my sample teach. I had already gone through the screening process with HR and had a phone interview with one of the APs. I was told by the AP to plan a 45 min lesson reviewing a specific topic. I figured that would be fine because it was something I had taught to my kids already. I had this fantastic cooperative group lesson plan and I get there and the kids knew NOTHING! Instead of it being a fun group lesson reviewing the material it turned into a lecture because the kids didn't even know the basics. I thought on my feet and modified the lesson and the kids seemed to enjoy it and at the end most of them had a good grasp of the material (considering I covered so much).

    Then I had to meet with another AP and the future AP. They both just kept saying, "This didn't match your lesson plan. We would have preferred to see a more student-centered lesson." I just wanted to get up and walk out. I was told it was supposed to be a review and that is what I planned. Instead I had to change on the spot - in an unfamiliar classroom, with kids I had never met, and 3 adults watching me (2 APs and the classroom teacher). I thought I did pretty well considering. I guess it worked out for the best that I didn't get it because they were so unorganized and incredibly rude. Also, did I mention that this was 2 weeks before the TAKS test... Arghh!!! Worst interview EVER!
     
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    Hmmmm... I have not had a bad interview experience. But I had one where I felt completely intimidated. I walked into an interview panel of about 15 people. I was not expecting that. It took me by surprise, but I quickly recovered.
     
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    15 people???!!!!!!! Wth?? LOL Was that really necessary?
     
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    Seriously! They had all the administrators (3) There was a teacher from each grade level. There was the Guidance Counselor. And there were some people from the district office. I could barely fit in the room. AND to make it even more interesting, they DID NOT have an opening. They ANTICIPATED openings, but they did not have one. BTW~ I did get a job there and loved it. The plan was to interview everyone early and then grab the best applicants first. It really was genius.
     

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