I'm taking a "break" from this site.

Discussion in 'Teacher Time Out' started by ecteach, Feb 15, 2014.

  1. Mrs.DLC

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    Interesting

    I also don't post often. I tried the ignore for two posters, but much of what they said was highlighted in other posts so I saw it anyway!! I do think most people on here are helpful and supportive. I guess the ones who are" perfect teachers and know everything" must just have some need to always let the rest of us know it. It makes me wonder about how it must be to teach in the same school with them.........oh, wait, their schools are also always wonderful.....:lol: I hope you find somewhere to share ideas and concerns with acceptance.
     
  2. Em_Catz

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    I just read the thread EC and am sorry for how things went down. :hugs:Over the years, I've heard and engaged in many conversations that compare teachers to everything from cops, to wardens, to dog trainers, to parents, to social workers, to dictators, etc.

    While that might offend some people, none of that was meant to disrespect or downplay those said professions. I feel like you were just trying to toot the teaching horn and compliment a profession where so many leave because they feel don't feel appreciated.

    Without going into specifics, I have been attacked twice in a thread (and once in a pm) for opening my heart and it turned me off the site as well. What keeps me coming is the large number of positive people. I try to ignore and not take what the hand full of negative ones say personally.

    If we were looking at each other face to face and worked at the same school, the negative ones would get under my skin.

    But I remind myself that no one on here really knows me, what I am like as a teacher, my classroom situation, what's going on in my personal life, the type of person I am, the challenges I face, etc, except from what I tell them or what they infer from my posts.

    Someone on here chastising me for something I say might be the very person who is on their school watch list for forging grades, cursing at a student, not being an effective teacher, having had several parent complaints, etc.

    Anyway, if you do decide to come back, I hope you'll ignore the negative and focus on those positive ones of us who can disagree without attacking. :2cents:
     
  3. Major

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    So here's a question for you....... Why do people need to announce that they are "taking a break" from the forum? Why not simply stop posting? :unsure:

    (Now it's time to move on to the important issues on ESPN.COM, Nascar.Com, etc ... or perhaps see what's happening on some pro "Gunnie" sites........:lol:)
     
  4. JustMe

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    People announce from FB a lot and it always cracks me up. A few days before Christmas I had two friends announce they wouldn't be on any social media in order to enjoy family and the meaning of the holiday and they urged everyone to do the same. Um, they both lasted the day or so. Among other posts, Christmas morning tons of pics of presents, presents, and presents! You know, the real meaning of Christmas! :rolleyes:
     
  5. TeacherNY

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    I think that's what the bullies want. It's sad that people can't write a post and then have to be badgered over and over about it. Online, as in real life, there are people who HAVE to be right all the time to make themselves feel important. Even if they have no experience in the matter. This is a place where teachers are supposed to be supported so I don't know why anyone who wasn't a teacher would feel the need to bully us.

    Anyway, hope those who have left for these reasons come back soon.
     
  6. Ms. I

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    Major, I kind of wonder that myself. I guess they just want to inform the majority who have been nice, so they don't start to worry.
     
  7. donziejo

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    :agreed: I read the thread and understand that you were trying to be uplifting. I think people post they are taking a break for a variety of reasons. Thanks for taking the time to let us know. I hope you will reconsider as I hate to think a few bullies will run you off. There are some that may be outspoken, and that's a good thing. There are a couple that are never part of the solution but just here to make themselves feel important. That's the ones I would block. Thankfully that is only one or two.
     
  8. Em_Catz

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    I feel like people announce for the reasons Ms. I said and that they hope that if enough people start leaving the site for that reason that it will make a difference in how people treat each other on the site.

    Other posters have mentioned that despite the few knuckleheads on here, this site is much better moderated than others. I can attest to that, having been a member of Yahoo Answers during my first two years as a teacher.

    I used to post regularly in the Education: Teaching section looking for advice and support. The abuse I got there made me grateful to God when I found this site.

    I remember posting on YA about a student who had poor hygiene. Part of my post said something like: "If the children keep saying she smells, will she start to notice and improve her hygiene on her or do I call her parents? How do I tell them without being offensive?"

    WELL, I got so many nasty replies, some of the cleaner ones being things like, "Are you f--king kidding me?" and "You should quit teaching idiot. Obviously you should go tell the school nurse." and "What grade do you teach and where so I can make sure my child is NEVER in your class."

    That kind of stuff would NEVER fly on here. I'm not saying you all would've sugarcoated it, but it would have been a much more respectful response on AtoZ:thumb:
     
  9. Cerek

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    I began posting on social forums in October of 2001. Since then, I have participated in hundreds of discussions on most of the hot topics, especially politics and religion. I've posted on general forums, Christian forums and even joined a pagan forum so *I* would be the "outsider" for a change (btw,the members of that forum were easily the MOST respectful member - as a whole - I've ever encountered).

    In all those years and all those forums, I can say AtoZ DOES allow certain members to continue posting remarks that are are condescending, snarky, argumentative and just sometimes downright rude and insulting to other members who don't agree with their views.

    I've seen it from the same members time and again. I've also seen it from at least 1 moderator on a regular basis. One who seems to have a particular issue with me and my own posting style. In one thread in particular, it was the moderator who posted the first snarky, condescending remark in what had been - up to that point - a very respectful discussion.

    So please spare me - and the rest of the members - the excuse that "We can't read every post in every thread". You don't have to read every individual post because the members who do this do it on a regular basis in numbers of threads. It is a continuing pattern.

    If you don't see individual posts, that's understandable. If you don't see and recognize a pattern of posting such comments in numerous threads, then you either aren't looking at all or you're just looking the other way because of who the member is.

    While AtoZ may not be the worst forum out there, it certainly does have lots of room for improvement for a forum that is supposed to be a collection of professionals concerned with helping and encouraging each other.
     
  10. Linguist92021

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    Hmm... the ignore button doesn't seem to work. For the first time, just now I put someone on the ignore list, because I prefer not to see anything from that member. And then, there you are, showing a thread started by this member. Went back to the ignore list, and yes, they're on it, so then why is that thread showing??
     
  11. gr3teacher

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    I'm a moderator on another site with several million users, and several thousand active users. What's important to remember is that moderators are ultimately nothing but unpaid volunteers who happen to use a forum a lot. They're still regular people, they aren't paid for what they do, and they have the same tendencies towards the occasional grumpiness that anybody else has.
     
  12. Cerek

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    I understand moderators are volunteers. I also understand each moderator made the CHOICE to serve in that capacity. I've served as a moderator myself. And while we are still people with the same emotions and feelings as everyone else, we make make an unwritten agreement with the members of the forum to keep OUR emotions and feelings OUT of our decisions or posts made as moderators. Just as make that same agreement to our students to remain professional, keep our emotions in check and NOT take it out on them when we are having a bad day

    It was the same when I taught the AWANA classes at my church. I was volunteer and didn't get paid for that, but I STILL had a certain level of conduct and respect I was obligated to display in that role and I freely CHOSE to accept that obligation when I agreed to teach the class.

    If we DO feel strongly about a particular topic or discussion, we can always start the post with a note saying "Mod Mode OFF", which means, in THIS specific discussion, I'm posting as a regular member instead of a Mod and other members can respond freely to what I post.

    In regards to the Mod I mentioned before, not only does this Mod often respond with snarkiness and sarcasm when they disagree with what is being said, they also will sometimes use their power as a Mod to make one last snarky comment, the CLOSE the thread to ensure they get the last word. I've seen it happen more than once.
     
  13. swansong1

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    This. I was going to post something similar to this...about posters having tantrums and "leaving" because they don't like some response to their post...but this post says it more eloquently.
     
  14. Cerek

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    I see it differently.

    Almost every one of these "leaving" threads state the same thing; they are tired of the atmosphere of sarcasm, abuse or "bullying" that seems to be allowed without any fear of reprisal. Most of the time, it is not a reaction over a few posts in one discussion, but rather a culmination and history of such posts over an extended period of time and several threads. And the member finally reaches a point where they are tired of feeling 'bullied" by others. So they make a post to finally say "I've had enough of this". The purpose is to indirectly "call out" those they feel have been bullies towards them and also to bring that behavior to the attention of the Mods and the Owner. While they can't monitor every post in every thread, it is pretty certain they WILL take a look at any "leaving" thread posted - as evidenced by this thread.

    In our schools and classrooms, we constantly encourage our kids to "speak up" against bullying and promise our full and unwavering support for those courageous enough to do so.....then we come here and promptly accuse anyone who does just that of wanting to just create drama and draw attention to themselves.

    We ask ourselves and our students "Why won't you speak up against bullying when you see it? Or if it is happening to you?" All you have to do is look at some of the responses in this thread and others to see EXACTLY why they don't; because they know THIS is the kind of response they will receive if they do.
     
  15. Major

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    :thumb: Couldn't agree with you more, swansong1 ..... I thought SpecialPreskoo's post was not only right on the money.. but very entertaining ..... :2cents:
     

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