I was screwed over. (Angry rant)

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  1. MaleTeacher

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    I am just upset with everything that happened. I was supposed to be finished with student teaching this month and graduating in May. Now because of my horrible cooperating teacher I have to redo my entire student teaching in August and my graduation is delayed to December.

    I was removed from my first grade classroom after complaining to my university supervisor about my cooperating teacher. I told him how she made me pay 50 dollars to get my time log signed and $200 to get my evaluation forms completed. There were many other stuff that she did (taking gift cards, having me pay money for student accounts) and I snapped.

    I talked with my supervisor in the hopes that he would stop her but instead I was removed. Because of my complaining I am now paying the price for it. My graduation is delayed and my search for other placements was horrible. I am just upset with myself. If I just had sat quiet and kept giving her money I would be finished right now.
     
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    That was my face when I was told that I had to redo the entire student teaching internship. I feel as though they could have allowed me to search for another placement and complete my remaining hours at another school during this semester.
     
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    There has to be more to this story. What reason did your supervisor give you for removing you?
     
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    He said that what she was doing is extortion. I sent him an entire list of stuff that happened. I made a list of the money that I gave her. This doesn't allow me to include link, so I will type out the amounts that I had sent him. They were:
    -$50 dollars Christmas gift card for staff, which I left with my cooperating teacher.
    -$60 dollars for stuffed animals for the students; later told to not hand them out.
    -$51 dollars for student Christmas accounts.
    -$30 dollars to sponsor a class field trip;which later turned out that the school plays for all the trips through its own budget.
    -$50 dollars to get her to initial my time log.
    -$200 dollars to get my evaluation written.

    He would not have believed me, but I would write down everything that was going on in my time logs.
     
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    Nothing surprises me. In my home town, if you wanted to be a teacher, you had to bring an unmarked envelope with a specified amount of cash in it and leave it on the desk. Otherwise, you wouldn't get the job. This went on for decades. It was the dirty secret that everybody knew about but no one would report. Those that tried were just told that they didn't interview well and that is why they didn't get the job.

    You just never know.
     
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    I feel like I’ve just entered the Twilight Zone!
     
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    I was at a charter school that belong to a school district. The district does have a bad reputation in Michigan but I never thought that this would happen to me.
     
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    I think this works. If you click on it you will see a copy of my final documentation. It is one of the several pages that I sent to my college. It shows part of what happened, and the principal of that school signed it.
     
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    Wow wasn’t expecting that one! They should probably stop sending student teachers to that school if it has a bad reputation.

    Also, might I suggest blurring out names for anonymity purposes.
     
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    I was the first student teacher they had. They know how hard it is to find a student teaching placement in Michigan and used it to their advantage.
     
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    Please remove the image because it has identifying information in it.
     
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    This is another page from the entire documentation binder that I had to make to prove my innocence. When she realized that I told my university about her actions, she started accusing me of stuff. She said I was a horrible person who was always late and never did anything. I had to get evidence (student projects, pictures of me at the recitals and performances, my time logs) and I had to prove that I did nothing wrong.
    Why is it that everyone automatically assumed I was lying. I hate it how everyone turned against me when this all started. Once they saw the evidence then they were all so sweet and saying how they always believed me and knew I did nothing wrong.
    However, the end result is that I am the one paying for this. My graduation is delayed until December, which means that I am losing money. I planned to graduate, get my teaching license, and start teaching in the fall.
     
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    I will remove it shortly. I had a feeling that if I did not include it, nobody would believe me.
     
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    Who typed those documents?
     
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    I did. I made an entire binder of documentation. I then talked with my supervisor and he said it would behoove me to get them signed. If I didn't have the signatures then everybody would have believed the cooperating teacher. I mean, who would you believe if there was no documentation? An aspiring student teacher or a fully qualified teacher with years of experience.
     
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    Please, follow this advice ASAP!
     
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    I already removed the images.
     
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    I have unapproved any problematic reposts. Thanks.

    It sounds like it may be a GOOD thing if you get a second semester to student teach, OP. It sounds like what you reported was not an authentic setting, let alone a positive one.
     
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    [QUOTE="It sounds like it may be a GOOD thing if you get a second semester to student teach, OP. It sounds like what you reported was not an authentic setting, let alone a positive one.[/QUOTE]

    I am not sure if I will do it. I checked, and I can get a bachelor's degree with a "theory" education major. This means that I won't have to waste my time and money doing student teaching all over again.
    I checked and there are states (like Utah or Arizona) were some schools don't require teachers to have student teaching. As long as I pass the state certification exams I should be fine. Of course, this is not where I wanted to end up (my dream states were Pennsylvania, Ohio, and New York) but I can't bring myself to take on more loans.
     
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    I would strongly recommend doing student teaching. It isn't worth limiting your future options because of something negative that has already happened. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    I can understand your frustration. But don’t make rash decisions and think big picture. More student teaching experience will only make your career options and life as an inexperienced educator better not worse.
     
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    I already calculated how much it would cost me to do everything again.
    My university charges $653 per credit, so the student teaching class/cohort would alone cost me $5,877. With fees it will be close to $6,500.

    The only place that I found for my potential student teaching placement is up north. The motel in that town (1,200 people) costs $280 a week. Student teaching is 16 weeks so that would cost me $4,480.

    I have to drive seven hours to get there and will be making trips back home to help my parents out every other Sunday. Gas alone will be around $470.

    Everything will cost me a minimum of $11,450. If you include the small costs (printer, school supplies, laundry, gas for getting around) it will be so much more. Plus add the fact that any loan will have fees and interest rates so it is quite bleak.
     
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    My opinion would be that if you want to teach, you need student teaching experience. How important it is depends on your location but I firmly believe in the importance of student teaching.

    Only you can decide what you can afford financially.
     
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    I'd work more with your university to find a better solution. They may be able to work something out financially. Who placed you? Did you find it or did the university?

    Why is it so hard to find a place to student teach?
     
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    Is there a reason you can't find a student teaching placement closer to home?
     
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    Was this a public school?
     
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    My university does not take any part in this. It is my job to find and arrange a placement. It is hard to find placements for several reasons.
    1. The Three Year rule. The teacher needs to have at least three years of experience.
    2. Districts that are on improvement plans do not want or can't take student teachers.
    3. Due to the new evaluation systems, teachers don't want to get their results (student progress/achievement) based on what the student teacher did.
    4. My college is out of state, and it doesn't have any type of contract or agreement with the school districts here in Michigan.
    5. I am required to record lessons (since my supervisor is in Colorado). Many school districts are turned off by this, since they don't know what the recordings will be used for.
    6. My college is in Colorado and it doesn't use Common Core. Even though I offer to make my lessons aligned with Common Core standards, many principals/human resource think that I won't be up to par with all the requirements.
    7. I am the one who is contacting school districts. Many don't want to bother with me and simply tell me that my college is supposed to get in contact with them. My college doesn't do that.
     
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    Yes, this was a public charter school that belongs to a school district.
     
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    Reason 15,753 I don’t work in a public school. Sheesh. These stories just get more ridiculous and psychotic as time goes on.
     
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    #WaronPublicSchools
     
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    No, it just looks like my sample size is getting larger and larger! ;)
     
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    You still don't get it.....if you want to make fair comparisons, you'd have to count every ONE private school story as approximately TEN public school stories just based on the sheer number of private and public schools there are in the US.

    And it has nothing to do with private vs. public in this context. I don't even understand why it's a question you'd go to, but for your war.
     
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    Once she found out that I told my school and the principal that she is taking money from me, she ruined my reputation. I don't know what she did (and I won't express my thoughts since I don't have evidence), but no district within 30 miles from me (there are 18 or 19 districts) even responded to my request for a student teaching placement.
     
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    It’s difficult to count all the private mishaps because there are so few! I already have WAY more than the ten public ones, though. I’ll keep looking!
     
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    You may have just ruined your career... before it even began! You should have waited until after you finished and THEN reported her.
     
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    In a worst case scenario I would have to agree with you. I never planned on teaching in Michigan anyway, but if I was in a position where I had to stay here, this surely would have a big impact on my career.
    However, I plan on teaching in other states far away from Michigan. I am not going to let a horrible, selfish, and greedy person determine my future.
     
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    I'd add that many cooperating teachers are compensated by the university with a class voucher which teachers like to use for more credits towards their next pay step. If your college doesn't offer this, there is no incentive for a teacher to take on the student teacher.
     
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