Discussion in 'Secondary Education' started by Chris Render, Jan 29, 2018.
Jan 31, 2018
Teacher or District please.
I think you’re in California right? Both large geographically and in difference in quality. Where does California rank again?
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen in the history of the world. Last time leaborb said stuff like this, I looked it up and it was less than 1%. Much less if memory serves.
No, I'm not in California.
There was a teacher in my district teaching a very common language, who apparently barely spoke that language. It happens more than we would like to think.
OP, it looks like your certs are in Business education -- is that correct? Sadly, at least where I am, Business classes are extremely rare. I would look to add another certification if possible in order to find a full-time position.
I teach HS math...the closest I've been asked to teach outside of my subject area is computer science. I am not sure what certifications are required for teaching computer science, but I'm guessing business ed would fall under that umbrella, but math works too (at least when they're desperate). I told my boss I wasn't comfortable enough with computer science to teach it, and she understood
There is no computer science cert in NJ. I think math cert is what most schools cover computer science with. Technology cert mentions nothing about qualifying you for computer science courses.
Yeah, we've had a cast of characters teaching computer science. Math teachers, biology teachers, and even the media center specialist have taught it---it seems to be a hard position to fill as all of those people have been reluctant to do it.
Anyone with a high school cert could technically teach it I suppose. If you aren’t required to hold a specific cert, that would mean you are just required to be certified to teach the grade level?
As I was once told, if you can convince them that you can teach it, that's good enough. It's not a content cert in NJ.
I don't know if it happens a ton across the state, but I taught in a large urban district in central NY and my school really tried to persuade me to teach 8th grade science even though I'm only certified 1-6. I don't even have a science-specific certification. I managed to get out of it, but the knowledge that I couldn't necessarily get out of something similar later is partly why I left the district. (There were bigger reasons, but it was definitely a consideration.) It was a high needs district and they have a very difficult time finding and keeping teachers in certain subject areas at the secondary level so it wasn't that unusual there.
It is imperative that teachers know the licensing codes for the state that they teach in and what is and is not legal. I don't take anyone's word for "this is OK" because my mother taught me to take care of myself when she stated, "know what the law says, because people will lie to you". Advice that has stood the test of time.
As leaborb said, in NYS there's something called incidental teaching that allows districts who can prove they have a need for that position/subject area to push teachers out of certification. There are certain requirements/limitations, but it's legal.
Chris Render, do you know if there are any districts around you that have a school that has professional/trade tracks of any kind? One of the nearby districts here has a high school where students can pick a career path or trade so they have more business and computer science classes. It's a really neat school.
Feb 1, 2018
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