I can't assess my student's goals!

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  1. Rox

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    Last year, my classroom was taught by a long-term sub who had no background knowledge/certificate/experience in special ed. The IEP goals that she wrote for one of my students don't make sense. For example, "the student will be able to discriminate linguistic and nonlinguistic sounds." What does that mean??? She also wrote a couple of goals that a speech pathologist and audiologist would be responsible for, but she put down "teacher" as the person responsible. I talked to my principal about what I should do, and he said that I can't just write "the teacher cannot assess this goal at this time" or something similar to that. He said I have to assess the student and put something down. :dizzy: Any ideas?
     
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    I think it sounds like maybe the goal is to discriminate words from non-words?

    I don't know how your reports generate, but mine give me space to do a bit of a narrative in addition to or instead of percentages (thankfully, I don't have to graph all of mine)... could you use that space to do what you ARE working on or how you've been interpreting the objective

    Also... on ALL my goals, I put something along the lines of "teacher, SLP, aide, OT, PT" in the "implementors" box... they're things that we might ALL work on, even if the SLP is in charge of the data reporting :)
     
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    The student is deaf, so would that be in English or American Sign Language? Written? Spoken? Signed? If the goal was to assess whether she can identify words, why wasn't the goal written to distinguish linguistic words vs. nonlinguistic words? The goal says to distinguish sounds, but this student does NOT HEAR AT ALL, even with hearing aids.

    I can add additional information, but I don't feel comfortable signing my name and basically saying that I assessed the student when I'm not qualified to. I HAVE to check either "met", "partially met", or "not met", so I guess I'm going to check partially met for all the goals.
     
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    Do you have any sort of special ed facilitator or coordinator who can guide you?

    I'm not a special ed teacher and I don't know how all the stuff you guys do works. I'm wondering how it's even possible for such odd-sounding and vague goals to be written. Did someone have to sign off on them, or was it fully at the discretion of the teacher last year?
     
  6. Chokita

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    You should call an IEP meeting and revise/change the goals. Talk to the parents and tell them that you don't waste time on working on something that doesn't make sense and that you would rather create more functional goals for the student.
     
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    NOtu sing that exact wording, I was thinknig the same thing Chokita just said... we actually just did that for one of my little guys. The goals that were written over the summer (he had just turned 3) were higher than he can realistically achieve... so we just did a meeting where we ammended his goals. It isn't a new IEP (minutes and services and everything else stayed the same), but it's just an amendment of the goals. The way we phrased it to mom was that "When we wrote these goals over the summer, we didn't know him yet, and we're discovering that these goals aren't appropriate at this time. We're working at his level. We need the goals to reflect that." Mom was totally on board, and his new goals are MUCH better.
     
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    I'm just surprised that the parents signed that IEP and agreeed to the goals! What were they thinking?

    Before I got to the school where I am now, my class had a long-term sub. Well, two of the kids had to have IEPs during that time. So another special ed teacher (not the sub) from a diferent class came in, assessed them to see what level they're at, and did the IEP for them. So it was a qualified special education teacher, not a sub.
     
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    I am very surprised that they allowed a LTS with no sped experience write IEP goals. I think they should have done what Chokita did and that was had another sped teacher write them.
     
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    Most parents have the mindset of "The school is giving this to me, so it must be right" so they sign it.
     
  11. ITeachSDCkids

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    Are you doing a progress reporting on STO's or annual reporting?
    There could be a problem if time has passed and no IEP was called to discuss changing the goals.Either way, I would hold an IEP right away. Before you do I would discuss it with the program specialist and any providers. I would also have all proposed goals based on needs and present levels with clear measurements.
     
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    If an inherited goal is not appropriate- you might say:

    "Consistent effort, works well ... (and then report progress in a related area you are working on.)"

    Poor goals are just that. Transfers and wordy prior teachers always produce unworkable goals. I love the "will progress to level Z" when I haven't any resources or a clue as to what level Z is! Figure out the intent of the goal and report on a related area.

    Goodluck

    (Improve the goals for next year!)
     
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    I have never heard of a LTS writing goals. I would request a meeting to amend the goals.
     

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