I cannot believe I'm applying for a sub job...again...

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  1. Rainbowbird

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    A friend in my old district encouraged me to apply for a long term sub job in reading. It is from Aug.--Dec. but the word on the street is that the teacher will be out for the whole year.

    It's a reading resource room job so I'd be working with small pull out groups. I'd be with the reading consultant who would be my captain. I know her and like her a lot.

    I'm figuring that it would be great experience and stands out a bit from the usual LTS classroom job. Plus I would get a taste of the specialist life.

    That is if they hired me. I think they would prefer a reading cert but are having trouble finding one.

    Another year of subbing but...at least this would be a totally unique experience for me.
     
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  3. Linguist92021

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    I think it's so lame that they would hire a LTS for the entire year, have them do the exact same job that a teacher would do but they only pay 1/3 and no benefits. Even if it's just a half year, it's so unfair.
     
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    But what choice do they have if they can't find anyone licensed to teach that class?
     
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    I'm sure there are maybe some positions where they can't find anyone, but there are countless licensed teachers wanting to teach and are qualified for the job.
    The district where I student taught in had a policy that 1 day after 50 % of the school year passed they would only hire a LTS for a vacant spot. That makes sense, but actually they could still hire a teacher with regular pay. My district hired me with full pay for the last 2 months of the year.
     
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    I was a LTS for an entire year (after I covered from April to June for the same teacher) and I received salary and benefits according to the teachers contract at the time. Many times districts must pay salary if you are in the same position for 20 consecutive days.


    I would definitely apply, it's a foot in the door! I am still in my position (4 years later).
     
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    Because you don't hire someone as a FT position for what is essentially a part time job. In my area, after a certain number of days, LTS pay increases over what is paid as a daily sub. Sometimes these positions do lead to full time employment....
     
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    My school regularly has several year-long LTS slots because people are unwilling to relocate and there just aren't enough teachers licensed in those areas (usually Math). It's not unheard of, especially in particular districts.

    The OP says that this position is probably going to a LTS because the district has been unable to find enough licensed candidates. It also says that the position is just for the first semester.
     
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    This is something I would love to do someday! Do you need a reading certificate or your special Ed certificate for a resource teacher?
     
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    My3kloves, the answer to your question probably varies from state to state. Let's hope one or another of the Texans stops in to shed some light.
     
  11. Rainbowbird

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    Well, actually, it is an LTS job whether they hire someone with a reading cert or a regular general ed. cert. The teacher who will be out on maternity leave has a reading endorsement, I think, but they are willing to fill it with a general ed. cert if they can't get a reading cert.

    Whoever gets it, the pay will be LTS, which in this district is lower than most around here. $75 a day for the first FORTY days, then step one bachelor's whether you have your master's or not (I do) and regardless of experience (8 years for me of full-time contracted teaching).

    The principal emailed me right back and asked me to update my Applitrack application. I subbed there two years ago. I also taught in the district 12 years ago before I left to have my children. So I know a lot of people, although my old p. has long since retired.

    I don't know if I will take it if offered. Shoot, haven't even had an interview yet, lol, but will think about it. I have a few other irons in the fire.

    LTSs are not getting hired in this district anymore, esp. if they have steps. They are trying to save every penny. So I don't expect to get anything more out of this than experience.
     
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    Sounds good, but what about that museum job, Rainbowbird?
    Just saying.



     
  13. Rainbowbird

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    :) I did apply but probably won't hear anything for a week or two. It closes next week and then they screen the resumes...then you get an initial interview with HR. THEN you go to the dept. head or director. Not ruling it out and not sure I want to LTS. Kind of keeping options open.
     
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    Honestly, I have seen several school districts this year than ever before just looking for long term subs for the whole year because school systems have NO money to hire teachers or give benefits for full time employees. I found those positions in my field (English) and my subject matter is highly competitive.

    Thank you Obamacare.
     
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    That sucks about the pay... and applying for another sub job is depressing (I've got an offer to interview for a sub job later this month)... but a LTS does a lot for one's morale. It lets you feel a part of something, where normally you feel like they actively try to disenfranchise you.
     
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    I agree with this. My lts really made me feel great and motivated again
     
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    The pay will be low for me (step one bachelor's when I should be step 9 master's--after 40 days.

    I agree with the morale part. My principals were incredibly supportive when I was a LTS. They treated me like every other staff member, IMO. I never felt like I was "just a sub". I solved a staffing need for them and I think they were grateful to have me there. There WERE a few specials teachers who never bothered to learn my name and would refer to my class as "Mrs. Smith's class" instead of Mrs. Rainbowbird's class. But they were few and far between.

    Of course LTsubbing also brings with it up to date and positive references!
     
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    In my state, you can have a general Ed endorsement but they prefer a reading endorsement. However I see a lot of ads stating they will accept either. I think this is because there is a shortage of the reading certs.
     
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    Salary is always somewhat negotiable, but I'm wondering if schools are budget conscious when considering you as a candidate? Stinks!

    How many years of experience did you have and how many years off before you re-entered the job market last year? Just wondering if you think these are factors in your difficulties? It's tough...I remember a few years ago we hired a teacher and the Supe didn't credit all of her years experience because she'd been out of teaching for quite a while.:(

    Wishing you the best!
     
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    Hi, Czacza,

    Thank you. I taught full-time for almost 8 years (left in the 8th year to have my first child and ended up not going back). I stayed home for 8 years and did some per diem subbing when my youngest entered kindergarten. Did a lot of volunteering and committee work while a SAHM. Took some education workshops at the regional education office to freshen up my résumé.

    The next year, I applied for a few jobs and was immediately offered a LTS job at my old district. I took it because my other option was waiting to hear about a permanent position at another school. Later learned from the dept. chair of that committee that they were planning to offer it to me! :(

    Last summer was better for interviews, but again I was faced with the decision to accept an immediate offer to be a LTS for 3/4 of the year in a nearby district or wait on what seemed like a potential offer for a permanent position elsewhere. It was mid-August, the LTS principal said she could not wait, so I took it.

    And you know the rest. This summer I've had 3 fantastic interviews and 2 of them seemed like sure bets, but I was always the runner-up. I'm pretty sure salary has something to do with it. It just seems unlikely that I would miss every job when my references are stellar and I have great experience, and the interviews have been so great. It doesn't help that I am in a fairly rural area with few openings. And there are two colleges within 10 miles with teacher prep programs.

    I guess I just have to keep trying. I am going to do the email the principals thing this weekend!
     
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    My thoughts exactly... :dizzy:
     
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    Where does this graphic come from and who is it supposed to be?
     
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