I almost walked out and quit my job today

Discussion in 'Secondary Education' started by tchr4vr, Dec 11, 2015.

  1. tchr4vr

    tchr4vr Comrade

    Oct 13, 2015
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    Dec 11, 2015

    Just had to post, to feel better.

    I have a terrible group of 11th graders. Let me rephrase that--90% of the kids in class are fine, but I have troublemakers who are constantly destroying the class. And unfortunately, our new administration does not believe in referrals or removing students from class unless it a fight or something incredibly serious--let's just put it this way--one young man called a young lady in my class "that white B***" and he is still sitting in the room, and his referral was filed - "for later reference"--the last three referrals I wrote on him were ripped up in my face. I guess I should be happy that this one wasn't ripped up.

    Well, anyway, my kids are heading into testing season, and I wanted to have them take a practice test--give me some guidelines for the remainder of the semester. I took them to the computer lab. When we got there, my troublemakers proceeded to . . .

    Throw a stack of printer paper on the floor
    Throw privacy screens around the room, hitting two young ladies in the head
    Push other students out of the way to get to their "preferred" seat - which they weren't going to get to sit in anyway
    Proceed to sing loudly at the top of their lungs and make farting noises as I ordered everyone back to class and they walked through the hall.
    Looked at me in my face and said "Oh, you're mad now? Whatcha gonna do?"

    Luckily, most of them got the message and sat down and did my alternate work, although I did forbid several from coming into the room-and luckily their basketball coach took them. I actually had to get another teacher in the room so I could step away for a few minutes so I wouldn't say anything I'd regret. I so wanted to take my keys, get in my car and drive away.

    I need to find a new job--I loved this place last year--what a difference a P makes.
  3. catnfiddle

    catnfiddle Moderator

    May 8, 2008
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    Dec 11, 2015

    Wait, the PRINCIPAL ripped up referral notices? Were they for members of certain sports teams? Wow, wow, and WOW.
  4. Peregrin5

    Peregrin5 Maven

    Aug 25, 2011
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    Dec 11, 2015

    Wow. I'm sorry. If you want to get into a power struggle with admin, maybe keep sending the student out of the class to the office, again and again, until they get the message that this student can't be in your class if they want learning to happen. I can't guarantee you'd win that power struggle but at least you'd send a message that you refuse to deal with this.

    In our district, our union fought for the right for every teacher to be able to have a student suspended from class. Admin could NOT send them back. If they did, they could have action taken against them by the union. Do you have anything similar?
  5. justwanttoteach

    justwanttoteach Cohort

    Dec 14, 2013
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    Dec 12, 2015

    start making a paper trail..start documenting behavior/things you said and student responses and behavior...times/dates/ etc it will show a pattern. Concrete Documentation is hard to refute
  6. Rockguykev

    Rockguykev Connoisseur

    Mar 3, 2008
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    Dec 13, 2015

    Is your school using PBIS as their discipline system by any chance? It sure sounds like it.

    Modern school discipline, where keeping a kid in class is so important that we are willing to have the other 34 kids feel unsafe. Yippee.
  7. ms.irene

    ms.irene Connoisseur

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    Dec 17, 2015

    I think at this point, "good" admin are far harder to find than the "bad." I taught at two prior schools where there were zero consequences, and it showed in the school climate. I am finally at a school where discipline is taken seriously, and the difference is incredible. It's hard to tell what you're getting yourself into from the outside -- I would start looking now for next year, and try to talk to people who work at the school or who have kids there and can tell you what it's really like, not just the "official version" you'll get in the interview. I was blatantly lied to by one P who told me "we don't have those kinds of problems here" when there had in fact been a stabbing on campus the day before.
  8. vateacher757

    vateacher757 Cohort

    Dec 29, 2007
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    Dec 26, 2015

    Exactly.....right now our district is in the first phase of PBIS, collecting data. They have been very "creative" with the punishment they give out for various infractions.

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