Hurricane Sandy

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  1. Aliceacc

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    As of this afternoon, over 500,000 homes on Long Island were still in the dark.

    And temperatures the next 4 or 5 nights are supposed to be in the 30's.

    My heart is breaking for all those in the cold and dark.

    We're still tentatively planning to open Monday, though the building still doesn't have power, and neither does Peter's. My kids do go back.
     
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    Got power back here in Monmouth County, NJ after close to 100 hours without power.

    House is alright; Irene took out most of the dangerous trees. Those that were worrisome managed to stay standing.

    Two trees all-but-destroyed the shed by knocking it clean off its foundation. Multiple trees fell around the yard and one fell from a neighbor's yard, crushed our fence, my dad's garden, and the gas station's fence that separates their back lot and our front yard.

    Had to sit outside in the cars (which were freshly gassed up before the hurricane) to charge the only cell phones that we had car chargers for.

    The grill got knocked over the storm, cracking a burner, so half of the grill was unable to be used safely.

    We cooked whatever food we had on the grill/side burner. My mom was able to cook food from the freezer until tonight (friday), when she had to go out before curfew began to get whatever food she could at the store. Luckily our freezer was packed, so stuff stayed cool enough until Thursday.

    One positive of it being cold out the past few nights: A way to keep food/drinks cooled

    Then many many negatives (Only way to stay warm was the fireplace).

    Towns near me are wiped out (In particular, Keyport and Union Beach, which both have National Guard troops on the ground) and part of my town flooded, but nothing as bad as towns right on the water. My house is about 2 miles as the crow flies from the ocean, and we are at one of the highest points in town.

    Now I need to worry about how I am going to get to college (I normally take NJ Transit trains to get there)
     
  3. Aliceacc

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    Prayers, Bros.

    The mom of one of Kira's classmates is going to visit friends in Breezy Point today to help. I have 6 bags of stuff to get to her house by 9 am; I hope she has room in the car for it.
     
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    A small part of an email from a friend, describing the storm:

    "Then, suddenly, an symphony of car alarms braying and headlights flashing everywhere as their electrical systems shorted, the odor of car fuel and seawater becoming near-suffocating. For awhile I was entertained by colorful lightning -- the wires overhead were snapping."

    She lost just about everything but her laptop and the clothes on her back.
     
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    :( so much...I really don't think the national news is telling the whole story. DH's corporate office is in Ohio...they don't understand why the sales force here isn't back in the field yet...:dizzy:
    Most of the telephone poles on LBI in NJ are missing, gas leaks present continued fire hazards, homeless neighbors....those lacking even 'the basics' to try and have a tiny bit of normalcy...
    So sad...it's going to take a lot of time and money to come back fom this...
     
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    We haven't had any contact with my grandparents in a few days. We know they are without power, but made it out on Wednesday for dinner & to charge their cell phone. My mom spoke with my grandma at work on Thursday, but their cell has been off since. It seems to be on now, but we are unable to leave a voicemail as the mailbox is full. Lots of family is calling us for updates on them.

    Since we got power back yesterday, we have been trying to reach them to get them to come over. Mom and I are taking a trip to their house today since we can't contact them through their phone.
     
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    cza~I don't think the news is showing the most important aspects of the aftermath. Most of what I heard yesterday was about the NYC marathon and the backlash the mayor received for wanting to move forward with it and then cancelling it after it got to be too much. I did see one story of a man who before the hurricane didn't have much, but was helping out as many people who lost everything to the hurricane that he could. Y'all continue to be in my prayers as the clean-up and rebuilding begins.
     
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    I hate to say it... but this is kind of normal for the news. They concentrate on disasters for a few days, then move on because the rest of the country is still moving on. It really sucks, because the people in the midst of the disaster are still attempting to get help.
     
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    It is true...that is the nature of the news. Everyone's heartstrings are pulled for a bit, but then they want to move on to new stories because 1) they don't want to be constantly fed with sad news and images of the same situation and 2) they are not directly impacted so it quickly fades in importance.

    When a horrible tornado rips through regions, it's covered for a few days and then completely tucked away. Though they usually do a "One Year Later" special segment to revisit the devastated areas which shows that despite the rest of the country moving on, those in the disaster zone are still very much picking up the pieces and getting things put back together.

    Still thinking of you all! :hugs:
     
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    Well, I still don't know what days (if any) my district is in session next week. The last phone call I got was days ago and that said that school was closed "until further notice." The website was updated yesterday and still says "Due to heavy flooding and power outages, school is closed until further notice." I might or might not have work on Monday and I have no idea about teacher convention days. :( I want to go back to work! We already used all our snow days plus one extra and we're still far away from winter. I hope my students are okay. It seems like my district was hard hit. Oh and....

    GAS LINES STINK! :p

    ETA: I reread this and I sound like I'm whining. I recognize how lucky I am to have only lost power for 3 days and no major property damage. :hugs: to everyone who is dealing with so much more.
     
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    So I just talked to my mom.
    I figured telling her a funny story about work last night would make her smile - it did.

    They are still without power.
    They need a new oil burner and water heater and they were getting estimates that their power may not be back on until November 20th.

    They are going day by day... well she said hour by hour. Their house was 28* when they got home from my Aunt and Uncles last night.

    They have claims in with all insurance and are just waiting.
     
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    I'm sorry to hear about your parents Chrissteeena.

    I will say that I was impressed with how my town handled the even/odd thing. We had a police officer booting all of the evens out of line today with his speaker. I waited less than 20 minutes for gas...yesterday I would have waited a minimum of 1 hour.
     
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    I don't know what town you said Christina, but ray the plumber has 12 trucks full of food, water, supples and are heading to linden hurst at noon tomorrow to BBQ. For everyone cleaning up.
     
  14. Aliceacc

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    Lots of people still in the cold and dark around here.

    This is the first night all week we haven't had at least 2 friends sleeping over.
     
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    I'll let them know. They are in Wantagh.

    Me and a co-worker were watching part of news 12 on my phone and saw Jones Beach. Oh my goodness.
     
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    The seats with the seaweed in it :(.

    Ocean beach, fire island is the most depressing.....I was there 1-3 nights a week last year, I know they will rebuild, it's just so crazy...the water has drained a lot, but the pics from today show water still.
     
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    It's so sad. I really wish I was able to come back to NY to help with something... anything.
     
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    Insurance adjuster called today, seems like they'll pay for most of the damages (aside from trees that fell in the yard and caused no damage, my dad will have to cover the removal of those trees + removal of trees uprooted) and lost food (Because it counts as a necessary living expense post disaster in a federally declared disaster area or something like that)
     
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    With people not always having phones charged, not everyone having email on their phone, a website sophisticated enough for secrecy and checks needed for a ballot is likely not going to be accessed by mobile version anyway, and gas issues that require saving for emergencies or job commutes much less to find a place offering a computer, I wonder if email is even going to do the trick completely for all areas.
     
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    LOTS of people don't have email yet. Communication has been a serious issue.

    Over 450,000 homes still don't have power, heat, or hot water. Temperatures last night were close to freezing.

    For lots and lots of otherwise civic-minded people, the election is the last thing to think about. They're more concerned with keeping their kids and/or elderly parents warm, getting a hot meal, and finding gasoline for their generators and so they can get to work.

    Lines for gasoline stretch on forever-- I saw one yesterday that was a good mile from the gas station.
     
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    From today's Newsday:

    "Henican: Left in dark with many questions

    November 3, 2012 5:51 PM By ELLIS HENICAN


    So many questions, so many unanswered, at the end of a very challenging week. Nice to hear the polls will be open on Tuesday. Now who's expecting to drive to one? . . . You wanted waterfront property? This badly? . . . How will Steve Bellone enforce his no-gouging threat? Has he ever been to the Hamptons in August?

    How much dumber are Long Island kids for missing school all week? How much smarter will they be after sitting in a classroom in July? . . . The Commack library has Internet and electricity? Have you ever seen the parking lot so packed?

    Obama surveyed Sandy's damage in Jersey and offers to survey in NYC? Should LI be offended he hasn't surveyed here? . . . Who needs a StairMaster? Minda Aguhob is recruiting fellow stair-climbing gym rats to deliver food and water to older folks trapped in city high-rises.

    If Sandy hit lands at Category 1, how would LI handle a Cat 5? . . . Whose idea was it anyway to put electric lines near trees? Think again, please . . . Can modern science please take a bow? With eight diesel-powered generators, all the Cold Spring Harbor Lab specimens are safe and sound post-Sandy.

    Sandy might not tip Romney/Obama, but what about Altschuler/Bishop? Whose supporters are more grateful? Whose are more fed up?

    Have you tasted one of those Sandy MREs? They're magic! One bite and your hunger is gone! . . . Did Expedia really say zero hotel rooms are available anywhere on LI well into next week? Zero? When was the last time that occurred?

    Do Mike Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo mind Chris Christie's Sandy star turn? Do Bellone and Ed Mangano mind they aren't even in the running? . . . A few gas-line tussles get all the attention, but weren't they outnumbered 100 to 1 -- maybe 1,000 to 1 -- by the gratuitous acts of kindness?

    What are LI cellphone towers made of? They can't withstand some wind? . . . Believe in climate change yet? How many more 100-year storms will it take? . . . Now do you regret replacing the landline with a cordless phone? Isn't there an old reliable stored in the attic somewhere?

    Insurance deductibles are based on the total value of the home? Can Cuomo really just waive them? Why didn't previous governors think of that? . . . When was the last time you needed D batteries? Outside of emergency flashlights, I mean. Who knew D batteries were even made anymore? . . . Who wants to start an Electricity Appreciation Society? This week, membership recruitment would be a breeze.

    Have you played this post-Sandy guessing game: Listen for the accents of the visiting repair crews and try to guess where they're from. Thank Alabama. Thank 'em all . . . You hear what Business Corners of Hauppauge did? Invited anyone to come and get connected for free.

    No marathon? You mean now we'll have to run 26 miles all by ourselves? . . . How much stiffer will Fire Island building codes be after this? . . . Next time someone says "evacuate," how many more people will evacuate? . . . Be honest now: Before Sandy hit, did you have any idea how dark Long Island could be at night?

    Am I doing the math right? With 3,100 LIPA workers and 526,000 LIPA customers in the dark (as of Friday afternoon), isn't that nearly 340 customers for every two-worker crew? Realistically, how many turn-ons a day? . . . Exactly a week ago, who described the Sandy pre-coverage as "over-hyped?" Really? What was I thinking"
     
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    I just heard on the news that in a state of emergency, NY can extend voting a day if original turnout is low.
     
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    I'm not sure what good a day will do. The people of Long Beach and Lindenhurst and Massapequa and Breezy Point and Howard Beach and Port Jeff have more urgent matters to worry about, even if somehow they do have the gasoline to get to the polling place and the time to do so before the sun sets at 4:30..
     
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    I agree, Alice. There will be a whole lot of NYers and people from Jersey who aren't able to vote, which is a shame.

    I have two friends who moved out of state this year that can't vote at all in the election. Mailing of absentee ballots was delayed due to Sandy, so they never received theirs.
     
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    Did they just recently move? Son moved in June to the next town and was able to quickly get his voter registration moved there.
     
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    Since NY and NJ are pretty solidly blue states, could they postpone their local elections? I would imagine the bigger impact will be on that than on the Presidential vote.
     
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    They moved about a year and a half ago.
     
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    They really should have changes their registration before now. It's sad that they can't vote, but they should be voting where they live now.
     
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    The districts are changing their minds and closing tomorrow and Tuesday; there simply isn't enough gasoline to run buses.

    Peter and I are both going in to our respective schools to help out; both schools are being used as drop off points for donations. They're also trying to set up alternate housing for kids who need it; they've asked any parents who can shelter a student or whose kids need shelter to let the school know.
     
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    I'm going in tomorrow...back to work! No Halloween in school. Trick or treat is cancelled in my town due to down wires and trees. It's just not safe. Looking forward to a return to some bit of normal tomorrow....and praying for those who dream of normal.
     
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    We're both carpooling.

    I have almost 3/4 of a tank of gas and Peter is at about 1/2. There is simply no gas to be had on Long Island. You have to wait a good hour and a half (according to our next door neighbor) AND be lucky enough to get on line for a station that is going to receive a delivery. Today after mass we treated the kids to the diner. We passed a HUGE gas line next to a closed Exxon station. An hour later the line was gone and the station was still closed; apparently those people chose a station that wasn't getting a delivery.

    It's maddening.

    I don't want to hear that the ports are clogged with debris. Send the tankers to Baltimore or Washington, then truck it up here. But aside from the fact that it's interfering with education, and with the return to normalcy, it's also keeping people cold-- hundreds of thousands of LIPA people are still in the dark and a decent number of them are relying on gas powered generators. Govenor Cuomo is asking New Yorkers for patience as they sit in cold dark homes, losing pay for jobs they can't get to. They've been patient-- for a week. Now they're cold and hungry and tired of being in the dark. Temperatures have gotten a lot lower since the hurricane; now they hover near freezing each night.

    Funny, it seems both presidential candiates have all the gas they need to continue their campaigns. And I've noticed that neither of them are sleeping in cold dark houses like a lot of the kids I teach. Do you think that maybe if either of them had parents on Long Island, or kids in school here, that the situation might be different????

    Yesterday the TV showed Janet Napolitano touring Massapequa or Lindenhurst with Peter King, promising help. That's wonderful. But the gesture would have been a whole lot more impressive if she had taken off that nice warm winter coat and given it to one of the people in the background who have lost everything, and THEN toured the devastation... before getting back into her nice warm, gassed up car and going back home.
     
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    I spent the day giving out hot food, water, snacks and supplies in lindenhurst....I felt like I was in a third world country...so sad, what I saw on tv was nothing compared to the people that were so thankful for a hot dog or peanut butter and jelly sandwich....the cars were all useless bc they had flooded and they were just bringing stuff out of their house and into dumpsters :(

    4 of my friends teach there and I just could not imagine if those were my students.

    My school is open tomorrow, just got the call...the students come from all 5 boroughs so I don't know how many of them will actually be able to make it in. And since I'm an hour away from my school, if the gas situation doesn't improve, I won't be able to get there Tuesday. Hoping for the best.
     
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    Just checking in. We finally got back power last night. Hudson county is a total war zone. Half of it still doesn't have power. There are down trees, power lines, FEMA trucks everywhere. School is closed until further notice. The gas lines are 3-4 hours long. I had to drive 22 miles last night to get gas so I could take my mom to chemo tomorrow. It's so bad we can't even get food because no place is open and the ones that are can't get deliveries. Sorry it sounds like I'm complaining. I'm really not- I know I am much luckier than others including my 2 aunts that lost their homes and cars and my best friend that lost his grandpa but I'm starting to break down over the situation.
     
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    :hugs:, Chem.
     
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    Huge :hugs: Chem. Thanks for checking in with us! Many prayers still going out for you guys.
     
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    Thanks for listening to my vent. My husband acts as if nothing is wrong and that I'm a crazy person because I am upset over everything.
     
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    Oh Chem, many hugs. Glad you are safe and prayers for you and your community.
     
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    Men process things differently which is why women need friends and AtoZ friends to vent to. Venting releasing stress for us, but listening to it makes stress for men. They just want to fix it. We want to talk about it and then fix it. Men have to release the stress, too, but they do it in different ways - hopefully, positive ones.
     

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