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  1. myKroom

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    Just curious, how many teachers would your school have for an incoming Kindergarten class of about 75?

    We are a small district that prides themselves on small class sizes! I purposely work in a small district in order to have a small class size!We are making a huge jump next year!! This year we have 3 teachers and a total of 54 students (18 a piece). So far we have about 75 signed up for K round-up. That's a 20 student jump...but we aren't sure if they are going to hire another teacher. I'm new to the district and am happy to have the job security...but, in my opinion, a class of 25 with no aide is unacceptable! If this is the direction my district goes...I'm not sure I want to stay! If I want a class of 25 I'll work in a bigger district that pays more!!!
     
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  3. smalltowngal

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    Our class sizes for K don't usually go above 20 so that means there would be 4 teachers for K if there were 75 incoming kindergarten students.
     
  4. YoungTeacherGuy

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    In my district, there'd be 3 teachers for 75 kids. Each K-3 class is up to 25 kids this year. Next year, we're looking at 28 kids in K-3.
     
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    We have about 82 kindergarteners this year and have 4 teachers.
     
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    We would have 5 teachers.
     
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    Same here. ALSO, until our budget crisis, even in classrooms of 20, the school board would provide classroom aides because that's a lot of little ones for one person to manage alone. I guess the days of half day kindergarten and classroom aides are far behind us now...:( Even our pre-k is now an all day program.
     
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    5...WOW!!! I just crossing my fingers for 4! :) That's awesome that they keep the class sizes so small! If they don't hire a 4th teacher AND they don't give us a full time aide I may be out the door. I'm busy enough with the 18 I have now...I can't imagine 25 kids all by myself!

    Thanks for all your responses...I was hoping for the magical number of 4!!
     
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    We would probably have 3 teachers, with one of the teachers doing half day for two groups of kids.
     
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    3 teachers
     
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    We would have four. The max class size is 21, and for a full class in kindergarten, there are support workers hired as well.
     
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    Not sure, I would hope for 5 but that is probably wishful thinking.
     
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    In the school I used to work at, one year there were 34 kindergarten students in ONE room. Beyond ridiculous! They eventually got an aide, but really, it wasn't that much of a help when there were so many kids.
     
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    25 is the 'limit', but they've gone over that if everyone is full.
     
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    3 27 is the contract limit for kindergarten in my district.
     
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    Are you Nor Cal or So Cal?
     
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    We would have 3 classes and they would each have an aide until lunchtime each day.
     
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    Where I am (southern CA), Kindergarten classes usually have 30 students. There is never an aide. I'm pretty sure there haven't been any aides in Kindergarten for years around here, except maybe bilingual aides that are in there for only a tiny portion of the day, and that depends on the school and the district.

    So, I hate to say it, but 75 students here would probably mean 2 Kinder classes of 30 students each and a K/1 combo. I know this because my friend student taught in the K/1 combo in this type of situation. Her class had 30, as did the Kinders. And this was in a high income area.
     
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    Clarification to my response above:
    75 in my school would mean 3 kindergarten classes of 23 and a K/1 split with 6 kindergartners and 14 Grade 1 students.
     
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    We would have 3 teachers and no aides. Our class sizes can be up to 30.
     
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    We would probably have 3 teachers with the possibility of a part-time aide but not a full-time one. The aide would depend on the needs of your students. Usually we try to keep class sizes around 22 but they could go up to 30.
     
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    Not to sound rude, but do you really have the luxury of leaving to go to another district because of the class size? I mean I know there are jobs out there, but they definitely aren't that easy to come by.

    Anyways, sometimes enrollment fluctuates from year to year. I do agree that 25 kindergartners without an aide is A LOT, but maybe it's just one year of high enrollment, or a couple of years before they can hire a new teacher. What is the budget like? Are they really strapped right now, a lot of districts are. I would deal with it for a year and then see what happens the following year. Besides, you don't even know for sure yet if they will hire another teacher or not.

    Again, I don't mean to come across as rude I just think that would be a silly reason to leave a job over, if its just one year. If it kept happening year after year then maybe it would be something to consider. I definitely wouldn't fret over it yet since it will probably be some time before you know for sure what is going to happen.
     
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    75 kids, we would have three teachers if that was the number in September, however if we were looking at 75 in the spring, they would probably guess we were getting more kids by the fall and go with 4.

    We have had 96 with 4 classes, I do not actually mind it, I think when there are over 16 kids, be it 19 or 25 it is all a mob lol.. no aide here either, but I do kind of prefer it that way.
     
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    Whenever we have had 25 in a class at the start of the school year, they have added a new class/teacher. That is how I got my job in 2000. It has happened at least twice since then. Our cap for K-2 is 20 plus 10%, so 22 averaged across the grade levels. I have never had to spend an entire year with more than 18.
     
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    We would have 3 K teachers and 1.5 instructional assistants (each K class has an instructional assistant for 1/2 of the day).
     
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    Definitely 4 teachers. A class of 25 kindergartners is not ok.
     
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    There are other factors playing into the possibility of me leaving. If an opportunity presented itself, yes, I would most definitely take the class size into consideration!!! My district has the money and has actually posted for three new positions for next school year already!
     
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    I agree, but apparently my district doesn't! We're slated to go up to 28 next year (up from 25 this year) in all K-3 classrooms! :help:
     
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    We would have 3. Right now we just have two half-day Kinders, and each has 25 kids.
     
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    From the responses I'm reading, it sounds like you are all in districts that value small class sizes much more than the district I am in. With 75 incoming Kinders, we would have 2 Kinder teachers and a K-1 combo. One teacher would have 33 in the class while the other K teacher assisted and then the roles would switch for afternoon Kinder. The K-1 combo might have an aide, but my guess would be that the aide would be a classified employee who, although hard working and dedicated, is not credentialed and fully aware of the dynamics of the profession. Congrats on your numbers:) We're 33:1 in K! Fun!
     
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    There would be 4 teachers for those 75 kids, for Full-Day Kindergarten.
     
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    I am in the Bay Area. Next year with that count we might end up with two k teachers and a combination k/1. Won't that be fun?
     
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    We'd have three teachers, and my district only has aides for severe/profound needs special education rooms. I'm surprised that just a few more students would make you want to leave- do you realize how incredibly fortunate you are to hold a kindergarten job and how many thousands of people would love to be in your place?
     
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    As I said before, there are OTHER factors that are playing into my decision...but this is something that weighs heavy on my mind! My feelings on class size have a lot to do with my upbringing and my personal beliefs about education...and it's something I don't take lightly!!! I do understand how lucky I am to have a job and would only leave if I had secured a new position elsewhere. I am simply trying to get an idea what other districts would do in this situation. Thank you for all your responses so far!!
     
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    The district I first student taught in will likely have up to 32 students per kindergarten class next year. Currently they have 27-28.
     
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    I am late coming into this post, so forgive me if it's been asked, but when people say the "max is..." I always wonder how that is achieved when students start later in the year. I started the year with 21, up from 17 the year before. I know have 25 kids in my room and the others have 24. We have 5 sections already. Would your school add another section in January if needed? We can't refuse students, they live in our attendance area.
     

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