Discussion in 'Early Childhood Education Archives' started by Myname, May 2, 2006.
May 2, 2006
and also how many teachers in the room?
We have 16 in the morning, and 16 in the afternoon, with two teachers per class... except in the full-day class- they have three (because one of the teachers whines and complains until she gets whatever she wants)
I only have 7, but in most center or school preschool classes there is anywhere from 15-26.
Oh, I should also add that a preschool teacher can have up to 13 preschoolers by his/herself.
We have 17, with 2 or 3 teachers at any given point. The other 2 classes have 18 and 19, with the same number of teachers.
We can have only 10 preschoolers per teacher in our state. We have 2 teachers in our class and there are maximum of 20.
20 with anywhere from 2-4 teachers (depends on how many student teachers and lab students we have during the semester.)
We can have a maximum of 20 children in class with two teachers, but a teacher can be by her/himself with 15 children.
we have 21 children.
6:30 to 8:30 One teacher (but kids are straggling in)
8:30 - 2:00 Two teachers
2:00 - 3:30 Three teachers
3:00 - 5:00 Two teachers (although they pull the other teacher a lot during this time to help in other rooms, leaving me alone with up to 20)
5:00 - 6:30 One teacher (kids are leaving)
Our ratio in Florida is 1 to 20 for 4/5 yr olds - which I think is CRAP!
Our ratio is 1 to 8, (4/5 year olds) with having 21 children and 3 teachers( by square footage in classroom). Next class their looking at 25, their thinking of 2 class rooms for pre-k.
1 to 8? I want to move to NY now!
May 3, 2006
1-8 is a great ratio. But, here, unlike NY, you can only double the teacher/child ratio in a "center" setting. In other words, since the ratio here is 1:13 for preschool, the maximum classroom size can only be 2:26. You can have more teachers, but no more kids of that age together. Where in NY, it seems like you may not have a maximum group size. Is that right weaver? I could be wrong. Does NY or anywhere else for that matter, out of curiosity, have a maximum group size to follow too?
Butterfly, that 1:20 ratio is STEEP! And crap, I agree with you on that. That must be crazy to deal with.
Butterfly I agree with you as well. That is horrible. I had 8 kids by myself for a few months and one was special needs to this day with 2 of us in the room she is a bit much. We have one day a week all day. The other days she is pulled out during the mornings.
I think 1 teacher to 10 is a bit much at times. Especially mixing 3's into the mix.
We have a class of mostly 3yr olds. Our ratio is 1:11. The class runs anywhere between 14-25 kids with 2 teachers.
May 4, 2006
In PA the ratio is 1:10 but it also depends on the space you have. For instance, I could have 10 kids, but I had a small room, so the state only allowed 7 kids at a time. The other preschool room was bigger so they could have up to 20 with 2 teachers.
In British Columbia our maximum group size is 20 children for preschool and 25 for all day care. For all day care the ratio is also 8 children to one staff. Preschool 15 to one is not great. Our class size is also based on the square footage.
We have 20 kids and two teachers. Although the ratio is 10:1 for 4 years olds, we cannot go above 20 and get an addtional teacher. Group size is capped at 20 for PK.
I think, not sure, but I think that it's 4:1 for ages 0-2, 7:1 for 3-year-olds and 10:1 for 4's.
I have 17 students with two that are half day. One is half day five days a week and the other is three days a week. Here I was thinking that 17 was bad but I couldn't imagine some of the numbers you all are working with. My classroom ages range from just turned three to five and a half. The ratio in CT is 1:10. There is one teacher and one assistant in my class.
Jenpooh, Albany,NY is where we are located. Goes by square footage in the classroom size, no more than 21 children in our room at a time,our room usually runs Sept- Aug.(with a graduation in June) 3 teachers with 21 kids is required though, due to classroom size.
Butterfly4, I feel bad for you, Florida is crazy to do 1-20, must be extremely difficult for field trips,etc. New York would look good to me too if I was in your shoes. I've discussed all your ratios with my Director, just when we think we have it bad , somebody else has it worse, and some of those numbers seem really high when your actually in the rooms with kids.
May 5, 2006
we have 10 kids and 2 teachers
May 6, 2006
I guess I'm the odd ball in this group. I started the year with 18, but three left within the first month. I've had 15 since then and I'm doing it by myself. I have had a occassionaly mother as a helper and that is wonderful when I'm trying to do a big craft day. Right off the top of my head I think Texas has a 1:20 for my class with out an aide. I am limited by space though as I only have 800 sq feet and that determines how many can be in my room.
May 8, 2006
Tina, is that in a public school? That's A LOT of kids!
May 11, 2006
Our ration is one teacher for every eight students. In my classroom (early, middle & late 2 year olds) there are 6 teachers & about 45 students. (No we are never in the classroom @ the same time because we have specialty classes)
May 15, 2006
I teach PRE K. i have 17 kids and just me. Here in GA its 18 4/5 yr olds to one teacher.
May 18, 2006
I'm still reeling from 20:1: - Butterfly, hats off to you. In Ireland the ratio over 2 & 9mths is 1:10 with 2sq metres for each child, one toilet & sink for every 10 kids. You also need somebody over 18 on the premises at all times, just in case. I have a private pre-school in my home and take only ten (due to space) and have one person working with me - so that gives us a ratio of 5:1.
not all of ny (state) is like that! lol
In the two pre-k classes I have student-taught in (here in western new york) they have had 15 students (with 1 teacher) and the other had 20 (with one teacher plus an aide in the afternoons). I know of one in this area that has 25-30 students per year, 1 teacher and 1 full-day aide.
NYS is a very hard place to find an elementary teaching job unless you go to nyc. I can't wait to get out of NY after I graduate! lol
Jul 7, 2006
My room is licensed for 30. When we are at max capacity we have 3 teachers at all times to maintain a 1:10 ratio.
In Virginia, the maximum in public school is 18 students with 1 teacher and 1 aide. I have always had the maximum. This coming year I only have 8 signed up so far but that will more than likely change.
We have 19/5 (at most times) but we also have 6 special ed children. We are essentially 2 programs (with two teachers, two different sets of guidelines etc) trying to live symbiotically in one room.
The HS/State Pre-K guidelines are 1 teacher 1 aid for 20 kids. The ECSE guidelines are 1 teacher NO AIDE for six kids--in a blended program-but if your kids have other needs--- constant supervision, diapering, eating assistance, then you will get an aide for that and if you need an aide for translation----you will get one for that. in a self contained program it is 2:10
I'll have 10 students for the upcoming school year, 3 with special ed. and I'll have 2 assistants. I can have up to 16 children with a maximum of 8 special ed. students.
that's wierd because we had a big controversy about having a 7th special ed kid because once the classroom ratio goes above 6 special with 14 typically developing you have a special education classroom.
Jul 9, 2006
I have 15 students with a classroom assistant.
Jul 11, 2006
We have 12 children and with two teachers.
Jul 12, 2006
Hi, I am a Pre-K Teacher in GA and I have 12 children in my classroom. I really like the small class size because you can do so much with them. I work on my own and I love it!
We have 3 teachers per room with 9 kids assigned to each teacher for "small groups". I like that I have the support of the other teachers, but on the other hand I wish I had the opportunity to really take charge of my classroom and my kids. :crosseyed
Jul 13, 2006
I'll have 12 two's with myself and an assistant teacher. That's the max for this particular pre-school.
We can have 40 in our room but we are in three groups, one of 12, two of 14, with three adults.
Jul 16, 2006
Right now I have 3 students. I teach special education preschool in a small district. I'm the only teacher at the school. I teach half-day, and the other half is for Title 1 reading.
At the end of last school year, I had 7 students. The most my program has had in a long time.
Jul 18, 2006
I teach Pre-K in the public school system. Therefore, I receive the same pay as a K-12 teacher. I am a certified teacher with an aide. I am with a state funded program. Therefore, we must have twenty students in order to receive funding. No more, no less. However, due to Hurricane Katrina, they raised the number to 22. But the number will return to 20 this school year. We have the same 20 kids everyday, all day (7:45-3:00).
Sep 22, 2006
In Massachusetts it's a 1 to 10 ratio. We need an assistant in order to take more.
I have 11 with no aide.