How early is too early to be worried

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  1. gr3teacher

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    My daughter is two years old, and has virtually no communication skills. Her entire expressive vocabulary consists of the words "hi" and "bye," and she does not seem to have developed receptive language skills. She will occasionally respond to her name, but it's less than 20% of the time. I can't do anything through the local school district until the new school year (they only begin screening students during the school year where they are 2 in September).

    Am I being too paranoid? I was delayed in speaking also... Asperger's... but I had more receptive skills by that age... I just didn't have any reason to talk. She also has other signs of Autism that make me wonder... refusal to make eye contact, difficulty with play, and stimming-like behaviors, loss of vocabulary (she did have the words mama and dada, meow and kitty, and "mi" for milk).

    I don't want to make too big a deal out of it... as a former SPED teacher, I'm afraid I'm seeing something where something doesn't exist... but at the same time, if there is a problem, I'd rather know sooner than later.
     
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    What does her pediatrician say?
     
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    What does your pediatrician say? He's my first line of defense in all worries, and he hasn't steered me wrong yet.
     
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    Great minds...
     
  6. gr3teacher

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    We haven't been able to take her to a pediatrician since her 18 month check-up. She unexpectedly lost her health insurance through her mother, and I'm not able to get her on mine until January 1. At the 18 month check-up, the pediatrician wasn't concerned, but at the 18 month check-up, she also had more than 2 words.
     
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    Document EVERYTHING, take careful notes.

    How are her other skills? Is is possible that the's concentrating so much on other things that speech isn't getting her attention? Kids tend to do that-- they'll either concentrate on the verbal or on movement, or on some other skill.

    But it sounds as though she's LOST vocab in the past 6 months? What skills has she gained in that time?
     
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    Call early childhood intervention for your state. Generally a parent, caregiver, or doctor can can call and they can set up an evaluation. Losing words is more significant than if she just hasn't started talking. In the mean time, lots of language and playing with as much talking as possible. I also like the flash cards and books that have textures/feely things.
     
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    I am not from VA, but have been looking for job possibilities and can across the Infant and Toddler Connection of Virginia (googling this plus the word "referral" should get you the phone numbers you need). Since your daughter is under 3 you can refer her to that program and if she qualifies you would be able to access services. Parents know their child best and if you are concerned I would get her checked out even if her pediatrician wasn't concerned.
     
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    I agree. I was also going to suggest an early intervention program to start an evaluation. Does your district have a specialist you can call? Ours is called Childfind. They can refer you to services in your local area.
     
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    I tutor a child who has been receiving language therapy for receptive and expressive language since he was 18 months old, so I don't think your daughter is too young.
     
  12. gr3teacher

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    Her other skills are fine, although she has regressed somewhat on the potty-training front also (back in June, she would indicate that she was about to go to the bathroom and give indications that she had a dirty diaper... she no longer does). She's gained the ability... well, to climb. That's the biggie. She also has minimal ability to use a fork (she can't load it with food, but she can get it to her mouth if food is already on it). She can also finish putting on a shirt once you get her head through. In a lot of ways, physically she is more advanced than her four year old cousin (although that's more a condemnation of her cousin's physical skills).

    I'll have to look up early intervention for Virginia. I agree with the losing words, that's the biggest thing that worries me. I was somewhat nervous about the possibility of autism anyway, just from her gene pool.

    Thanks for that, I'll have to look them up. I strongly suspect that a pediatrician would be worried about her now... she was where she needed to be at her 18 month check-up, but with her regressing...

    The district I work for won't do anything until she turns five. The district I live in wouldn't give any type of referral until September (they won't do anything with kids until the school year where a kiddo is 2 on the first day of school).
     
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    Every state has an early intervention program for children birth-3. Here's the link for Virginia
    http://www.infantva.org/
     
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    I know it doesn't help you, but may be helpful for others... Regarding the loss of insurance, you should have been able to add your daughter and wife to your plan if requested within 30 days of the termination of your wife's insurance. For qualifying events, it isn't necessary to wait for the open enrollment period.
     
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    Coming from a former preschool special ed. teacher... YOU NEED TO CONTACT EARLY INTERVENTION.
     
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    The regression is very... disconcerting.

    Contact Early Intervention first thing Monday Morning.
     
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    I hope this feedback has convinced you to act quickly. Let us know how it goes.
     
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    It definitely has. It seems like teachers have a tendency to either seem them as totally perfect or completely messed up, and I wanted to make sure I wasn't leaning too much to one extreme or another. Now that I have confirmation that I'm not being overanxious, I'll make sure something happens.
     
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    I don't think it's too early. Just have the proper evaluations done and listen to the opinions of professionals as well as your own instinct. I feel like a lot of parents where I need push for services very early that their children really don't need. But I don't think you're doing that at all. Take it one step at a time, it's definitely the time to start though.

    Does your daughter interact with other children?
    How are her gross motor skills?
    Does she attempt to communicate?
     
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    She does interact with other children, but it's primarily playing parallel to them, not with them. Her gross motor skills are just fine. She climbs, runs, jumps, stomps, etc. The biggest concern from the motor skills area is that she will pound her leg or her head when she gets frustrated or when she's tired, no matter how much I or her mother try to calm her down. There is some attempt to communicate, but there's less babble than there used to be. She seems to have a low tolerance for frustration, so that could be part of the issue too.
     
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    I don't know anything about Virginia but around here, Early Intervention is through the Health department, not the board of ed, and so it has no relevance to the school year or anything like that - you can request an evaluation at any time. I would suggest contacting an early intervention agency and they will tell you what they can do. But 2 years old is definitely not too early to worry about communication skills. If you have concerns (and it certainly sounds like you do) follow your gut and get a good evaluation. Your child sounds like a definite candidate for speech/language therapy at the very least.
     
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    Looks like you've gotten some great advice already, but I just wanted to reiterate that your concerns are absolutely reasonable. The loss of vocabulary and limited receptive language are both red flags for a two-year-old. I would definitely contact an early intervention agency and tell them you'd like to have your daughter evaluated. This evaluation should be free under Part C of IDEA. Good luck! The earlier your daughter begins receiving services, the better the outcome is likely to be, especially if you are willing and able to work with in partnership with them.
     
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    I agree that 2 is not too early and hopefully you can find some resources quickly. I friend of my family has a 2 year old and she actually sounds a bit like yours. She has already begun speech therapy.
     
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    My child ended up having Apraxia. He didn't speak a single word until he was 3. I got him speech when he was one and a half. Seeing my nephew who is 3 months old makes me realize that HE makes more noise than my son did at 2 years old. My child just didn't make noise. I didn't suspect Autism though, because he would play with others, make eye contact, etc. He was a HAPPY child. Just didn't make noise. lol (I can laugh now....I wasn't laughing then. I cried myself to sleep MANY nights.) He's 8 years old now, and he doesn't ever shut up. Every time he gets in trouble for talking too much in class, I smile a little inside. Oh, they just don't know. :) I am a huge supporter of early intervention. More help is better than not enough. Contact the birth to three program in your area. They will evaluate and determine if your daughter needs services. I never paid a cent for my child's speech therapy.
     
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    My pediatrician YELLED at me and said he was fine. His exact words, "He understand what you are saying. That's all you need to worry about!" You can't always rely on them to know about disabilities.
     
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    You're a man? WHY did I assume you were a woman?
     
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    Another comment...I'm sorry....this is my PASSION.

    Do NOT worry about not having insurance. You don't need it for the birth to three program. It's not based on income. If your child needs help, she will get it free of charge. You will NOT be the only parent who doesn't have insurance for his/her child. Actually, those with insurance are the minority. PM me if you need a pep talk or if you need advice on what to do. I've been there. I was SCARED to death. I understand.
     
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    I would've found a new pediatrician. ;)
     
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    :eek: Wow, that is very careless. I just approached a mom today about possibly having her little one evaluated and she said that her pediatrician had told her that "he'll talk when he's ready." Certainly that could be true, but I was a little miffed that the doctor was so quick to brush off the mom's concern without letting her know what her options were.
     
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    Yeah.

    With me, luckily I was being tracked by the hospital I spent most of the first 3 months of my life at through a micro premie study and they referred my parents to the EIP because my coordination was bad.
     

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