Holt math series

Discussion in 'Middle School / Junior High' started by myangel52, Apr 28, 2010.

  1. myangel52

    myangel52 Comrade

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2005
    Messages:
    431
    Likes Received:
    2

    Apr 28, 2010

    Our district has recently adopted the Holt line of math books for grades 6-8 (last year adopted it for Algebra... maybe the other high school classes, though I am not sure).

    Today we spent all day setting up a pacing guide and making sure that we will teach all of our state standards.

    I was just wondering if anyone has experience with this series, and if you would be willing to share tips you have discovered with it, or warnings, insight, etc. I am looking forward to it, because our previous math series was Connected Math Project and our students were not learning much from it. They liked doing the little projects, but even with teacher directed portions, they wouldn't grasp the concept... :(

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2.  
  3. robinsky

    robinsky Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2008
    Messages:
    57
    Likes Received:
    0

    Apr 30, 2010

    Last year my school used mainly connected math, with another more traditional text as a backup. This year we switched to Holt, with connected math as a backup. Holt has TONS of materials that can be useful - assessments, powerpoints, practice materials, etc etc. It is very straightforward, progressing logically from one concept to the next. However, it can be dry. If you stick to it every day it can become quite boring, something I am struggling with. Supplementing with activities from connected math helps, but it can be hard to weave them together.

    PM me if you have more questions!
     
  4. Aliceacc

    Aliceacc Multitudinous

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Messages:
    27,534
    Likes Received:
    6

    May 1, 2010


    That part has me confused.

    Where does teaching enter into all this? Isn't it up to the teachers to explain the concepts?

    In my experience, math texts are typically impossible to understand. My work as a freelance writer helped me understand why that was so. But my job as a teacher means I take the topics from the book and explain them to the kids so they do grasp the concepts. The textbook sometimes becomes a source for homework and practice problems.
     
  5. myangel52

    myangel52 Comrade

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2005
    Messages:
    431
    Likes Received:
    2

    May 1, 2010

    Maybe I just phrased it badly. My students wouldn't make the connections between the problems in CMP to the concepts that I taught them. They did better when I stuck to more traditional teaching, rather than the constructivist kind of learning that CMP promotes.
     
  6. Aliceacc

    Aliceacc Multitudinous

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Messages:
    27,534
    Likes Received:
    6

    May 1, 2010

    I'm sorry... I hope that didn't come off as critical. I just so rarely use the textbook, aside from homework, that it wouldn't really matter which textbook I taught from.
     
  7. myangel52

    myangel52 Comrade

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2005
    Messages:
    431
    Likes Received:
    2

    May 1, 2010

    Alice: :) Don't worry! I didn't read it that way -- just that I wasn't clear in what I mean. I do feel that I rely heavily on the books, but I am still kind of new to the field. I rely on it less than I did last year, so I think I am making progress.


    Robinsky: Unfortunately, next year we are asked to "maintain strict fidelity" to the Holt series -- no supplementing with CMP, unless we find a gap in the book that isn't matching the state standards. Just for one year, then we can start mixing and matching.
     
  8. worrywart

    worrywart Companion

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2006
    Messages:
    150
    Likes Received:
    0

    May 1, 2010

    Fidelity to Holt is better than fidelity to CMP!!!! Just my opinion though :)
     
  9. robinsky

    robinsky Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2008
    Messages:
    57
    Likes Received:
    0

    May 2, 2010

    Well, there is some interesting stuff in Holt. I find the Alternate Openers of each section often have a more student-centered way to begin a topic. There are also some projects and games. There is so much material that it can be overwhelming, but if you sift through it there are some good materials.
     
  10. mrsf70

    mrsf70 Companion

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    63

    May 2, 2010

    I haven't personally used either series, but I do know when I have tried to allow students to "discover" a math concept completely on their own, they couldn't do it to save their lives! I try to incorporate some exploration along with my direct instruction to speed up the generalizing and application. I'd never get through all of my standards if I let them do it all on their own.
     
  11. Genmai

    Genmai Companion

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2009
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    1

    Aug 14, 2010

    My old district used Connected Math (CMP), and I absolutely despised the curriculum. For a high-poverty urban district, I strongly feel that a Constructivist book is only good as a supplement for a traditional textbook curriculum. I agree with Alice's comment that all textbooks are hard to follow without good instruction, and it really takes a good teacher to teach math well regardless of the book. At the same time, a really terrible curriculum makes the young teacher's job really miserable. For sure, this was the case for me.

    Due to my complete exasperation with CMP, I personally purchased the MacDougal Holt Mathematics Course 2 (2010 edition) book and really like the straightforward delivery. I've found that many of the chapters closely align with our state standards and are broken down clearly enough for most kids and their families to follow. Yes, the teacher will need to do a lot still. However, she will not be hamstrung like she would be with CMP.

    For more information on "fuzzy" math:
    http://mathematicallycorrect.com/intro.htm#from
     
  12. Genmai

    Genmai Companion

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2009
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    1

    Aug 15, 2010

    With your traditional-style curriculum, is collaborative learning required?
     

Share This Page

Members Online Now

Total: 374 (members: 1, guests: 348, robots: 25)
test