Highly paid teachers - how do they do it?

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  1. frtrd

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    I was looking at some of the publicly-released teacher salaries in WA state. I noticed that some (a small few of course) made upwards of $90,000.

    But when I looked up their district's teacher salary schedules, I noticed that their salary ranges stop farrr below what their salaries are. So now I'm curious -- how are they making so much?? Any thoughts?
     
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  3. waterfall

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    Two ideas-

    1-coaching, tutoring, other paid "extra" positions

    2-They are "grandfathered in" to a higher salary scale than what the district has now. They started making that much years ago and then the district made the pay scale lower deal to budget cuts, but they didn't cut the pay of current employees, if that makes sense. My dad lucked into that situation. He has been at the top of his salary scale for a few years. The district has since revamped it so that teachers who get up to his level don't make anywhere near that much, but they couldn't really take it away from him since it was already in his contract. He makes far more than any teacher just coming up through the system in his district will ever hope to make and is frequently one of the people listed when the papers decide to publish articles along the lines of, "See! Look at how much teachers make!"
     
  4. MissJill

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    Longevity?
     
  5. mrachelle87

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    Our football coach makes that much..he gets an hourly salary for running the high school fitness center before and after school. It is my pet peeve...but football is king! And it is the real reason we are at school.
     
  6. czacza

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    Are you looking at the entire salary scale? Mine has several columns and 16 or 17 rows...at the top of my district scale, teachers with Masters plus 60 are making over 100 K.
     
  7. StudentTeach

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    My school salary is based on years of experience and degree level. Someone in my district who's on step 14 with a 6th yr +30 (basically a Ph.D. w/out a dissertation) can make $94,539. That's without counting any extra paid duties, and then beyond step 14 teachers get longevity pay which is like a 1-2,000 dollar increase each year accounting for fluctuations in living costs.
     
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    :eek:hmy: The teachers at the top of ours, 16+ years of experience with a Masters + 60 credits, make 60K.
    AND even with coaching both basketball and volleyball our coaches wouldn't even approach 100K... but we're in a pretty low SES area and Montana teachers don't make a whole lot anyway...
    Sure is interesting to know what other states pay their teachers though!!!
     
  9. Aliceacc

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    Wow, I'm in a Catholic school, with just a Masters, and I make quite a bit more than that.
     
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    LOL then you probably shouldn't move out west! :lol:
    But then again, it's always about Standard of Living too. The median income in my city is 42K...
     
  11. Caesar753

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    Salary schedules from district to district really aren't comparable. They can be hugely different, particularly in different parts of the country.
     
  12. Aliceacc

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    I agree, though, that if a person's salary is literally way off the scales, it's probably a matter of either having been grandfathere in or of coaching.
     
  13. Caesar753

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    I think you're right.
     
  14. iteachbx

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    I could be wrong...but wouldn't you need a lot more credits than that to get a PhD?
     
  15. MissCeliaB

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    Not necessarily. It depends on the program. In many PhD programs, the dissertation is as few as 3 hours and as many as 12 hours. If during your 6th year you went full time for graduate students, which is often considered nine hours, then that would be 18 hours, plus 30. Sounds about right for an ABD.
     
  16. giraffe326

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    It is very regional. In NC, the top salary (Masters + National Boards + 35 years) is $65,520. They could qualify for longevity and make a bit more, but it wouldn't be a whole lot.
     
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    35 years...Wowza...I'm in my district for my 13th year with my masters pls 60 and make considerably more...but I'm in a strong union, a high SES and high achieving district and geographically in an area that pays more than NC.
     
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    NC conditions are horrid. The salary is state mandated, so you can't go to a better paying district. There are required duties with no extra pay (car/bus duty, lunch duty, recess duty- all daily), no pay for extra curriculars (except coaching), I get 3 45-minute planning periods per week, etc... No pay for a Masters+ anything. We are getting a 1.2% raise- our first in 4 or 5 years.

    I'm trying so hard to get out of here! The COL is not as low as people think it is. My 1 bedroom apartment was $800 a month with no utilities.
     
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    I received an email that I'm moving up one pay scale, which equates to a whopping $380/yr. I'm entering my 3rd year of teaching and this year is the first time anyone has moved up in their pay scale in 4 years.

    One of my colleagues has worked for over 15 years and we practically make the same amount of money.
     
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    Wow. I'll be making more than that before I'm even close 35 years old, let alone 35 years in the job. Of course cost of living comes into play but still!
     
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    The top of my salary scale is 76000 I believe. However, the state is getting rid of salary scales anyway in order to implement pay for performance. Yippee!:rolleyes:
     
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    I agree with the above.
     
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    Just checked our payscale and a teacher with a PhD and 35 years experience gets just under 62,000! :eek:
     
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    Wowza... a PhD with 28 years of experience only makes $66k in my district :(
     
  25. smalltowngal

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    Just checked the district I live in.....they don't have a separate scale for PhD and it tops out at 33+ years. So, with all that, this teacher would get $63,080.
     
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    I earn close to this with 3 years of teaching experience and no masters degree.
     
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    Our scale starts at $50,000 on the low end for a first year teacher with a bachelor's degree....and goes to almost $100,000 with a doctorate, national board certification, and several years of experience.

    This is, of course, of they don't remove this with our new contract. :mad:
     
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    I have 35 years, Masters + 21 and would make 48400. But I am ok with that as long as they let me teach math and science, as long as I don't have to get bogged down in all the education controversy. Math and science has nice clear cut answers and I used to work in industry getting those answers without all the insane and controversial best practices and made more money.
    I better say now that no, I do not believe for example, that all students should have to take algebra 2.
     

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