Help! Running Records : Meaning vs Structure!!!

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  1. AnthonyA

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    Hi. I'm having difficulty differentiating between the two.

    I understand that Meaning refers to it making sense, while Structure refers to if it sounds grammatically correct.

    However, I always find myself marking one with the other. I'm not sure if that's how it should be. I assume it shouldn't be that way. Otherwise, there would be the Visual column and then one column that has Meaning/Structure together as one.

    Can someone give me a concrete example of an error which would be Meaning, but not Structure, and vica versa?

    Thanks!

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    czacza Multitudinous

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    You know it's a meaning miscue when you ask: "Does that make sense?"

    It's a structure miscue when you ask: "Does that sound right? (Is that how we say it in English?"
     
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    Consider this sentence:

    I saw a horse running down the street.

    Reading house instead of horse would be a meaning miscue (a semantic error, as with substitutions that would be funny if you were playing MadLibs).

    Reading stop instead of the street would be a structure miscue (a syntactic error: stop, whether verb or noun, can't modify the verb run).
     
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    I saw a horse runned down the street.

    Another structure miscue- we don't say runned in English, that's not how we say it...
     
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    Would runned be a structure miscue or a morphology miscue?
     
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    I would even count house for horse as a visual cue too. Is that not true?
     
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    Some miscues fall in more than one category...

    morphology? The only miscues that I've ever seen discussed are:structure, meaning and visual...
     
  9. AnthonyA

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    I would mark house for horse as a visual miscue as well.

    Alot of it is subjective.

    Ultimately, an error is an error and counts the same.

    It's just something I brought up because I like to have things perfect :blush:
     
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    I look at MSV as what is the child using? and what is the child not using?
    So I would mark house for horse as a semantic miscue but the child is using graphophonics because of the structure of the word. So when I go to work with that child, I know he looks at the word for beginning sounds, ending sounds...but needs help with semantics (does that make sense?).

    That's why running records are so effective as far as individual help for each child.
     

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