Help needed with North Carolina Info.! Please!

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  1. Traveler1321

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    Hi everyone! This is my first post. I'm one of those people who went back to school when I was rounding 30. I have worked with children both here and overseas for the past 20 years. I was able to work and eventually get my El Ed degree/certificate for here in PA. I am currently a building substitute for a good school working with K-5 and tutor after school. So everyone I please need your help! I have only looked at teaching in FL before. There were nice areas and very dangerous ones. I have worked with inner city youth my entire career but I am trying to stay away from urban centers. I don't need to live in the woods, but Orlando/ Philly type cities are too large. I also only checked into one place in NC and the salaries to start were around 25 K { I observed Fl salaries could range from 28K to 36K in less thna 50 miles!} . So can anyone help in advising me on a nice county to look into on the eastern side of the state { less than an hour to the coast}? Salaries? I am sorry this post is so long....I will keep others short! Thank you everyone!
     
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    I have no idea about the coast as far as salaries and whatnot, but I don't think that they vary that much. In the western/central part of the state you start anywhere from 25,000-28,000 or so. As far as areas near the coast I cannot be of any help sorry!
     
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    Thnaks for the start!

    Thanks you giving me the information you had. I appreciate it. I will keep searching. Have a great day!
     
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    I am a little over an hour from the coast. The starting pay here is about $25K also, but the cost of living is less in the more rural areas due to less taxes. I live right outside Fayetteville and we have tons more money here than we had in NY - and we made a lot more in NY. It does get really hot here in the summer, but it's COLD this week! I think all counties have their good and bad spots. I've taught in two counties down here and even though I'm in a low SES area, I couldn't be happier than where I'm at this year. The principal and staff can make all the difference in the world. I actually make a little less than I did last year, but I wouldn't trade the money for the hassle I had with my administration last year.
     
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    Thank you so much for the information. I will research where you spoke of. Summers are very hot here in PA too and I have experienced Fl summers with no AC so I should be ok. I may have more questions after some more research. Thanks again for replying. Have a great day! Martin
     
  7. amarie

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    If you could travel a little more inland, I would highly recommend the Raleigh/Durham area. If I could teach anywhere in the country, that is where I would be. Great culture, an educated workforce, and close enough to both the mountains and the ocean for the sake of convenience. Plus, the salaries are not bad in terms of NC.
     
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    I live in NC and have been checking the starting salaries. Because some areas have local supplements the counties vary some. Guilford has one of the highest starting salaries (30,000+ I think), but Wake County (Raleigh) has better pay after the first year! Also if you choose to work in Guilford, close by counties have less urban areas for raising a family. I live in Randolph county, but want to work in Guilford. Alamance county is also nice, and Northern Alamance is relatively close to Wake and Durham Counties. I live in a small town so close to Guilford county that some of the Guilford County Schools are actually closer to me than Randolph County Schools! We are not far from larger cities and have most everything we need within a close distance.
    Charlotte-Mecklenburg schools can be okay too, and the Huntersville/ Cornelius area of the county has some VERY nice houses/ neighborhoods and schools. Good Luck!
    PS Go to www.ncpublicschools.org then to the employment section, then look at individual school system websites and most of them will list the salary schedule on them.
     
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    Hello. I moved from Michigan to NC for a teaching job. I teach in Johnston County which is right under Wake County (Raleigh is in Wake). I really like it. This area is pretty rural, but it is growing fast. New schools are being built every year because tons of people live in Johnston county and work in Raleigh. I live in a smallish town about 5 minutes from downtown Raleigh and I really like it. I am close to a bigger city, but I live in a smaller one without so much traffic issues. My school is out in the middle of nowhere which is fine with me, but it's a nice new school (only 2 years old). Anyway, pay here is sort of low I guess, I started at 28,000. Plus this school district is not scary huge like Wake county, and like someone else said we are a reasonable distance from the ocean and mountains.
     
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    Just a heads up: I found out today that North Carolina is the only state that makes it illegal to have a union. No union might equal less job quality. I am definitely considering NC as a potential NO now.
     
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    I believe that statement may be misleading. MANY states (and commonwealths) are "right to work states." Many are not allowed to have unions. Most do not allow teacher's strikes.

    In those states, instead of unions, they have associations. They do not have the clout unions have. At last count, there were 28 states that are "right to work" states.

    You'd be eliminating over half of the states in the US if you excluded "right to work" states.
     
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    I teach in NC, and one thing they do is give you credit for previous work experience if it related to teaching. I was actually in engineering before, but because I trained people I got three years of credit, so I started as a fourth year teacher which helped with they pay.
    Here is the link to the salaries: http://www.ncpublicschools.org/docs/fbs/finance/salary/schedules/2007-08schedules.pdf
    And here is the link to last years supplements per county:
    http://www.ncpublicschools.org/docs/fbs/finance/salary/supplements/2006-07supplements.pdf

    In Nash County you are about 1.5 hours from the coast and 45 minutes from Raleigh.
    http://www.nrms.k12.nc.us/
    Edgecombe County is about the same.
    http://www.ecps.us/education/district/district.php?sectionid=1
     
  13. amarie

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    I see where you are coming from, from what I've researched I've noticed many states do not have unions. However, from what I've come to understand NC literally states it is illegal. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something, here is the link to where I got a majority of my info:

    http://www.enotes.com/everyday-law-encyclopedia/teacher-s-unions-collective-bargaining

    In any case, finding out NC had no union was a real bummer for me. It's beautiful there and I would really have liked to raise my kids there. However, my fiance is a professor so the probablility of him getting a job there might have been difficult in the first place.
     
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    North Carolina has an education association, just like all other "right to work states." In "right to work states" associations only have something to do with collective bargaining IF the district involved "invites" them to participate. In otherwords, no union clout. But you find that in so many states.

    Here is the link to North Carolina's state afflicate of the NEA.

    http://www.ncae.org/
     
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    Would you still say working in North Carolina is nice? If so, why?
     
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    I think it depends on where you work and who you work for. I had the principal from you know where last year and it really sucked - and the NCAE didn't do much to help. This year, I don't have duty-free lunch and I'm in a poorer county, but the staff and administration are wonderful. I was actually confused when my husband told someone I come home from "work" and work out - I said, "No, I come home from school and work out," and then realized that school is work:) I make a few hundred less in the county I'm in now due to the difference in the supplement - but I'd take that any day over that crap I was put through last year. I have free time for family and friends, I've lost 20 pounds since the start of the school year, and I love going to work! (And I HATE snow!!!!)
     
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    The minimum salary in NC is $29,750. The majority of the counties/districts also have suppliments. My county, near Charlotte, pays a $2000 suppliment, so I will make $31,750. Plus, the last few years, NC has been raising their base salary 4-5% per year.
    I get duty free lunch once a week. When I first moved here, I was shocked that teachers had lunch duty. It's not bad though. I have 2 hours and 15 minutes of planning regularly. I usually have another 30 minutes, but not every week. I, again, am used to teachers getting 40-45 minutes daily. However, school days are shorted by over a half hour compared to where I am from. So, I guess it evens out.
    I don't know much about the coastal area, so I am no help there.
    If they raise the base salary by $1000 this year, it will definitely put NC right in the average base salary range.
    As for my school, it is not a perfect fit for me and I will be seeking employment elsewhere for the next school year. I love my kids, love the administration. My problem lies more with an hour commute each way and the fact I don't quite see eye-to-eye with the other teachers in my grade. Very high schoolish, and I don't like it (ironically I am younger than them...).
     
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    Thank you everyone

    Thank you everyone for helping me with all the North Carolina info. I am amazed with all the help from my initial reply. I will reread everything and start some serious research this weekend. Since I am not a full time teacher yet {I am a building sub=every day work all grades and specialist-low pay no benefits-great school though} I have never been in a union. Everyone I know is also not in a union so it's hard for me to weigh this as an important reason not to be in NC. Please everyone I am not saying unions are not a good thing, just that I have always worked without one. I would appreciate any and all replies as to areas that have lower crime rates and medium cities. I live in an area with about 80,000 population. I am still trying to narrow it to the mid to coastal side. Thank you so much everyone!!! Have a great holiday season!
     
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    I live on the coast of NC

    I live and teach in Wilmington, NC. It is in the southeastern region of the state, right on the ocean and river. The beach is 15 minutes from my house. I am originally from NY and thought I may want to work there, but once you live in NC you may never want to go back! All of NC teachers receive the same pay and benefits according to their salary step, but each county gives a different supplement. The salaries are not great, but if you get your National Boards (12% pay increase) and a Master's (likewise increase) you can live comfortably. I used to live in the Raleigh area, which I loved, but it's very metropolitan now - a rapidly growing city. They treat their teachers well, professionally and with a good supplement and some with signing bonuses. Here it is very beach-like and laid back and there is no shortage of teachers other than special ed, science, or math. We are always short of those. We are treated fine, but I liked teaching in Raleigh better. Good luck on your decision.
     
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    I recently moved from Michigan to North Carolina. I work in the Raleigh/Durham area and the starting pay for a first year teacher is around $28k, then each district offers its own supplemental pay. Even though I'm not very happy with the specific school I'm in, I love where I live! I am currently preparing to switch districts, and recommend looking into Wake County.
     
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    Thank you !

    Thank you for this helpful info. I have been away from AtoZ for a while. I have heard many good things about Raleigh. When i researched the top 10 areas/cities in NC, Raleigh had the lowest crime rates next to Cary. Do you feel this is true? Do you know of other counties/cities above say 80,000 that would have these attributes? Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks again! Martin





     
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    Thank you for your reply to my ?'s. I have been away from AtoZ for some time and apologize for replying so late. I have heard many good things about the Raleigh area. When I did some research on crime it Raleigh placed second best next to Cary in low crime for a large population. Do you agree with these stats? How about Johnston county? I sent for my NC certificate form PA over a week ago and am hoping to apply this spring. Any info you can add would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again! Take care, Martin
     
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    Thank you for your reply to my question. I have been away form AtoZ for some time. I have sent all my pA credentials to NC to be certified and have done some crime stat research. Of all the larger areas Raleigh is ranked #2 for low crime next to a city called Cary. Do you feel raleigh is lower crime for it's population? Any other areas you would suggest looking into? I live in a city that has about 100,000 now with similar cities next to it. I am trying to avoid mega cities and extreme small towns too. Thank you for all the info, and any more you have to offer would be greatly appreciated. Take care, Martin
     
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    Yes, Cary/Morrisville area is known for it's little to none crime rate. After having lived here for a year now, I have been trying to move to Cary myself. Cary is located in Wake County, which is supposed to be one of the best school districts in the state (high in pay too!)
     
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    Thank you

    Thank you for replying so quickly. I have heard a lot about Cary. I was wondering since it is so desired...is this a NC area that is high priced to live in? I heard some areas are getting really high from Northerners migrating there? { This is happening in my area in PA with an influx of New Yorkers and people from NJ} Is this an area where everyone wants to teach...thus being highly competitive? { IN PA we sometimes have 100 for one Elementary opening!} Sorry for all the ?'s..one last one, please! Can you give me any feedback on the Raleigh area...crime, cost of living, etc? Thank you so much and have a great day! Martin
     
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    Most areas of Cary are a little more expensive than the surrounding areas. I live in a nice area of Durham, about 10 minutes from Cary and really enjoy it... very little crime rate, and less expensive. Raleigh is a big city... I don't know TOO much about the crime rate, but the cost of living is quite similar to that of Cary. Each city in the triangle area has it's ups and downs, like any other city. If you found a specific school/living area, I'd be happy to give you or get you more specific information.
    There are MANY northerners down here (myself included ;). Wake County schools have been known to be competitive. However, the problem lies in the fact that they do not have much turnover because people are so happy with their jobs. When teachers aren't leaving, there is no room for hiring. At the same time, when there is an opening, I've found that you almost have to know someone or be lucky to squeeze in. I've only been here 2 years though, and am still trying to get into the county system.
    I'm sure you have many more questions, as did I before I moved here. Feel free to email me at rmckinnie@mail.com if I can help with anything else!
     
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    Oops. Sorry, I didn't realize it was going to block my email address. Send me a message with your email if you're interested and I'll be happy to reply and help out!
     
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    I am not a big fan of unions (not to be changing the subject)
    I did not know there were places with no union
     
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    Back to subject at hand: North Carolina

    Someone just told me that if you live in N. Carolina for one year, you can go to college for free?? Is that true?
    I have three boys that will be going to college
    I am a teacher who cannot seem to get a job in Ohio (too much competition)
    I hate winter and the weather here.....North Carolina sounds enticing.
     
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    No, you still have to pay for college, but I think we are cheaper than other places. Also, once you have been in NC 6 months (I think) you can qualify for certain forms of financial aid, but I don't know what they are as compared to other states, I have always lived in NC. The 6 month thing is to give you NC residency.
     
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    Sounds like my friend is mistaken!! It figures.
    Thanks for the feedback.
     
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    Thanks again and more ?'s

    Thank you for replying to my questions concerning Cary, NC. I am going to call Wake county directly because I believe they are having a job fair in April. I also saw other job fairs, but have difficulty getting off before the end of the school year here in PA. Can anyone tell me if their is a big job fair for Raleigh? I keep coming back to Raleigh, because I have heard that is the best place to try if you're from out of state since it's so big. Any thoughts on this? Thank you everyone for the help!
     
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    Wake County (as well as surrounding counties) all have their teacher job fairs in April. However, Wake County also does send out recruiters to various colleges. I noticed on the county's website that they will be at several colleges/universities in PA over the next few months. You should check it out and see if there are any locations near you that you could check in on.
    http://www.wcpss.net/perl/publish/webevent.cgi?cmd=opencal&cal=cal10

    I believe Wake County's job fair locally is Saturday, April 19. They do require that you already have an application on file before you apply for an actual position (plus it makes you look good ;)

    http://www.wcpss.net will give you all the information you need, as well as valid contacts. Good luck!
     

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