Great Quote

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  1. Zelda~*

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    I went to a Clinton Anderson workshop (he's a horse trainer, in case you were unaware) in June.

    He said something that I thought was brilliant. "Frustration begins where knowledge ends."

    Even though he was talking about horses, I thought this really applied well to students--or anyone else for that matter.

    A good example of this, at least in my classroom, is when kiddos are reading. When do the behaviors start? At their frustration level. Where does their frustration begin? Where their knowledge ends.

    Anyway! What are your thoughts? :)
     
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    True. :)
     
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    I think learning begins where knowledge ends.
     
  5. JustMe

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    Well, yeah...but if a student becomes frustrated because they don't understand and the learning becomes difficult, it's important to have a teacher able to help them through that frustration.
     
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    But there isn't a clear demarcation. I think learning happens where knowledge has thinned out to a certain extent - this would be Vygotsky's zone of proximal development - but one generally needs to have SOME knowledge in order to organize incoming information well enough to notice and capitalize on the patterns in it.
     
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    (JustMe, I didn't see your post while composing mine.)
     
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    I think there is also a certain element of "fear" along with frustration for some students. The unknown can be frightening, and no one likes the possibility of failure.

    And that's of course, where we as educators come in. :)
     
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    My first thought for this quote was for myself as a teacher...I didn't even think about it applying to students right away.

    When do I get frustrated as a teacher...when I don't have enough knowledge to properly deal with a given situation.

    Great quote.
     

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