At what grade do you start placing your kids in G.T. in your district, and what kind of program does your district have, pull-out/self-contained? Last year was the first year we identified K, and I hear it's worked wonderfully. We're a Title I school and have most kids who enter K don't even know their colors and then we have a sub-population of K's who are proficient readers. We felt there was a need to save the proficient readers from hating school, so they're all in one K class while the other K's are learning colors and ABC's. I've heard this class is reading chapter books and writing great stories. I was at our State conferences last month and talked with another GATE teacher about identifying K kids and she was really surprised. I know there's not many self-contained gifted classes in our state. It's not the most ideal teaching position, I'd prefer a pull-out program myself, that way I wouldn't be responsible for all the other subjects and enrichment, too. A pull-out position is an easier job in districts loaded with lots of perks, not that they don't work hard too, but they're not responsible for grades, parents are a minimum, discipline problems are generally dropped from the program. How about your district?