FTCE English 6-12

Discussion in 'Debate & Marathon Threads Archive' started by TheConspiracy, Mar 29, 2006.

  1. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    May 10, 2012

    What have you studied by way of literature?

    Have you ever had a class in (a) linguistics class or (b) history of English or (c) structure of English words?
     
  2. GiverofEnglish

    GiverofEnglish Rookie

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0

    May 10, 2012

    I have had many classes:
    Expository Writing
    Fundamentals of Writing 1 and 2
    Advanced Expository Writing
    Irish Renaissance Lit
    Literature of the Renaissance
    Children's Literature
    American Literature Part 2
    Origins of Poetry
    Immigrant Literature
    and I am currently enrolled in Writing to Communicate
     
  3. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    May 10, 2012

    Whew! With that transcript, you should be in fine shape for the literature and the composition (and, yes, the culture: it's kind of hard to study literature of the Renaissance, Irish lit, American lit, and immigrant lit and not come away with some sense of the times).

    Elmer's list of terms in language and linguistics, at the beginning of this thread, should help you with the rest. Look the terms up on line, and feel free to ask questions here.
     
  4. GiverofEnglish

    GiverofEnglish Rookie

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0

    May 10, 2012

    Do you think it's a decent idea to read some of SparkLit. Specifically the pieces that I have not had to opportunity of reading? Just to get some general knowledge of plot, characters, and storyline?
     
  5. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    May 30, 2012

    Sorry I missed this, GiverofEnglish. The short answer is, "Absolutely." Make that work for you two ways, however: do glean the information, but also pay attention to how SparkNotes packages the information, because it's likely to come pretty close to what the Praxis II scorers are looking for.
     
  6. can'tquit

    can'tquit New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0

    Jun 5, 2012

    Hey Mish I totally understand what your feeling I took the FTCE English 6-12 and got a 197/200. You could imagine how upsetting it was to just be 3 points shy of passing. I am scheduled to retake this exam in June of 2012. This test is the only thing in my way from starting my student teaching. The essay I felt was my downfall and most likely what caused me not to pass with a 200 and above. Did you retake the exam if so how did you do and what tips do you have for me??
     
  7. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Jun 5, 2012

    Welcome to A to Z, can'tquit. If you haven't already done so, you might want to look through the thread "Elmer's English resources": the glossaries there and the discussions might be useful. (The materials may have been posted for a different state's test, but the practice of English language and literature really doesn't vary so much from state to state.)
     
  8. zmanzelli

    zmanzelli Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2012
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0

    Jun 9, 2012

    Just took it

    I just took this test last week so I'm still waiting for the results. My feelings is that the majority of the questions were on teaching strategy and what they did was give you four choices, two that were absolutely wrong, but two that really either one could be right depending on the situation. Approximately 20% of the test was actual English or Literature...of course they are all different. If I didn't pass and have to retake it, I don't even know how I would study different because it really was difficult to determine which one would be best.
     
  9. GiverofEnglish

    GiverofEnglish Rookie

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0

    Jul 11, 2012

    Hello,
    I take my Praxis this Saturday and I have been taking practice tests from various different books, but the problem is that I will take one and do really well, but then I will take another and not do so great. Why is this and how do I overcome it???
     
  10. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Jul 11, 2012

    The reason that comes most immediately to mind is that the quality of the standard test-prep books is variable, and so is the quality of the questions in them.
     
  11. GiverofEnglish

    GiverofEnglish Rookie

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0

    Jul 11, 2012

    So I have an ets practice book, should I rely more heavily on that one?
     
  12. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Jul 11, 2012

    I don't know, to be honest, because I don't know that book. If you're finding the questions less irritating or badly phrased, though, go for it.
     
  13. bluescholar

    bluescholar New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0

    Jul 24, 2012

    Hello,

    I'm new to the site and open to suggestions/insights as to how to begin prepping for the English subtests. I plan on taking all of them in November, but was wondering if anyone recommends taking the subtests one or two at a time. I already downloaded all of Elmer's resources as well as looked over the descriptions of each subtest on the CSET website. I was also thinking of buying SparkNotes 101: Literature because I feel like I'm lacking in this area. I'd greatly appreciate any further suggestions.
     
  14. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Aug 8, 2012

    mtheodoris, clear out some PMs, please.
     
  15. failed3x

    failed3x New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2012
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0

    Oct 3, 2012

    Can I get a copy of that study guide please? my email is momto2cuties@yahoo.com I have read the books and failed 3x. (closest was 198/200). I have had to change my major from English Ed to English because I didn't pass the test in time to do my student teaching.
     
  16. failed3x

    failed3x New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2012
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0

    Oct 3, 2012

    Hello everyone, I am an English Ed major and can't pass the FTCE english 6-12 test. Can anyone send me a study guide they used that worked please? momto2cuties@yahoo.com
     
  17. failed3x

    failed3x New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2012
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0

    Oct 3, 2012

    and I can't pm I think because I am new.
     
  18. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Oct 3, 2012

    Hugs, failed3x. You can't pm because you're new, yes. Your email gets suppressed because the site owner prefers not to leave email addresses lying around for spambots to scoop up.

    How are you generally as a test taker?
     
  19. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Oct 15, 2012

    bluescholar, my apologies: I missed your query in July. (It came at an... interesting... time.) Sparknotes 101: Literature is a great resource for Subtest I; it's less directly useful for Subtest III, though following its prose patterns in your literary analysis isn't at all a bad idea. (Analysis isn't interpretation, nor is it response to literature.)

    The whole test is designed to be passed in one go, but it can make perfect sense to take two subtests at a time (in which case I think Subtests I and III go well together because they cover similar turf); one can also take the subtests one at a time, if one's deadlines allow.
     
  20. soos

    soos Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0

    Oct 29, 2012

    I'm currently entering the Praxis 2 English 0049 and Math 0069, and I don't know what materials will prepare me well. I got the middle school praxis 2 by anita and cliff notes test prep are those enough is there other materials that can help me out as I really want to pass those exams as I'm really weak especially not in school for over 6 years
    thanks
     
  21. soos

    soos Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0

    Oct 29, 2012

    I'm currently entering the Praxis 2 English 0049 and Math 0069, and I don't know what materials will prepare me well. I got the middle school praxis 2 by anita and cliff notes test prep are those enough is there other materials that can help me out as I really want to pass those exams as I'm really weak especially not in school for over 6 years
    thank
     
  22. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Oct 29, 2012

    Welcome to A to Z, soos, and welcome to this thread. Go to the first page and work your way forward: you should find a post or two to which some useful glossaries of literature and dramatic terms and the like are attached. Be sure you know the terms in them well enough that you can use them in analyzing literature or composition. If the definition is unclear to you, use the Internet: try searching for the term on Answers.com, or searching Google for lesson plans on the topic. Don't ignore threads on other Praxis II English tests or, for that matter, other states' tests: the knowledge and skills required to do decently on one of these tests don't differ radically from one state to another.

    I'm assuming that 0049 is a test of your subject-matter knowledge rather than your skill in teaching the subject matter. My advice doesn't in fact change much either way: one HAS to know and be able to use the technical terminology of literary and nonliterary analysis.

    As for the math, start by looking at the threads on math tests here. California's single subject math test is very challenging, but people who discuss it have raised good points and suggested good resources that are applicable to many tests on many levels.

    And do ask questions!
     
  23. soos

    soos Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0

    Oct 29, 2012

    My exams will be in VA , I think I found the documents of the glossary literary terms, glossary of drama terms and so on I downloaded them now thanks so much.
    I'm entering these exams as Thats the subject which I'd like to teach my priority English the Math is my back up, as I know the English is hard, but I'll keep trying it and not give up but I just wish to pass it the first trial to start my career program license
    thanks
     
  24. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Oct 29, 2012

    Where did you learn English?
     
  25. soos

    soos Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0

    Oct 29, 2012

    I actually live in VA that's where I learned English, but currently I'm abroad for a while and I'll be back for the exams
     
  26. soos

    soos Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2012
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0

    Oct 29, 2012

    The reason I mentioned the English is hard as its literature and I'm not good in it at all
     
  27. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Oct 29, 2012

    What's your goal in taking 0049?
     
  28. diablosub

    diablosub New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0

    Oct 31, 2012

    All:
    Thanks for the information! I am taking subtests II, III, IV this Saturday and have used these study guides (supplemented with my own). I have passed Subtest I with ++++, but failed III with a 207 score. I have a few specific questions regarding Subtest III:

    Both sections of the constructed response returned the comments s,d (support and depth/breadth of understanding). I quoted the original writings extensively in my responses, so I don't understand the lack of support mentioned. Also, my feeling is that the best way to show the depth of my understanding would be to use more of the literary terms (hyperbole, satire, tone, metaphor, etc.) Any suggestions are appreciated!
     
  29. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Oct 31, 2012

    Welcome to A to Z, diablosub. What's your background in English?
     
  30. diablosub

    diablosub New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0

    Nov 2, 2012

    I don't know where my response got to...there was a message that it would be reviewed before posting?

    Anyway, my power supply died in my computer which has hampered my preparations somewhat.

    I took a few college courses in English, 28 years ago. I have subbed for the last 5 years in all subjects, passed the CSET in PE and the CTEL in the last two years. I am a stickler on grammar mechanics and believe that I will do relatively well on Subtest 2. I have some theater and public speaking experience. I think that my biggest problem on Subtest 3 is that I hate to analyze literature--I just like to read good stories!
     
  31. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Nov 2, 2012

    Sounds promising, diablosub. Those technical terms - hyperbole, personification, and the terminology of grammar and composition - are in fact the tools of the trade of literary and nonliterary analysis.

    Go back to the sample questions and answers: see what, in terms of phrasing and coverage, separates the strong answers from the less strong ones.
     
  32. CSET helpwanted

    CSET helpwanted New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0

    Dec 12, 2012

    I'm one of the unlucky ones that passed the first three sections but not the fourth. I put a lot of pressure on myself to do well since taking the CSET means flying from Europe to do so. So I just got another plane ticket and registered for the January exam. Thankfully I have this testing session left before I need to pass for my program. I got four check marks for section IV and a total score of 193. I did not get any marks for areas that needed to be improved specifically. It's hard to remember exactly what I wrote so therefore hard to know what I might have missed in answering my questions. Basically all I've seen is to stay on topic, use the correct point of view, use terms related to the field and to use examples from the text as support. I think I did this. Maybe I didn't but either way I didn't do it well enough. Is there anything else big picture wise that I'm missing?
     
  33. Born2Teech

    Born2Teech New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2012
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0

    Dec 13, 2012

    Hi DramaLady -- do you think you can forward your study guide to me? It seemed most helpful to your successful completion of the SAE English 6-12 exam. I literally just received my letter of eligibility this week and I am anxious to get going on studying for this test. I want to take it within the next month and a half or so...do you think that should be enough time to study?
     
  34. ViennaG

    ViennaG New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2013
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0

    Jan 29, 2013

    CSET ENGLISH PREP HELP

    Hi All,
    I have found this forum very helpful so far, and I am happy I have came across it. I have some more questions about passing this test still. I am taking all four subtests in a month and I have to pass all of them at once in order to enter into the credential program at my school of choice this fall. I am a liberal studies major with an english concentration. I just recently converted to pursing an english credential recently due to my love of literature. I have taken some courses, those being:
    English writing composition course
    Linguistics
    American Literature
    Childrens Literature
    Women Writers
    And a poetry class that focused on Romantacism and Victorianism works.
    I am still in much need of study materials to make sure I cover all of the material on the tests. I have downloaded Elmers notes and will be going over the sample questions and responses on the CSET website. Are there any other study materials I should be aware of such as the Cliff book, Sparknotes ect. I am in need of more study material. Thank you for your help in advance.
     
  35. LALion

    LALion New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2013
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0

    Feb 3, 2013

    This thread alone completely demonstrates why I love teachers. Thank you all so much!! Will update on how the studying and test go.
     
  36. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Feb 3, 2013

    Feel free to ask questions, LALion.

    ViennaG, the coursework you've got should be very helpful for Subtests I and III (especially if the composition course delved at all into the pragmatics of writing) and for a good deal of Subtest II.
     
  37. KATeach

    KATeach New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2013
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0

    Feb 17, 2013

    Hello everyone!

    I have gone through all 46 pages (whew) and picked up some great advice. I'm taking the Praxis II 0041 on 3/14. Haven't had an English class in 11 years and haven't had a Lit. class since high school. (breathing) Yes, I'm overwhelmed and wondering if this is all too much!! I'm most challenged in the Lit. department as well as Rhetoric. I'm ready to devote 2 hours on the weekdays and 8 hours Saturday and Sunday.

    Now I just need a strategy ....suggestions?
     
  38. TeacherGroupie

    TeacherGroupie Moderator

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    29,807
    Likes Received:
    1,164

    Feb 17, 2013

    You've given yourself a month, KATeach: that's a good start. Wikipedia is your friend (and if you're nervous about it being open source, access it via Answers.com).

    I regret profoundly that Christina Myers-Schaffer's The Principles of Literature seems to have gone out of print, but if you can find it used, it might serve you very well.
     
  39. Tehescmarts

    Tehescmarts Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2013
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0

    Feb 17, 2013

    Made a study glog

    I am new so I do not think I can post the url for the English 6-12 glog. But I made one and it was helpful to me and might be to you. I have since taken the test but have no idea if I passed. I have not added anything onto the glog in regard to what I actually saw on the test. This is just information I gathered through the Internet in my attempt to study for the exam. It contains links to practice in literary analysis, quizlet flashcards, the practice pdf file.

    As one knows it is time consuming finding good links and this was a place I could consolidate my findings. If you have further helpful links I could put them on the glog.

    Perhaps you can do a search for Tehescmarts edu glogster english literature. When I do this I do not get the actual glog but at the bottom of the page of the glogs that do show up for Tehescmarts there are links to my last 5 glogs and currently the English Literature is the last one I made and so first one showing. (Run on sentence!)

    I will share the URL if I ever get permission. I hope it is helpful!
     
  40. Tehescmarts

    Tehescmarts Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2013
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0

    Feb 17, 2013

    Wow! This is a great site and also looked at the Elmer page. I wish I would have thought to look here (A to Z) a long time ago.
     

Share This Page

Members Online Now

  1. MrTempest,
  2. MrsC
Total: 437 (members: 2, guests: 416, robots: 19)
test