Frustrated because principal keeps assigning all the new students to MY class

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  1. Teacher_Lyn

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    Good Morning,

    My name's Lynn and I'm new to the forum. I'm pretty frustrated and annoyed right now because I've got 23 students, the team leader has 25 and our third team member only has 16. What confuses and upset me further is that I am the most junior member of our staff who came into the school two months late, so it's been a struggle just trying to get these kids under control.

    Constantly piling more and more kids on me, isn't helping. Just last week, I got two new students and the team leader got a new one yesterday. Our third team member gets to keep his little class of 16 w/o the disruption that having a new student so late in the school year can bring to a classroom.

    When the team leader confronted the principal about it, first he said he wasn't keeping track of how many kids are in each class (lie) then he changed up and goes, "Well I don't think <third team member> can handle another student."

    But wait, third team member gets a pay check just like the rest of us. I know life isn't fair, but geez. :dizzy:
     
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  3. BioAngel

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    That really does stink and sadly there isn't much you can do about it, just keep doing as well as you can with your students (and any possible new students). Apparently for some reason that third teacher is buddy buddy with the principal and can get away with such a small class.

    It would be nice if parents would realize what's going on and open their mouths too. I would think they would want their child in the smallest possible class.
     
  4. TeachFirst123

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    I cannot believe that!! That is just completely unfair. Our secretary is very good about keeping our class sizes fair. I guess I just always took that for granted. Is this happening throughout the school or just at your grade level? I guess you can just put up with it this year, but if it continues to happen, do you have a teacher's union or someone you can discuss this issue with?
     
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    Wow, that's crap! Did you start out with the same numbers? If so, that's totally not fair. Is there someone beyond the principal you can go to? I would, and def. contact your union.

    I can see a difference of one or two kids, but 9?? No way!
     
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    It may actually be illegal. From what I understand, at least in my state, principals are required by law to gender and racially balance classes. The idea behind this is to prevent discrimination -- otherwise principals could perpetuate a "separate but 'equal'" state within their own schools. That may not be what he's doing, but with greatly unequal class sizes he'd have to be much more careful to avoid that kind of accusation.

    His initial lie was even worse than his revision. "Not keeping track" of how many students he's assigning to each class is an admission of negligence and incompetence.
     
  7. dr.gator

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    Sad but true, this does happen in some cases. I have never experienced any success in the resolution of the problem I have empathy for ya! Other than that I don't know what to offer.
     
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    Does he have any special ed children. In the primary grades in my district one special ed student is counted as 2 students. I would love to have a class of 16.
     
  9. agdamity

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    It may be the dynamics of the third teacher's class. Last year, I had a particulary challenging student with too many issues to go into here, but adding another student to the mix would have made a bad situation much worse!!! Unfortunately, that meant my teammates got all the new students.
     
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    I know how you feel 6 days after school started I got 3 (yes THREE) new students all that day. Got one first thing in the morning, one after specials and one after lunch. That was honestly the worst day that I have had in a VERY long time. I went to the front office and had a very thorough conversation about what it does when you get THREE new students into your class in one day. I found out that the P had assigned one of them to me, the AP had assigned another one because she had been on my original list and they thought she was a no show, and the secretary assigned me the 3rd one. None had talked to the others (they are in separate offices). I think I made my point. It was several weeks before I had anyone else added and that was after I had gone about 2 weeks having lost one. I do know that now they communicate better. This week I got one, and another team mate got one, tomorrow a third teammate gets one. Only thing is that puts us at max... now the fun really begins. We are out of furniture.
     
  11. Teacher_Lyn

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    I'm not sure if it's happening in each grade level since I'm too busy most days to hang out in the break room during lunch and chat with the other teachers, but our principal in general isn't that great of a leader and most of the faculty have issues with how he runs our school. Even though a class of 23 isn't huge, it's still not right.

    I'm not sure if there are special education students in the third teacher's class or not. I know the grade level chair has four special ed students and even though they have not been identified as special needs, I've got one second grader that has to be coached just to write his name (i think he has brain damage due to Mom drinking while pregnant) and another child who becomes upset and bangs his head into the wall if reprimanded in the least way.

    So I'm dealing with a lot too. :(
     
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    same thing happens here, incompetence is often rewarded!
     
  13. shouldbeasleep

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    Agree.

    While the class sizes stay about the same, with some small variation due to EIP students, the inconsistency comes when certain teachers are never given behavior issues or parent issues (or even gender issues) because the teacher can't handle them.
     
  14. Miss J. Pre-K

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    I was just about to come here and post about this, lol. I'm about to get my fourth new student since September. I joked with my director that they're about to lose this first year teacher, and I won't be so easily replaced (I was only half joking). The newest child (#3) is about to drive me batty with crying all day long for Mama (never been in preschool). They have no idea how hard it is to start over with a new child. I don't know about this IEP stuff, I have 6 out of 18 in my room. But it might be different because I work in Headstart.

    I empathize completely. :dizzy: :sorry:
     
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    We have some issues like that in our school. The specialists actually brought it to the attention of the P. I would say something b-c they might not realize it is happening. They tried to put 30 in a class when others had 22 & 25. 1 reason they claim is because they have to leave spaces in the classes who have a spec. ed teacher in addition to the classroom teacher for new students. The problem we had was that we had a class of 25 & a class of 29. You don't need 5 spaces for new students in 1 class when we have 11 classes. :mad: (politics, politics, politics)
     
  16. Teacher_Lyn

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    ugh. that's why i left my last profession. lol
     
  17. Teacher_Lyn

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    :hugs: Thanks for the support. i empathize with YOU as well because as hard as second grade is, i'm sure that Pre=K presents it's own challenges because its the child's first school experience, so they arent really into the groove of what is and isn't appropiate. Hopefully you have a helper. So far the new child hasn't been too bad, but i keep praying that this isn't the "calm" before a storm of bad behavior.
     
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    A teacher who "can't handle it" should be fired. Perhaps not the first year, because we are all still learning no matter how long we've been teaching, but allowing such people to linger is unfair to the children as well as to the other teachers.
     
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    Our secretary is very good about being fair with placing students. I think that is ridiculous that one teacher can have 16 students and the other one 25. I think I would check with my union rep.
     
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    Amen. It's not fair to expect others to pick up the slack for those who can't or won't do their job.
     
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    Really? What state?

    I'm in Florida and I currently have 12 boys and 4 girls!

    I'm also the lowest number class, so I get the new kids too.

    My basic pattern all year has been lose a girl or two, gain a boy, lose a girl, gain a boy.

    Kelly :)
     
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    Wow! That isn't fair! Does the third team member have a more heavy case load with special ed or etc.? That's the only reason I can think of that that might happen. Other than that, as hard as it is, take it as a compliment!Your P has lots of faith in your teaching.
     
  23. Teacher_Lyn

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    thanks everyone for all the support. i mean it's not the end of the world or anything i just hate being treated differently but getting paid the same thing as the other teacher. whoever it was that said that part about teachers who cant handle it should be fired has a great point. the leade teacher at my school said the same thing
     

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