Fired for giving a kid a zero!

Discussion in 'General Education' started by blazer, Sep 26, 2018.

  1. futuremathsprof

    futuremathsprof Aficionado

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,762
    Likes Received:
    1,012

    Sep 27, 2018

    That’s why you turn it in. Shocker! And then you don’t get zeros. Wow, imagine that. (To the students, not you, of course.)
     
  2. futuremathsprof

    futuremathsprof Aficionado

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,762
    Likes Received:
    1,012

    Sep 27, 2018

    Full disclosure: The school lied about its own policy. It is bolded in red in their handbook that zeros are not permitted and they then told the press that they don’t do that.
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2018
  3. blazer

    blazer Connoisseur

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    1,603
    Likes Received:
    305

    Sep 27, 2018

    Surely I should get at least 50%?:D
     
  4. TrademarkTer

    TrademarkTer Groupie

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2017
    Messages:
    1,485
    Likes Received:
    1,019

    Sep 27, 2018

    I also think the people who argue for not giving zeros really ought to start arguing instead for not using the 100 point grading scale. Especially if an entire school building is not allowing zeros, that school district really ought to consider switching over to a 4.0 scale instead! I think this would be less likely to be dismissed by others as it allows giving 0s without them being as devastating to the grade.
     
  5. Lisabobisa

    Lisabobisa Companion

    Joined:
    May 6, 2011
    Messages:
    226
    Likes Received:
    51

    Sep 27, 2018

    It's a school policy NOT a district policy. And in the same handbook it shows an "I" as incomplete which equals a 0.

    From ABC Action News:
    "When asked specifically about the wording of "no zeros" on the West Gate student and parent handbook, Padrick said:

    "Some classroom teachers and school faculties have discussed the range of points for work submitted in each grading category.

    This scale outlines a 10-point range for each letter grade:
    A = 90 to 100
    B = 80 to 89
    C = 70-79
    D = 60-69
    F = 50-59

    A zero is noted on the scale for work not attempted or work that is incomplete.""
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2018
  6. futuremathsprof

    futuremathsprof Aficionado

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,762
    Likes Received:
    1,012

    Sep 27, 2018

    Either way, the district implied the school does give zeros and the school clearly does not.
     
  7. MissCeliaB

    MissCeliaB Aficionado

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Messages:
    3,222
    Likes Received:
    428

    Sep 27, 2018

    I worked at a school once that let us enter grades as zero or the actual score, but anything lower than 20% was calculated as 20% in the average. I didn't mind that. It did keep students from becoming hopeless, but still a 20% is not near a passing grade, so it wasn't giving them an advantage over those who tried, but couldn't do it. It also didn't discourage kids from trying and doing all of their work.
     
  8. mathmagic

    mathmagic Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    2,411
    Likes Received:
    1,160

    Sep 27, 2018

    50% of 0 is u. or C.
    (Which then, does that mean that you get a C if you get 50% of a 0?)
    *walks away slowly*
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2018
  9. otterpop

    otterpop Aficionado

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2013
    Messages:
    3,741
    Likes Received:
    1,337

    Sep 27, 2018

    This seems to be getting to "fancy math" territory.
     
    Backroads likes this.
  10. futuremathsprof

    futuremathsprof Aficionado

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,762
    Likes Received:
    1,012

    Sep 27, 2018

    Very funny. Har har, lol!
     
  11. TamiJ

    TamiJ Virtuoso

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2007
    Messages:
    6,776
    Likes Received:
    151

    Sep 27, 2018

    Well, Rick Wormeli has something to say on this matter:
     
  12. TrademarkTer

    TrademarkTer Groupie

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2017
    Messages:
    1,485
    Likes Received:
    1,019

    Sep 28, 2018

    Ugh...he's the worst. We had to sit through an 8 hour presentation from this guy last year. It was quite bad.
     
    otterpop and futuremathsprof like this.
  13. TeacherNY

    TeacherNY Phenom

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2008
    Messages:
    4,226
    Likes Received:
    883

    Sep 28, 2018

    Hey, if the district wants to spend some $$ why not implement Saturday school where the kids can sit there all day and do all the work they refused to do in the first place so they don't earn a 0. Yes, they EARN 0s by not doing the work. The teacher doesn't GIVE them a 0.
    Anyone want to work on Saturdays with these angels?
     
    futuremathsprof likes this.
  14. futuremathsprof

    futuremathsprof Aficionado

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,762
    Likes Received:
    1,012

    Sep 28, 2018

    You are a breath of fresh air, do you know that?
     
  15. 2ndTimeAround

    2ndTimeAround Phenom

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2010
    Messages:
    4,322
    Likes Received:
    551

    Sep 28, 2018

    I would have to revamp my entire grading if my school adopted a policy like this. It wouldn't be too difficult to do, just time consuming. I'd make every assignment have a 50 point base. You write your name at the top - 50%. But the actual assessment would look radically different. There wouldn't be any more "easy" points available since they were just given 50 for their names. I wouldn't allow the policy to make my LETTER grades inflated.

    I would expect to have more failing students, though. Because the kids would know they didn't have to do their classwork or practice so they wouldn't be as skilled when it came test time.
     

Share This Page

Members Online Now

  1. flairpen,
  2. vickilyn
Total: 338 (members: 3, guests: 303, robots: 32)
test