Female teachers (or anyone) -- how would you have reacted?

Discussion in 'Teacher Time Out' started by ms.irene, Jan 9, 2015.

  1. Sam Aye M

    Sam Aye M Mr. Know-It-All

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    That was the first thing that popped in my head as I read the scenario. I would never refer to any of the adults as "girls," regardless of age. If someone referred to me as "boy" in a similar situation, my smart-aleck self would probably respond with something like, "Boys? I don't see any boys over here."
     
  2. blazer

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    As a 57 year old male I have no problem being described as a boy by a colleague or friend. In fact when I had my convertible a few years back it was constantly referred to as a 'boy's toy' (I preferred the term Batmobile as it was black and sleek, think 1960s Batman not 2000s).

    I think the problem lies more in the mindset of the OP than the attitude of her colleagues (why do you call them co-workers)?
     
  3. MikeTeachesMath

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    OP, regardless of others' opinions, your feelings are valid and you have every right to feel uncomfortable if a situation makes you feel that way :). It is your right to be comfortable in your work environment.
     
  4. DizneeTeachR

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    I would rather be called girl or gal than lumped like a lot of people do with "you guys"! I would always say guys & gals....
     
  5. callmebob

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    So I'm going to guess that when talking to your class you never say "hey guys" in reference to something. I use guys for both males and when referring to a specific group of people. Just because of the way the terms sounds. Gals, just sounds wierd as a word itself to me. Women as a word, I think older. If I said to a friend "hey check out that girl over there", she could be in here 30s as long as she has a youthful look about her. So girl to me, would more of a compliment than woman.
     
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    As a young-male teacher, I get comments like that all the time from the older teachers. It's annoying, and it just makes things awkward. But I've experienced worse. I actually respond just like you do "I know right," but I don't really let it get to me too much. I know I'm speaking from a different perspective than what you are experiencing (the person on the other side).

    Life is all about awkwardness and dealing with people. His comment was insensitive to both you and the man. But whatever. If it's just a fleeting one time thing, ignore it and move on with life.
     
  7. daisycakes

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    I just try to ignore comments like that completely so the person does not make them anymore. Some people are so rude!
     
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    It's been really interesting seeing everyone's perspectives, especially from the male teachers. Peregrin, it's interesting to hear that you get similar comments -- I wonder if this is more of a generational issue/difference rather than a gender thing?
     
  9. TeacherGroupie

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    "Guys" as gender-unspecified plural seems to be a West Coast thing, bob.

    I for one stopped using "girls" to refer to female people over the age of consent before I left high school.
     
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    Interesting idea on the guys word.

    I guess I don't see the issue with the word girls. But again its because I use guys and girls. Like if I were to say to a friend "thats a hot girl" I'm not talking about a kid that is for sure. We sure don't say to each other "that woman is hot". Gotta keep them a little youthful.
     
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    I understand what you are saying & a lot of people use it as group reference here as well. To me guys is for males & gals (even though it sounds weird) is more for the females...so to answer your question no I don't lump all under one heading....

    All this talk reminds me of how young women get offended when called ma'am....
     
  12. MikeTeachesMath

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    Men calling women "girls" has underlying roots in sexism. For example, think of the last time someone you know on Facebook posted a picture of their baby boy. What did the comments say? They probably called him a "little man," or a "heartbreaker". It's socially acceptable to call them "men" even if they're an infant. But the opposite is true for women: people try to call them a "girl" for the longest possible time. It's not obvious at first, but it infantilizes women.

    You would not call an adult male a "boy," so why is it okay to call an adult woman a "girl"?
     
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    Girl doesn't bother me as long as there doesn't seem to be malicious intent behind it. I say girl all the time-"it's just us girls tonight for dinner" for example. I also say you guys pretty regularly in class.

    As far as little boys on Facebook, I only have one friend with a boy but she calls him her boy. Her recent status was about her and her little boy going out to walk the pigs to get ready for a show next weekend. He's four. I know people do say little man for young boys though, but I've also heard people say things like "my what a nice young lady you're turning into" in reference to elementary aged girls.

    To me it's all about content and tone. There are certainly people who can make the words ladies or women seem wrong-little lady for example.
     
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    Mike never thought of it that way (don't have facebook...LOL)! But as someone pointed out that gal sounds weird so does woman. I think you see/ hear people say little lady...
     
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    Agreed... I call my neighbor I've known since she was Baby & I still say How are you doing Girly? Not because I'm mean..it's really, to me, like saying sister.
     

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