Ever wonder if you didn't get the job because...

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  1. hopscotch

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    ...your last name is too hard to pronounce? (guilty)
    ...you look too young? (guilty here, and not in the good way. I had a 5h grader come up to me at my cousin's birthday party and ask what grade I was in once...:unsure:)
    ...you look too harsh/professional?
    ...you are an apple person and the P is a PC guy? (yep, had that one come up)

    I sometimes wonder if it's the silly little things like that that make or break someone's decision to hire us.
    Just a thought. List your own "ridiculous yet unstated reasons we didn't hire you" statements here!
     
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    *Way too awesome for them. Might outshine everyone...including the P.
    *Went to the wrong college
    *Way too good looking...LOL.
    *Brought a mini-portfolio...the P handed it back to me at the end of the interview "to have to give to other schools"...Ummm gee thanks, so I didn't get the job is what you are telling me?
    *Don't have a masters
    *Have too much experience
     
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    ....smile too much (I totally do this when I'm nervous)
    ... too petite (I swear that's why I didn't get the high school jobs. They think I couldn't handle those seniors!!!)
    ...too nice/polite during interview
    ...don't have enough experience (I thought student teaching counted, but sometimes it doesn't for these people!?!?!!)
     
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    *was too fluffy
    *didn't graduate from this district (only lived here 18yrs.)
    *don't dress trendy enough
    *switched jobs too much (being riffed stinks)
    *the parents, staff and students would like you more then the principal
     
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    ...distance (the P thought that the commute was too much)
    ...not the right experience (preschool does not count if you want to teach in an elementary school)
    ...not from around here (I'm the new girl on the block) everyone seems to have grown up here and lived here forever
     
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    *being as educated as the principal
    *not being pretty enough
    *being too nervous
    *wearing a bigger wedding ring (I swear this happened to me)
     
  8. BSUTeacher

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    gillianvt all of your reasons fit my life right now as well!
     
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    not being blond enough
    not be "flirty"
    being too old
    being too good
    not being at the right place at the right time
     
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    hop-I kid you not. I just looked on a school's website that I thought I would at least get an interview for back in April. I couldn't even pronounce the name, so how do they expect the students to? I, on the other hand, have the last name Anderson. How hard is that to say?

    *they know I would go above and beyond
    *didn't wear the right brand name clothes
    *either too much/not enough experience
     
  11. hopscotch

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    Oh!
    *wasn't "refined" enough (ie - rich).

    The montessori school I interviewed at was brimming with affluent SNOBS. Kids, staff, everyone. Sorry, not my socioeconomic cup of tea. I like me some diversity!
     
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    +Being too nice
    +Having a sweet voice so nobody thinks I can control kids
    +being too fluffy
     
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    I might get attacked for this one...

    -being a guy

    but seriously... every time I've been asked what grade would be my ideal grade to teach and I say 2nd grade followed closely by 1st grade I get many raised eyebrows... =(
    Is it so surprising that a guy likes to work with young kids?

    I know a couple male teachers, some friends, some I met at the schools I sub at. Pretty much all of them are 4th grade and up except like 2. One teacher actually told me to try and be as normal as possible on interviews (not that I'm not normal...) because he said an administrator told him she was glad he was normal after an interview and that they get many "strange" male applicants. Bizarre...
     
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    ~having a first & last name that no one can pronounce
    ~being the wrong "type" (oh, I thought by your name you were black/hispanic)
    ~too much experience in another state and none in this one
    ~principal was threatened by my proficiency, professionalism & how much I outshone her (oops, that was why I got a bad eval, my bad!)
    ~dressed too formally
    ~aphasia kicked in due to stress and sounded like an idiot
     
  15. Passion4Teachin

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    I was not hired because I was...
    - a girl.
    - too young.
    - a distraction to young boys.
    - too educated
    - too progressive.
    - not aggressive enough. (didn't try to sell myself)
    - not persistent.

    ... the list goes on
     
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    I truly hope that isn't the case. There are just too many kids out there who need to see an adult male who is educated and nurturing. Heaven knows, I would have done well with a male teacher before seventh grade.:2cents:
     
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    because a displaced teacher got the job!
     
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    I've wondered about the looking too young thing before. I am 29 but look about 24...so I think of all these ways to look "older" for interviews, like wearing my hair up, more or less makeup, etc...kind of silly maybe.
     
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    I have one and don't have a teaching job...I actually NEED a teaching job to pay off all of my student loans. :(
     
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    ~41 and "still single" with no children. apparently giving birth automatically makes you a better teacher?
    ~sense of humor didn't jive with interviewer
    ~dressed nicer than the P
    ~coffee lover, they hate it
    ~cat lover, P-dog love,r cat hater

    *This is a great post btw. Just goes to show these admins are humans too, and sometimes can judge us on things having nothing to do with our qualifications!
     
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    hand bled in interview
     
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    + have a last name that's not the "norm" in the state - most have never heard of it so it's weird to them
    + more educated than the P (have 2 BA's, Masters and JD)
    + dress professionally
    + seem to "nice" and can't handle students
    + not bubbly
    + not aggressive (I don't sell myself)
    + not blond (lol - that's for those schools where everyone seemed to be blond who worked there from the P to the secretary to the custodian and all in between)
     
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    *Was too middle class
    *Didn't belong to the country club
    *Was a Mexican girl that couldn't speak Spanish
     
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    +The principal's husband thought you were cute.
    +You're Asian
    +The principal who's husband thought you were cute gave you a great recomendation on paper, but told the other principals that you were a gossip.
    +You didn't get a regular ed job because the superintendent of special ed put a sticky note on your file saying "don't hire--needed elsewhere", so you were not offered a contract but asked to do a LTS for 2 years!
     
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    - Not enough experience
    - Not from the area
    - Young and married, so I must plan to pop out kids soon (far from the truth, really)
    - My first name is different
     
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    This is so funny! I was just thinking this. I have visited many schools and was recently looking at the websites in my district. I swear the majority of the teachers are blond. One school was all blond even the custodians. I really wonder if blonds do get hired more often than brunettes. :unsure:
     
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    I look too young.
    A parent of a child in the classroom, who works at the school, doen't like me.
    I'm short.
    I'm not fashionable.
     
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    I think I am all of the above
     
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    What this really shows is how dumb this hiring process is.Can they really tell from an interview or even a single demonstration lesson,how good a teacher you would really be?The administrators only guess at who they want and many times there is no real reason for their final choice.
     
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    I'm hoping all of this is tongue in cheek- seriously, where are you people interviewing?

    You must must must put your best foot forward in an interview, sell yourself, be well spoken- if you are not doing that you are diminishing your chances of getting the job. While an interview and demo do not GUARANTEE that a person will be a great teacher, they do give some insight as to a teacher's possible potential. My hiring committee has seen candidates that look good on paper but can't interview well, some who interview well but bomb demos- and it's totally possible that some of those people are very good teachers.

    I really don't think there's any magic button to this- name, hair color...those don't matter and in my district are NOT reasons for hiring or not hiring. Do remember though that you only have one chance to make a first impression.

    All that said- I swear I didn't get a job once because my interviewer had ink smeared on his upper lip (like an ink mustache) and I didn't point it out to him- someone in the office must have pointed it out to him while I was filling out some paperwork and then he asked me if I had noticed the ink on his face...EEEK! (this was for a part time summer job in college- not teaching but how funny!!)
     
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    Maybe I should go back to blonde.

    Offers being blonde: 2
    Offers being natural brunette: 0
     
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    Where are the schools that hire blondes? I am blonde and have had no offers...LOL.
     
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    Because people thought I was a minority because of my last name and then found out I wasn't. Que sorpresa!


    Because I might be having children in then next few years. And don't think that one is not true. I know a principal who routinely asked interviewees (women) if they were planning on having children in the near future. yes, it is illegal and yes he was chosen as one of the principals of the year for that state.
     
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    It's funny. My husband actually turned to me at one point and, with a worried look on his face, asked if I wasn't getting work because I was "too cute". I thought he was joking and being sweet!
     
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    *sigh* Just because we're in our mid-twenties and married doesn't mean that we're itching to make like bunnies and multiply.


    Discrimination, of all kinds, is alive and well, sadly. We can say and do all the right things, but you never know what factor will tip the scales. Hair color, age, race, religion, etc.
    It's like saying that the Birth of Venus in an ugly frame is a terrible painting just because the frame is ugly.
    WE ARE STILL BOTTICELLIS!
     
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    There is a principal in my district who is known to hire young Italian females.My principal who is Hispani,hired five new teachers this year four were Hispanic.Maybe they were the best candidates.The super of my building has a daughter who just graduated college to become a language arts teacher. The girl is gorgous,a real knockout.She was interviewied by three female principals and did not get the jobs at their schools.Yesterday she had an interview with a male principal and an assistant principal who she believed was in his thirties.She said the Ap could not take his eyes off her during the whole interview. They said they would let her know on Monday. What do you think her chances are of getting the job?I sure if she does,it is because she was the best candidate.
     
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    i was told today during an interview that I am "too serious" and even though he likes serious, he believes other interviewers want to see someone who is fun and outgoing and not as serious. sorry I take my job and my passion seriously... wouldnt you rather want someone like that than someone who is ditzy?
     
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    I have some gray hair and I made sure that I colored my hair before interviewing this summer. I'm 43.
     
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    Well I wasn't tongue in cheek when I said my name was difficult to pronounce and if it was pronounced, then they thought I was a different ethnicity. Sorry, middle-aged white woman is what you get!
     
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    In one interview, the principal thought it was a negative sign that I didn't mention decorating the bulletin boards with student work. Forgive me if for 12th grade AP Physics I didn't have this as my first priority...
     
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    (...) school districts shall not discriminate in their educational programs, activities or employment practices based on race, color, national origin, sex, disability, age, religion, ancestry or any other legally protected classification.

    I have my doubts...
     

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