Does this mean I won't be coming back?

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  1. Sarge

    Sarge Enthusiast

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    Sorry for the disjointedness of the post. I normally write better, but my feet are sore from literally pacing around my house for the last two days.

    Just offered a job teaching middle school English at a school with stats twice as good as where I'm at now.

    That's my backup.

    A district where I applied for a VP position has been checking references. I have two more interviews next week.

    One issue is that I signed my letter of intent to return. They have a month to replace me. In all honesty, finding someone more effective at teaching second grade than me should not be that hard.

    I was told that the sup. of HR has to let me go. It would be pretty crappy of them to make me stay, considering that I applied to teach middle school ELL at my own site and they said no. They also didn't hire me for an AP position in my district. Nor did they choose me as an ELD specialist. All jobs for which I am fully credentialed.

    Think I'll have any problems?
     
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    I would think it would be in their best interest to hire someone new rather than keep someone who doesn't want to be there. In a previous district you had to forfeit your last paycheck if you left within a month of school starting. Many teachers thought it was worth it and took the penalty. They didn't have any problems filling the positions even though this was a well known "rough" district. I would think a 2nd grade position would be easy to fill.
     
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  4. Sarge

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    We don't get paid in July.
     
  5. catnfiddle

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    You're giving them a full month. They'll manage. I'm thrilled your backup sounds promising, but I'd LOVE to see another AtoZ person make the move into admin.
     
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    Very rarely do they hold people to their contract. I don't think you should worry!
     
  7. czacza

    czacza Multitudinous

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    What does your contract say? My admin has held the last few who left to the '60 days notice' as per our contract.
     
  8. YoungTeacherGuy

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    I doubt they'll hold you to your contract--especially since they didn't hire you for those other three positions within your own district.
     
  9. mkbren88

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    I'm sure they will release you.
     
  10. teacherquestions

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    Im sure youll get released--and congrats on the interviews! Either way, there are very few teachers that have actually gotten in trouble from leaving without being released. I called my union rep about this same thing, and they said that not letting you go is essentially slavery, contract or not :rolleyes:
     
  11. czacza

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    Your union rep is wrong. It's not slavery...and to call it so is ignorant and disrespectful. It's a contract. The OP's district may very well let him go, but it's always best to know your contract just in case.
     
  12. teacherquestions

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    I did also call the ed. department of my state, and they said that even if I broke the contract, the school couldn't do anything about it because they didnt take those claims seriously. They've (the state) has never taken away a teacher's credentials for breaking contract
     
  13. czacza

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    In NJ, they can hold a contacted employees for the negotiated number of days' notice. It depends on the administrator, truthfully. The OP is in Cali and things could be different. I've never ever heard of someone in NJ losing their license for breaking contract.
     
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    Good point!
     
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    I would think since it is a month's notice, they will let you go. Congrats on the new position and I hope the admin position is offered to you. Best wishes on all your new endeavors.
     
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    In other words, now that you have A JOB, even if it isn't THE JOB, get out now.
     
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    Exactly! If he gives them plenty of notice by letting them know NOW, he can (hopefully) bow out on good terms. The longer he waits, the more likely he is to leave them with a bad taste in their mouth. I'm all about not burning bridges!
     
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    Congratulations on the new job...now run away as fast as you can from the school that doesn't appreciate you!
     
  19. Sarge

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    The offer came in late Friday night, so I'm going to tell them first thing in the morning. I just don't want to stall the guy who offered me the teaching position. He seems eager to hire me.
     
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    Congrats, Sarge!
     
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    Any time frame for the AP position?
     
  22. LouiseB

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    Are you taking the English or AP position?
     
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    Congrats on your interviews/offers! It would be really cool if you got offered the AP job! :) Good luck!
     
  24. Sarge

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    No. I just don't know how long I can stall the people offering the middle school English job. I asked him for the weekend and said I needed to check with my HR to see if I could get out of my own contract. I'd be perfectly happy with either the teaching or the admin job. But given that I've just expended a huge amount of effort, time, and money for the admin certification, I'd take that one first.
     
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    I would hate to see you drop out of running for that admin position---sometimes schools take forever to draw up contracts though so you might have more time with the teaching job? If it were me, I would stall as long as possible..
     
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    It's just that they were so nice.
     
  27. Sarge

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    I wish there was a way I could take both jobs.
     
  28. TeacherGroupie

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    Sarge, that's a really good dilemma to have (and a much-deserved one, in my view).
     
  29. LouiseB

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    Since you know they were calling your references, could you call the people for the AP tomorrow and find out what is going on about that? Then you can make your decision. Either way you are done with your school.

    Several years ago, I was hired elsewhere in early June but I had already signed my contract. As it turned out, I had to remain at the school that I was under contract. They wouldn't release me. This year at my school, a teacher was hired in May at another school. My school was reluctant to release her but at the June school board meeting, they did so.

    I hope that you are released from your "old" position. Mine was for sped, yours is elementary education and there are always el ed teachers out there!
     
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