Does getting a secondary credential in a subject help? I give up!!!

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  1. teacher2binbh

    teacher2binbh Rookie

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    Hello,

    I have been looking for a job for 3 years now and I am getting nothing. I have a Mult Subt Teaching Credential and wondering if getting a secondary credential in English will make things easier? What am I doing wrong? I feel the smug condenscending attitude toward me whenever I do a rare interview and wonder if it is something about me???:help:
     
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  3. Cerek

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    Getting extra credentials will certainly improve your chances and your marketability to schools. The more you can bring to the table, the better.

    Since you're credentialed(?) in multiple subjects, I assume you would be teaching elementary grades?
     
  4. TeacherGroupie

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    California's a difficult market in which to get hired, it's true. You have my sympathy there. Whether adding the credential in English will help is hard to say.

    As to the "smug condescending attitude" toward you that you say you're noticing, stop looking for evidence of it.
     
  5. Galois

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    Hi, and welcome to this forum.

    TeacherGroupie is right. I would say that attitude is everything in the interview process. Ones personality will always show and shine. Sometimes even with a lesser credential, a panel may choose a candidate just because of the "intangible/s" that she or he possess - the genuine positive attitude that a teacher should always have. Of course, all things being equal the more credential the better, but again it is no guarantee in getting hired in the job market we are in.

    Some people would enroll in a Dale Carnegie course to improve their personality. I have not gone to one, so I'm not recommending it. But, I hope you are following the gist of what I'm driving at.
     
  6. chasisaac

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    My Story: Look for 6 months with social studies.

    In a three month period test and pass:
    MS Science
    MS Math
    Language Arts 5-12
    Physical Science
    (In my state I also get title I and a few other fun things with the above)

    Hired within one month. One interview one job.

    As soon as we had come to a handshake hiring. I had four more interviews. I went on all of them. Not hired. Have to sign contract next week.
     
  7. Aliceacc

    Aliceacc Multitudinous

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    With all the applicants they get in English, there would be no need to call in anyone they weren't actively considering for the job.

    That "smug condescending attitude" may be in your mind. If they didn't think you were qualified, they wouldn't have called you in.
     
  8. yellowdaisies

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    I don't think it would hurt, but English jobs in CA aren't incredibly easy to snag, either. Probably a bit easier than elementary, but still...

    Are you applying to charters as well? Three of us from my credential program cohort have gotten jobs at charters. I've already started working at mine (year round) and I love it.

    Can you move? Or survive for awhile on an hour-ish commute? If you're in an extremely over saturated area like so cal, that could help.

    Good luck to you! It IS possible to get a job in CA, it's just VERY difficult!
     
  9. chasisaac

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    Let me give a few suggestions and thoughts.

    CA - as I can tell through news is going to be a bear of time getting a job in ANYTHING.

    Have you thought of moving out of the state? I left over 15 years ago, and perhaps one of the better choices I have made. I do miss the ocean. I laugh at people when they talk about bad traffic.

    Real problems of leaving: testing, cost of living (I miss eating out all the time), actually getting a job out of the area (get a google voice number in the area you want to go) and family.

    of LA. Language Arts seems IMHO one of the things that is very often looked for . . . I mean a lot at least locally. I think we had more LA positions in South Dakota open than science, math, and maybe sped.

    of Testing: You will find that testing is 'easier' in other parts of the country. The biggie is fewer tests.
     
  10. tinat70

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    don't feel discouraged no matter what. I totally understand your situation and I am getting my secondary (just passed the English cset) and applying soon....
    I also have MA in Cross-Cultural teaching and...plus sup.. in Music. I feel like a Black sheep...:
     
  11. teresaglass

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    Science, math, and special ed. are your best bets for adding credentials. You could go into severe sped.
     
  12. tonysam

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    None of those are really "high needs" areas anymore. I doubt California is much different that Oregon in that regard. Here a "high needs" special education job can garner upward of fifty applicants. THAT is NOT "high needs."

    In other words, any job that has more applicants than there are openings isn't a "high needs" area.

    The question that should be asked is why anybody wants to spend or go into further debt for several more thousands of dollars to add a credential in the off-chance there might be a job at the end of it. In Oregon, it costs between 8-10 THOUSAND dollars to add an endorsement, and that's through public colleges. Of course, you have to have graduate-level courses, which in Oregon are over 1k a course.

    Really ask yourself if it is worth it if you don't have a teaching job now. Adding credentials makes sense if you are already employed as a teacher.
     

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