Does anyone know of a state that accepts Florida certification without taking that

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    I first want to start of saying that I realize that each states rules are different and I am just asking the following question to test the waters.
    Does anyone know of a state that has reciprocity with Florida if I have a clear, renewable, professional teaching certificate from Florida through an alternate route program and it does not require that I TAKE THEIR STATE TESTS? I would not have taught under the certification as of yet, in Florida.
    I am just curious to see what my options are.:confused:
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    I transferred my license from New Mexico to California and my tests were accepted. Information is on the ca credential website to check if your scores are accepted.
    Even though that is the case, I finally decided to just go take the California basic skills test CBEST anyway because every application asks for it and you have to explain to everyone how yours is accepted from out of state and wonder if they believe you. It's not that hard though.

    Don't try orange county though, it's very hard to get in... maybe if you sub first.
     
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    I appreciate the feedback, but I am wondering about Florida to other states.
     
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    bros,
    It is true that not all states accept the alternative cert, but a lot are starting to offer their own alternative cert programs. If you notice from the chart a lot (almost all) accept Florida when it comes to reciprocity. I am trying to find out which ones will accept the alternative route ,EPI (these programs are growing state to state) programs and not require the applicant to take the state test and just do a direct transfer. I know Georgia will accept you without taking their tests if you have three years previous experience under the certification. I heard Michigan will accept you without taking their tests, but I also heard jobs are hard to come by there.
     
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    You kinda need to give us an idea of which states you are considering. I don't mean to sound harsh but this is information you can look up yourself on state websites. There are 50 states and like you said each has their own rules. There are teachers from Florida on here but I don't know if any have left the state and gotten certs in others.

    I'll piggyback what bros as said in that with alt. route certs you'll probably have a harder time with reciprocity. As there are different rules with that type of certification. Here in NY you would need 3 years of teaching. Also on every "pathway" to certification at some point you need to take our state tests. It might not be right away but eventually you will have to.

    Good luck.
     
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    Louisiana requires you to take the Praxis if you have not. Also, not all if my certifications transferred from Florida.
     
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    I just wanted to add in NYS with reciprocity they also want fingerprint clearance, which you'd have to pay for, I doubt being fingerprinted by Florida carries over as I've been fingerprinted through the city and state and when I was considering working for a educational company in NJ they said it didn't matter I needed to be fingerprinted by NJ.

    Also in addition to completing or state tests, you have to do our workshops on child abuse, school violence and dasa.

    I don't know if other states are as strict but I wouldn't come hear with a FL cert hoping to have the process move quickly.
     
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    Miss Celia an everyone else who has responded,
    I realize every state does not accept the alt route and I also realize at some point I will have to take workshops. I am trying to find out from teachers that have gone taken the same route in Florida and that have moved to other states to teach. In my opinion, I believe more and more states will accept the alt route as it is getting harder to find teachers that have gone the traditional route or ones that have left teaching due to the changes in the classroom. MissCelia, with all due respect, I heard that for many years Louisiana has had a hard time finding teachers due to the hurricane season, the salary( which is the lowest for first year teachers compared to the rest of the US) and how the state has not fully recovered from the major hurricane. Please understand I am not saying the state should accept any old person that comes along, but if an applicant has the desire and the certification from (Florida requires all most the same standards as other states, my opinion) another state , well they should accept the certification and not be so demanding.
    As far as NY , I realize with NY you need to meet a higher standard.
     
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    I had to write a check to get my NC license using my MI one. However, MI has really high standards, so I'm not sure about other states transferring to NC.
     
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    I don't have any advice. Just want to say good luck!
     
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    There was a teacher on this blog that claimed that MI would accept his alt cert from Florida:confused: and not have to take MI tests (he believed)
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    A teacher I worked with in NC married a guy from MI, and they moved here. She had to fly up twice to take certification tests. She had to take an additional class, too, despite having her bachelors and masters.
    Every state's reciprocity is different, but I think that teacher will find his path a little more difficult that just getting his license transferred!
     
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    It might be more productive for you to just go ahead and take a few tests in a new state rather than spend a whole lot of time looking for loopholes.
     
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    I know a guy who transferred to NC from MD and his license went through without a hitch--other than the enormously long time it takes Raleigh to operate...

    He carried Theatre and PE and his college credits earned him Social Studies certification.

    Maybe I missed, but OP, which states are you considering??? NC is relatively easy from what I have heard.
     
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    Some states allow you to transfer after three years of teaching.

    One of those is CA. States vary so much on what they take and do not take.
     
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    Reciprocity really doesn't exist. Almost all states are going to find one way or the other to gouge you. The only certification all states will honor without question is if you have national board certification, which costs an arm and a leg to get.

    Oregon is arguably the worst state to get certified if you are out of state. It is openly hostile to teachers from other states. Unless you have FIVE YEARS TEACHING IN ONE SUBJECT AREA, you MUST take their idiot content exams to be equal to an Oregon teaching undergraduate. In only a handful of states does Oregon recognize exams from other states to be equivalent. It doesn't matter if you are nearly sixty years of age and haven't taken undergraduate courses in over 20 years. To get cert in elementary ed or even be able to teach Title I or reading (which yours truly has experience in but doesn't have five years of teaching experience in the subject area), you have to take the idiot multiple subject tests unique to Oregon. You have to literally go back and study every single discipline you took in college in order to take this test. It doesn't matter if you have a master's in elementary education. The assumption by TSPC is you are in your twenties, so college is still fresh in your mind.

    Supposedly TSPC plans to streamline the licensing process to have only two levels for each endorsement, but I am highly wary of whether they will ditch the "five years in one subject area" in favor of simply five years teaching experience to bypass the tests. The agency hints at such a change in the license structure for out-of-state teachers, but I'll believe it when I see it if the five years/subject area rule to avoid testing is dumped.
     
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    I appreciate the info on CA, but with the cost of living there I doubt I would be interested in moving there. I am trying to find out from teachers in Florida that have five year certification ( through an EPI program alternative cert , just as god as other program) what states they have applied to that offers a direct transfer without having to take the states teacher's exams or if they have 3 years teaching experience and the state allowed a direct transfer without taking a state exam. I am just curious, I want to leave my options open.
     
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    So are you willing to move anywhere, as long as you think you can stand a chance of getting a job relatively easily?
     
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    Bros,
    no, I am not looking to move anywhere and as far as getting a job easily, well that is not guaranteed. I just want to see what my options are compared to Florida
     
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    I've worked in many states, Texas, Missouri, Delaware, Connecticut, and now Georgia. The only state I did not have to take anything for was Delaware. From each state to state they had different expectations for certification. When I moved to Connecticut, I even had to take a child development class to receive my certification even though I had taught in other states for almost 10 years! It is what it is. Each state has different standards and expectation for their teachers. And it doesn't help that it is a little bit of a money maker too!
     
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    Were you from Florida? I did happen to speak with Georgia DOE and they said if I have 3 years under my fla cert I will not be required to take the exams. I realize there are always some sort of shop you will have to take. I am trying to find out what states will not require that I take their social science 6-12 SAE or ESE SAE or Ped exam. I would sooner wait to have 3 years of experience under my FLA cert before having to take these exams in another state.
     
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    No I am not from Florida but I did teach in CT before moving to GA and they are still requiring me to take their state test.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback, but I was trying to hear from someone in Florida. As far as Georgia goes things may have changed since you moved there or the requirements for CT to GA is different than for FLA to GA.
     
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    Is there a reason you're so against having to take these exams?
     
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    I always find it interesting how people pick only certain things that op post on a blog. If you must know it is not all about having to take the exams. Your experience or age may be different than mine. As I said earlier , I am trying to find out what someone had experienced overall ( From Florida) when it came to moving to another state. I have already figured one way to get a direct transfer was having at least 3 years experience. As someone previously stated" I had 10 years of teaching experience teaching in a field," but had to still take the workshop. I just cant see having to take numerous tests (expense and time) when a job may never happen and the level of the test that I took in Florida is about the same. That is :2cents: and please understand it is more to it than just a test. It may seem different to you.
     
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    OP, I was wondering the same thing as Caesar. To be honest, I'd be surprised if most people weren't wondering why!

    What states would you consider moving to? I think your current question is a little bit broad, while at the same time being too specific.
     
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    Teach,
    Why should it make the difference where I want to move? I am trying to find out from a teacher who taught in FLORIDA:whistle: ( only mentioned numerous times) what his /her background is when it comes to teaching and what that person experienced upon looking to relocate. When I asked this question at the beginning( iam almost sure) I asked for people from Florida. When someone wants a general idea (can also mean broad) that means the person is testing the waters.:confused:
     
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    It just seems like you are going about it backwards. If you know where you're planning to move, you can look at that state's requirements and determine whether what you've done as part of Florida's requirements will suffice.
     
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    Caesar,
    Not to be rude, but as I mentioned to the last poster I never said where I wanted to go. I am trying to get a general census from a teacher from Florida that went through the move? If I get any answers (hopefully more than one) I can map things out and make a choice.:dizzy:
     
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    Not to be rude, either, but it seems that your questions can best be answered by the DOE in the states that you might be interested in. They will ultimately be making the decision for you based upon their regulations, not on anecdotal info from other teachers.
     
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    Swansong,
    You are not being rude and actually asked a legit question. I could contact the states I am INTERESTED in, but I have nothing in mind right now. I just want to hear what the teacher went through . I realize the teacher may have more experience or may have applied years ago, but there might be one teacher that had a good experience with a state and then I would consider it.
     
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    Here is a suggestion. We went to findyourspot.com when we were considering a move. The website is pretty accurate narrowing down your choices of where you might like to live, based on quite a few categories. It really matched up our needs and wishes. You could give a website like that a try and see if you get some ideas of places you might like to live and work.
     
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    Your question is impossible to answer unless you ask "Hey, any teachers in FL move to STATE? How did transferring your certification/license go?"
     
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    Thanks, I will do that when I hear from someone in Florida or as time goes on.
     
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    Gee, the blog is about teachers , jobs and etc. and my title is"Does anyone know of a state that accepts Florida certification ." I would a person who would know the answer to this may have experienced it or know someone who has already gone through it. You can also call it a survey.:dizzy:
     
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    I think what you are asking is perfectly understandable...there have been other threads in the past asking what states are hiring, threads about reciprocity (current one here: http://forums.atozteacherstuff.com/showthread.php?p=1870405#post1870405 ), etc...The simple truth is there is no definitive answer...there tends to be little, if any, total reciprocity between states without some 'hoops' to jump...and even if you identified a state, there are no sure bets in terms of landing a job...your best bet would be to somehow narrow your search geographically to a few states you desire the most (which im sure you are trying to do with this thread), seek licensure in those states and start applying ....good luck!
     
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    History,
    I'm not from Florida so unfortunately I can't help you with your current question. The best advice I can give is to come up with a list of states you would consider moving to, and go from there. Hopefully you will find what you are looking for on this thread~~ Good Luck :)
     

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