Do you have a problem getting subs?

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  1. ecteach

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    Our school never has enough subs!! It's so annoying. You never know who's going to be in your classroom, and we've even had to combine classes before due to no subs. Does your school have this issue?
     
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    Yes, my last school did... but they also required a ridiculous amount of people to be out for PD at any given time. If they would have just reduced the number of PD sessions held on school days, it wouldn't have been such an issue. Even still, finding subs for paras was always difficult because the pay wasn't as good.
     
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    Yes!!!!! My district has a handful they like to use. I mean, there are others on the sub list. So, I'm often left wondering what's worse (to them) pulling aides from other classes to sub or getting one that isn't on their preferred list.
     
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    My school supports PD opportunities, committee work, coaching, and other opportunities that enrich teachers' skills yet require sub coverage. There is rarely an issue getting a sub.
     
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    Getting a sub? No. Getting a sub capable of reading/speaking English and following simple direction? Yes.
     
  7. mollydoll

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    Hah. We must be in the same district.
     
  8. Koriemo

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    We do have a hard time getting subs last minute. Teachers are asked to cover during their prep periods or classes are sent to study hall for the period.

    We can usually find subs with advance notice.
     
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    My last school did. It was a bad area and no one wanted to sub there. We would combine classes, some of which were already at 40 students, and teachers would have upwards of 50 kids in one room.

    My current school usually has subs available, and support staff will sub if needed.
     
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    I missed planning periods all the time last year due to a lack of a music or gym sub. And SpEd was often without a sub. I once vocalized my concern for not only my students but the legality and it just got me into hotter water than I was already in for vocalizing opinions (AKA pointing out the faults in the school/district).
     
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    Fortunately we do not have problems getting subs. Each school in the district usually has 2-3 regular subs, so it can be difficult for someone who has no connections to get a subbing job at all unless (like others have stated) it is for a PD day where multiple teachers will be missing at once.
     
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    We sometimes have a hard time getting subs when its a last minute posting. Most of our subs are retired teachers and they are pretty good, but we only have so many of them. We are a tiny, tiny district and a lot of people don't even realize we exist, haha. Therefore we don't get a lot of younger people trying to get teaching jobs subbing for us.
     
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    Our Teacher Subs are paid so little that we never have enough now, they have all gone to other towns for work...they only get $85.00 per day and Para Subs get $60.00!


    It got really bad last year both our Principal and Asst Principal had to stand in for teachers (4th and 5th grade) at the beginning of the day at one point until the Admin. office could find subs to cover..its really not a good situation.
     
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    Yes, absolutely.
     
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    We have a very hard time getting subs.
    Almost no one wants to work at our school (difficult kids), and those that do are often just not fit (difficult kids).

    We still have an SDC position open, it's been open for over a year, so that first needs to be filled with a sub, another position just got open after 2 weeks of school, we have a LTS with an emergency credential in there, so that's handled. Both of these positions are hard to fill with permanent teachers, there are almost no applicants. So first concern is to get the SDC room covered, and then when we have a teacher out we have a very hard time finding subs.

    What makes it worse is the new laws about how many hours a sub can work in a week (due to healthcare) and overall how many days they can be in the same classroom. Apparently, I didn't know this, a 30 day sub permit means you can only be in one classroom for that teacher 30 days out of the year, you can sub for another teacher for 30 days and so on. I used to think 30 days meant you can only be in the same classroom for 30 days at a time, but you can go back later.That's how I've seen it practiced for years. Maybe the laws changed, I don't know.
    But this makes it hard, the sub we have for the SDC room is wonderful, it's a man, which somehow works out better, and he's really great. He told me his 30 days were up so who knows if we'll see him again?
     
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    The past school I was at, we were responsible for getting our own subs and they were only a handful. Now trying to sub at the district that I live in, is like pulling teeth. The whole process is so barbaric. I am still waiting for a call back. Even though I have a teaching credential.
     
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    My school has a lot of trouble getting subs. I've had to cover probably close to 10 times already this year.
     
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    Both my previous school and my current school have trouble getting subs.
     
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    We rarely have difficulties, but once or twice a year, when there is a large training workshop or a religious holiday we may be down one or two subs.
     
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    In my home district, there is no trouble for the schools to get subs. In the district I work at, there's constantly a shortage of subs.
     
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    We have so many issues getting subs. It's frustrating.

    First off, teachers report to work at 7:15, which is the time subs have to be here, too. I think the time detours many people.

    I sub far too often. My principal and I hate having to combine classes or farm out kids to other rooms, so he normally has me take the class until we can find a sub.
     
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    I used to work in a district that had a huge issue with this and we would constantly be getting pulled off our preps to cover for each other. They paid us the sub rate but it wasn't worth the lost time and the stress, IMO.

    In my current district, we apparently are also in need of subs, but not to the point of pulling teachers out of their preps.

    It's no wonder that it's hard to find good subs with what they're paid and the fact that to be on-call, they have to start answering their phone at all hours and be ready to go in at a moment's notice. I wouldn't like it at all!

    I am so grateful to have a good sub who also speaks the language I teach (which is rare) -- it makes such a huge difference knowing I have someone good to count on for planned absences or even in case of emergency!
     
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    We have a lot of trouble getting subs. It's much easier for certified teachers to get full time teaching jobs than it used to be, so the pool of subs has shrunk considerably, I think. At the secondary level, they'll just have teachers cover during their preps (for pay, I believe). At the elementary level, we aren't so lucky. We end up farming out the kids. If a 3rd, 4th, or 5th grade teacher is absent and there's no sub, I'll get about 5-7 extra kids in my class. We are a small school, so there aren't a lot of classes to farm them out to. Our only admin is our P, so she doesn't fill in anymore because she is always needed elsewhere.
     
  24. Janedo5513

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    See our Admin would never even consider doing this, so I applaud you. When there was a real emergency that came up within our team, we would split the class among the other grades. There was four of us teaching the same grade so the class would be a little larger that day. Our team was amazing and we had everyone's back but again, this was only a true emergency and when we couldn't get a sub.
     
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    We have had some problems in the past (last year we had to cancel specialists probably a dozen, maybe a bit more over the course of the year), though the pay just got raised to a bit over $150, and then they also added a bonus on for those who work over a certain number of days (whether consecutive or non-consecutive). I worked it out, and if someone could sub every day of the year, which of course would be extremely hard, they'd make about $30k in the district.
     

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