Do you get prep time during the day?

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  1. peachacid

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    We do not. We are required to be at school by 7:30 and have to stay until 4:00 (if we are late or leave early, even by one minute, our pay can be docked). So the administration claims the times from 7:30 to 8:00 and 3:00 to 4:00 are our prep times. However, they schedule meetings during those times, they send kids up early to the classrooms, and teachers are feeling very stressed...

    Anyone else dealing with a similar situation? How do you cope?
     
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  3. MissKH81

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    That is extremely stressful. I have one day without a prep period and that is hard. I couldn't imagine NEVER having one. Does this mean that your school does not have any special classes? (i.e. computer, gym, music, art, etc) Or do you teach them? It sounds like the teachers need to band together and bring this up at a faculty meeting. Stressed out teachers do not make for a positive teaching/learning environment. It is also not good for your health.
     
  4. Hoot Owl

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    It's State Law that we get 40 minutes per day. We had a P that tried to pull a similiar scenerio on us several years ago, we called the union and had it stopped.
     
  5. texteacher

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    We don't have planning on Wednesdays because of early dismissal and that day nearly kills me. At our school, we have to do conduct everyday and check the student's homework thoroughly so I find it hard to do when I have no planning time. I think you should complain to your school about no planning time. You need one during the day to do important things (call parents, have students make up work...)
     
  6. Miss84

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    No plan time here. Unless if it's on the days where they have specials, and that is only 3 days out of the week.
     
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    We spend all day with our students... everyday. We teach everything. We have a half hour before school and a half hour after school, according to our start and end times. Every other Friday we have a staff meeting in the morning that cuts into our planning time. We have minimum days every Wednesday, but only once a month is for individual planning. The rest is for grade level collaboration and training.
     
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    Are you at a public school? If so, what does your contract say about the prep time? Document each day you don't get however much you're supposed to have and complain to your union rep. Unless your contract says meetings can count as prep time I'd think you'd be in a strong position.

    I have a full 80 minute block each day for prep and my hours are 7:15 to 3:00.
     
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    No planning time here.
     
  10. lemonhead

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    We get time during our specials but it gets eaten up. We have our grade level team meeting one day, district curriculum rep meeting another day, duty in the resource lab, leaving two days.

    Still I'll take that compared to nothing!
     
  11. Miss J. Pre-K

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    I have pre-k kids from 7:30-3:10 without a break. No specials for them. They do take a nap, but really, if a kid isn't being quiet, that prep time is taken up trying to occupy the kid. I am allowed to be out of the room during naptime, but not at any other time, and they want my "break" to be 10 minutes or less. Honestly, I do some prep work while they are doing centers, which I know is not the best thing to do.

    The other grades have specials for 30 minutes 4 or 5 days a week which is their prep time. Grade level and other meetings are supposed to be scheduled before or after school, but I'm definitely planning on scheduling as many parent conferences as I can during naptime. I come in early and stay late enough as it is.

    Some of us aren't allowed unions or have prep time/lunchs written into our contracts.
     
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    I always find it interesting that elementary teachers are the ones with the least amount of IN school time planning.
     
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    Sam, I could not agrree more. We plan the most and have the least amt. of time!!
    I have 40 min. a day...our contract does not allow mandated meetings during that time!
     
  14. janlee

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    Prep time each and every day. If I have a half day I still get 20 minutes of prep time. My principal tried to schedule RTI meetings during my common prep time with my two colleagues and a big kabosh was put on that. They can't even schedule CSE meetings during my prep or lunch. Thank you union.
     
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    This almost exactly! Except my left over two days are spent in team planning or dealing with parent issues. For example, today I spent 40 minutes making phone calls, tracking down new numbers, call the bus company and waiting for return calls so I would know how to get two of my students home! One moved with out telling us until 2:30 today and the other just up and told me "I go home on the bus today" Umm...doesn't work that way, I need a note.

    Our grade level meeting is with the principal one day and then with an intervention specialist another. Then a third day I compare data with ESL or Title teachers.
     
  16. dizzykates

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    Oh and we always have meetings after school twice a week. We also have duty once a week before school.

    The prep time I got as a secondary teacher was wonderful! I wish I still have it. 90 minutes a day, every day, with no meetings during that time. HEAVEN! Plus I only taught 3 preps (6 classes total). I would love to do that again sometime!
     
  17. czacza

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    1/2 hour 8am-8:30 Monday-Thursday (team meetings once a week during one morning)

    1 hour duty free lunch daily

    25-40 minutes 'prep' (kids at specials) daily.
     
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    50 minutes 4 days a week. 40 minutes duty free lunch. We can walk in with the kids in the mornings but have to stay 15 minutes after they leave, I gues that is considered prep time.
     
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    Of Course!

    I cannot believe that some of you do not. That is a much deserved time for teachers AND it's a time to really develop strategies to help our students.
     
  20. Mrs N

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    Wow. I didn't know no-prep was so widespread. My day is 8:30-4:30. We get a duty free lunch for 35 minutes and 1 hour of prep daily. The only reason it would be different is if we have an assembly and then our time is shortened but not too much. My team has a weekly meeting during prep and once a month we meet with admin during prep. I feel so bad for you! Do you want me to plan or cut something out for you during my prep?
     
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    Elementary gets 3 45 min blocks/ week when kids are at specials.
     
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    I get 1/2 an hour during the day while my students are at specials. They also have 2 recess breaks, and when I am not on duty I have that time as well. One day a week I get an extra 1/2 an hour prep when they have an extra special.
     
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    By all accounts I have an over-abundance of prep time but somehow I still get swamped with so many other things that come up. I get 13 minutes between my first class and my second. Time enough to iron out any kinks I found first thing and maybe get a drink or run paperwork to the front. I get 10:10 until 11:05 as my appointed 55 minutes for the day when I prep as much materials as I'll need for the rest of the day and the next morning plus lesson plans and then 10 minutes for my own lunch. I get another 10 minutes due to a schedule difference between upper and lower elementary as the lower elementary goes to lunch at 12 but leave my room at 5 until. Then another 22 minutes between my next to last class and my last class which allows me some clean up and redistribution of materials for a different lesson. All in all, that's something like a 100 minutes a day. Somehow, it's still not enough.
     
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    Teacher day is 8:30-4:00. Students present from 9:00-3:38. 45 minutes planning daily. 45 minute duty-free lunch. Before and after school is voluntary and most specials teachers/paras do duty because they are not dismissing their class. Every 3rd Weds. we also have a double planning period of 90 minutes to work on PLC model and RtI. it's a common planning period with all folks who work with K-1, 2-3, and 4-5. So far that's been a bunch of meetings. One one-hour staff meeting every other week before school with firm beginning and end times. Guess I've got it pretty good!
     
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    I get preps... but I don't like how they work. Perhaps I should count myself lucky considering the fact that I have preps at all...

    Here's how my schedule works out.

    Monday - 3 preps + recess + lunch
    Tuesday - 2 preps + recess + lunch
    Wednesday - Lunch
    Thursday - 1 prep + recess
    Friday - recess + lunch (bus duty after school)

    The two days I have no prep, I also have duty. It kills me.

    Oh, and add to that the fact that I had a PD day today which took away my triple prep day!!!
     
  26. 49erteacher

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    I have kids from 8:15 to 3, plus a handful of kids for "tutoring" from 3 - 4. On Monday and Wednesday, I get a 30 minute lunch and 2 hours of prep. On Tueday and Thursday, I get a 30 minute lunch with 60 minutes of prep. On Friday, there is no lunch and no prep, but the kids are released at 12:45.

    It is really hard having kids around until 4 most days, but there is a good amount of prep time toward the end of the day.
     
  27. DrivingPigeon

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    Yikes...That is horrible. :(

    I have:
    Monday: 30 minutes + lunch/recess + recess
    Tuesday: 30 minutes + lunch/recess + recess
    Wednesday: 30-60 minutes + lunch/recess + recess
    Thursday: 60 minutes + lunch/recess + recess
    Friday: 75 minutes + lunch/recess + recess

    I also have before and after school unless I have scheduled meetings.
     
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    Resource room teacher I observe has a 40 minute lunch, 60 minutes of prep (15 in morning, 45 for the last period of the day)
     
  29. newoldteacher

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    WOW!! Do you guys know how fortunate you are? EVERY Day I must eat (if you can call it that) among the children. Title I school. Duty-free lunch?? Ha!! That NEVER happens. On top of that, our silly P has installed 2 clacker-trackers (those insane traffic lights) on each side of the lunchroom. IF one goes to red, then there's $Y%*Y) to pay. These devices were meant for classroom use (though I'd NEVER use one). You can imagine the echoing that goes on in a lunchroom with approx. 100+ kids in it at a time. The lights are always going to red. INSANE....

    Oh, sorry...this post was about planning periods. Again, do many of you realize how FORTUNATE you are?? I have 25 min. 4 days a week. One day of week, that's taken up by grade-level/data meetings. My planning is always done on my own time...or it would never get done. I'd LOVE to have even 45 uninterrupted minutes per day....
     
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    to the previous post i teach at a school-wide title I and our contract gives us a duty-free lunch :)

    our "teacher" day is 745-315, kids arrive at 745 and leave by 3

    otherwise 2 days out of our 6-day cycle i only have 45 mins plus lunch and the other 3 days i have 60 min plus lunch, and 1 day a cylce i'm super lucky with 105 mins plus lunch
     
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    I don't understand the vast differences.
     
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    we're a school wide title 1 school (although I don't see that the change as affected anything for us)

    I get 1 50 min. plan period/day
    1 20 min. duty free lunch

    contract hours are 8:30-4:00
    student hours are 9:05-3:45

    Mon:1- 50 min. prep
    1-20 min. duty free lunch

    Tue Tutoring at 8:00
    1- 50 min. prep
    1-20 min. duty free lunch

    Wed Grade Level Collab 8:00
    Grade Level Collab during prep
    1-20 min. duty free lunch
    rotate recess duty 20 min

    Thur
    District Technology Collab during prep
    1-20 min. duty free lunch
    recess duty 20 min

    Fri
    AdministrationCollab during prep
    1-20 min. duty free lunch
    recess duty 20 min x 2
     
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    I get 220 minutes per week. I'm lucky!
     

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