Do you get paid for open house?

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  1. FourSquare

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    Chicago Public Schools/CTU has said it is likely everyone will be back in school Monday. In an effort to "get back to normal" for families, many schools have just pushed everything from this week to next week, including open house. Open house schedules are on a school by school basis decided by the principal. However, we are not paid for it. Because of this, many principals make open house during the day where families can come observe class and interact for one period at the end of school.

    Our principal has decided that open house will be in the evening next week. Some staff members feel this is wrong and that we should decide not to go as a group. It is more "mandated" work time outside of contract hours that we are unpaid for...exactly one of the issues we have been striking over for a week.

    I'm curious, what are you thoughts? We have to decide as a group what we're going to do.
     
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  3. smalltowngal

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    We're not paid extra for Open House...that would fall under the 'other duties as assigned' that's in our contract.
     
  4. Missy

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    We are not paid for Open House or Curriculum Night. Virtually all elementary teachers still show up, but more than a few MS and HS teachers pass. We intend to bring it up at our next negotiations.
     
  5. 2ndTimeAround

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    same here
     
  6. Shanoo

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    We aren't paid for Open House, the two evening Parent-Teacher conference night or the Orientation evening.
     
  7. czacza

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    In my contract I'm obligated to Back to School night and two evening conference dates, one in the fall and one in the spring. I'm not paid 'extra', it's part of my contracted responsibilities.
     
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    We are not paid for Open House, parent teacher conference, and 1-2 days in the summer.
     
  9. chebrutta

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    Our Open House is during the contract day, so yes, I am paid.
     
  10. MissScrimmage

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    That's how it is for us as well.
     
  11. MrsC

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    We are not paid for our Meet the Teacher night; it isn't mandatory that we attend, although virtually all do. The only evening event we are obligated to attend is one evening of parent/teacher conferences in late November.
     
  12. giraffe326

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    Since we are salaried, we can be required to work whenever.
     
  13. janlee

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    My contract states that I am to attend up to 6 night activities. These include Open House, fall and spring conferences, and usually one concert.
     
  14. Rabbitt

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    DITTO
     
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    Open House is just part of our contractual duties, so it is included in our regular salary. We are not allowed to miss it unless we get approval from the principal.
     
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    Nope; not paid. It is mandatory. In my case, it also falls on a day I don't even work.

    It is only one evening though and it's a good cause, so I'm not going to complain about it. Anyway, we don't get paid for parent conferences or anything either (those are invariably after contract hours).
     
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    :yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat::spam::yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat:
    This is true for me too. Maybe doing this would help to set a positive tone for the year with your kids? :):). I know you have def issues... So do what you feel is right.
     
  18. Caesar753

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    Our contract stipulates that we need to be at school after hours on two dates to be determined by the school administrator. At my school, that means Open House and Awards Night. We don't get any extra for those days because they're already built into our contract/salary.
     
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    We are not paid. It is considered an "extra contractual duty" like many of the others here.
     
  20. Caesar753

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    I'm salaried too, but my contract lays out very defined terms about how many hours and minutes we work per day, along with how many days per year. Does yours not have set contract hours?
     
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    Similar to others it's part of our "extra duties." Our contact says we can be asked to work up to 25 extra hours outside our contracted day which can include two evening events. So things like after school faculty meetings, parent conferences held after school, various after hours professional development, and open house all fall into this 25 hours.
     
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    Me too.

    I've never even worried about the fact that it is after school. It's just part of the job.

    If I was expected to attend after hour events once or more a week, then I would balk but I only have to do three or four evening events a year.
     
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    Many people here have said that late hours are considered part of their extra duties. Does anyone's contract expressly limit the number of hours/days that a teacher can be required to stay late without additional compensation?

    I'm so surprised reading all these responses here, honestly. It seems to me like there's a huge potential for administrators to abuse teachers. What's the point of having daily contract hours (e.g., 8 AM to 3 PM) if the principal can just decide that you have to work late whenever he wants you to? I don't think it's fair to say that working late is "just part of the job". My job requires me to be at school from 7 AM until 2:11 PM. I didn't agree to come in at 3 AM or work until 9 PM when I accepted the offer to work here.
     
  24. Curiouscat

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    We have comp days for working open house and conference nights. One day of comp is the day before Thanksgiving and the other day is attached to spring break.

    Of course, most of us put in more time than required since conferences always start early and run late. You can't hold 28-30 conferences in 24 time slots!

    Open House is the held the night of our first work day which is filled with meetings which leaves us with no time to work in our rooms. so, most of us spend time prior to that day in order to prep our rooms. We would probably spend the extra time anyway, but it seems kind of crappy for our admin to do this to us. They know we want our rooms to look nice. Why would they put us in the position of feeling pressured/forced into doing it? I don't know if pressured or forced is the word I am looking for but hopefully someone knows what I mean. I am tired and need to go to bed.:)
     
  25. JustMe

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    We have after school open houses. Unpaid.
     
  26. JustMe

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    I absolutely agree. To answer your question, there is nothing at all about these things in my contract. It's just expected.
     
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    Our administrators have never abused this part of our contract. The only thing that I have a problem with is that we (the teachers) are now required to work one football game and one volleyball gate per season as part of that 'extra assigned duties'. These jobs used to be done by aides who of course got paid for their hours. When the budget crunch hit, having teachers do it was the district's way to save money. But it's only one football game and one volleyball game and I know it could be a lot worse.
     
  28. giraffe326

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    We don't really have contracts in NC. I tried to scan it once, but I couldn't get it to post. If fits on one page.
    Our hours are to be set by our P. They can change at any time, and we can be held at anytime. Last week, I was required to call my new boss at my new PT job (it was my first week), and tell her I could not work my scheduled shift on Saturday. My P was requiring me to attend a workshop. On a Saturday. With 5 days notice.
    (To make it worse- I could have taught it and more effectively, too!)

    I WISH I was making this up.
     
  29. JustMe

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    I have a major problem with this. Mainly because it was thrown on you all to save money, obviously. So it's not just part of the school culture where they want teachers to bond with students and all that.
     
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    Exactly! and like I said, I don't mind doing it especially since it's only one time....but our aides are not paid well as it is, and this was extra money they could make and that was taken away from them. And it's not like it cost an arm and a leg to pay them for a few hours of work.
     
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    stg- volleyball? Is it really big in your area? I'm confused! I get football. I could understand basketball, baseball, soccer, track. But volleyball? *scratches head*

    And while it is stupid that you are required to do it, at least you would have notice :tired:
     
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    Orientation is late afternoon/early evening, no extra pay. We are also expected to be at the Black History Program, Spring Concert & Trip Around the World. As a Kindergarten teacher we also do a promotion ceremony at night.

    So, it's only 4 or 5 nights. Our programs usually start at 6p.m. & we are done by 7 p.m.

    We are also encouraged to go to 1 or maybe it's 2 PTO meetings per year. Last year, if you went to PTO you could wear jeans that Friday.

    Conferences are from 12-6, we are not expected to be at work until 11 a.m.
     
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    Yep, volleyball games. And we do get to choose which games we work so no dates are forced on us.
     
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    Looking at my schedule, by the end of September, I will have been required to work:
    - Open House (Meet the Teacher) until 7:30 PM (all teachers)
    - Saturday workshop 8-1 (myself and 1 other teacher)
    - Saturday workshop 10-3 (just me)
    - Saturday workshop 7:30-12:30 (just me again)
    - District grade level meeting until 5 PM (all teachers)
    - Leadership Meeting until 5 PM (myself, my P, and 2 other teachers)
    - Open House (Back-to-School- show off artifacts plus book fair) until 6:30PM (all teachers)
     
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    I sign an annual contract.

    Included in that are Parent Orientation nights-- this year I have to be at 3 of our 4. I just got home at about 10:30 from tonight's. Also included are 4 Parent Teacher Student meeting nights. And 3 or 4 Saturday Open Houses and I forget just what else.
     
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    I've never heard of getting paid for open house. However, we do get "comp time" for parent teacher conferences, which is a total of 2 extra days work per year (8 hours in the fall and 8 hours in the spring at night for conferences). We get monday and tuesday of thanksgiving week off as our "comp time" for conferences so it's really nice. My last district technically gave us the comp time, but it was pretty fishy. They said that the Wed. before thanksgiving was one of our comp days. We all found it hard to believe that we would have had school that wed. anyway...they were pretty much double dipping with thanksgiving break and the comp day.
     
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    Mine have always been in the evening, and I've never been paid for it. I'm not sure if it's in my contract or not. It's expected for us to be there, so I go. It's also good to meet the parents of all my students and try to start off the year with a good relationship.
     
  38. FourSquare

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    Interesting. Thanks!

    We will decide as a staff. The overwhelming response so far has been negative, but people might also be afraid to speak up.

    Frankly I think we should just go in for the sake of our families. It's not the hill I want to die on. I'll fight the good fight if I have to though!
     
  39. AlwaysAttend

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    No, part of the job
     
  40. silverspoon65

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    Your contract should specifically address this. Mine specifically discusses open house, dept and faculty meetings, and parent conferences as well as the hours of the work day. It doesn't matter if you are salaried - that doesn't mean they can just make you work whenever they want.

    If you aren't sure, talk to your building rep or local president or however that works for you guys.
     
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    Our back to school night is mandatory, and falls under "other duties as assigned" in our contracts. I love it, and don't mind. Usually the PTA or someone feeds us, and it's nice to meet all the parents. We have a few other events that are mandatory, but I can't think of them now. I pretty much go to whatever.
     

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